Skip to comments.US 'eavesdropped on Vatican in run-up to conclave'
Posted on 10/30/2013 10:00:03 AM PDT by onyxEdited on 10/30/2013 10:10:14 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Rome US secret services allegedly eavesdropped on cardinals before the conclave in March to elect a new pope, Italian weekly magazine Panorama claimed Wednesday.
"The National Security Agency wiretapped the pope," the magazine said, accusing the United States of listening in to telephone calls to and from the Vatican, including the accommodation housing cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio before he was elected Pope Francis.
The allegations follow a report on surveillance website Cryptome which said the United States intercepted 46 million telephone calls in Italy in December 2012 and early January 2013.
Among those, "there are apparently also calls from and to the Vatican," Panorama said.
"It is feared that the great American ear continued to tap prelates' conversations up to the eve of the conclave," it said, adding that there were "suspicions that the conversations of the future pope may have been monitored".
I bet they eaves drop on the makers of popular TV shows to find out who’s going to die.
Oh, well this makes sense because tacking guys who wear silk robes and red slippers IS A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY!!!!!!!!
If you recall, there was a collection of all electronic devices, prior to the conclave.
They would have to have held a glass to the door.....
Then again the pope is also a head of state (the vatican) and his cardinals are also vatican government representatives.
Did they have a “bug” in the Sistine Chapel?
Marxist Muslim, all the way.
lasers on windows.
Piece of cake. I saw Tom Cruise do it.
Well, we do have to track all terrorists don’t we?
Spy on the Pope... Why not?
The U.S. Government and it’s spy agencies have no problem spying on law abiding American citizens, bugging their cell phones, hacking their land lines, monitoring their emails, seizing their records, targeting specific individuals, groups and bugging the phones of our allies?
Spy on the Pope... Why not?
A laser beam aimed a wind pane would pick up the vibrations of the glass from far away...................
Just a thought. It brings new meaning to the new pope not wanting to change his residence.
Did any of the eavesdroppers place bets in the London book on who the Pope would be? Would it be insider trading if they did?
Ping for later.
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I don’t pretend to understand how all these agencies are connected, but I suspect there are military/ex-military with information on a lot of these issues. Is it possible that the house of cards is coming down b/c of Obama’s poor treatment of our military leaders, as well as the current active duty and vets?
Electronic devices may have been collected from the participating Cardinals. No way others seeking to intercept communication would be affected. It’s like banning guns; only the law abiding observe the ban.
Obama was probably in a pool on who would be the new Pope.
ducking and covering in place now
Illegally spying on law abiding citizens is just as concerning.
Why would U.S. spy agencies wiretap and spy on law abiding individual U.S. citizens, groups and or the pope or our allies?
There would be only 1 reason to engage in these activities. The evil motives are clear. Total complete control and total power.
Does Dennis Prager care?
Really, what did they hope to learn from the Cardinals? The whole thing's so strange, as a Catholic, I can't even be angry at them. In fact, I'm beginning to feel sorry for the paranoid freaks.
That was funny!
The question is, how can the bad guys/gals in our gov't outnumber the good guys? The NSA is a large Agency yet they cover for Obama. Why?
Also, Snowden.. Is he an agent of Team Barry? Is Snowden the Iranian born Valerie Jarrett's plot for stopping America from spying on foreign interests? People need to remember that Obama and his ilk are in office for one purpose, and that is to KILL America dead.
Like I said many times about Obama - He has two agendas:
1. Destroy the US from within.
2. Empower and spread radical Islam.
So is this yet another attempt at #2? Much like Muzzies who burn down churches and kill Christians?
As an old friend of mine says in moments of extreme frustration, “It’s enough to p*ss off the Pope”.
He didn’t know....
And now for something completely different.
Wouldn't surprise me a bit.
“Robes”. Dead giveaway that the speaker knows nothing about the Catholic Church and is probably hostile.
With a president hard at work driving a wedge between American Catholics and their bishops, it shouldn’t be that hard to see why that president would like to know what the pope’s talking about.
Sistine Chappel is an inner room and windows are not typical panes.
No Land Lines in there either.
I guess they’ll say it is a nation state, so no different from any other. Or maybe they won’t say anything, since no one in Congress will stop them except for Rand Paul, who is only one man.
Yeah, no surprise here. NSA guys just trying to find the best porn. I guess they don’t have to pay for their 900 number dial-ups.? Wait for it. How many pedophiles are hiding out at NSA? Maybe we can spot them by their brown shirts? If they have a Uni it probly looks a lot like the National Park Service sliders. Lots of pockets, epaulets, ribbons, good-guy buttons, creases-—but baggy pants.
US secret services allegedly eavesdropped on cardinals before the conclave in March to elect a new pope, Italian weekly magazine Panorama claimed Wednesday.
-—glass to the door. I bet our geniuses can read smoke signals too. And those Swiss guards wear those sharp looking leotards-—kind of strikes fear-——
Hey I thought the Lib Progressive Control Freak Statists believed in “Sepration of Church and Sate” when it comes to everything else, I guess it doesn’t include listening devices unless the “church” in question is a Mosque then it is sacred hallowed ground...
Spy on the Vatican... SURE
Spy on a know terror Mosque.... That be Raciss