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Detroit Chief of Police Running from Crime. Literally!
Libertarian Republic ^ | 10/30/13

Posted on 10/30/2013 10:01:54 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Chief of Police isn’t a certified officer in Michigan

DETROIT, MI - When faced with an attempted carjacking of his unmarked squad car, Detroit Police Chief James Craig just drove away. As it turns out, there isn’t much that the police chief could have done. Why? The chief of police is not a certified police officer in the state of Michigan.

Relaying his story to a crowd of about 50 people at a community meeting about Detroit’s carjacking problem, Mr. Craig explained that he “accelerated out of harm’s way,” rather than arresting the suspect.

Because Mr. Craig is not certified as a police officer, he does not posses the same authority to detain suspects based on reasonable suspicion and make arrests based on probable cause. Therefore, he is limited to making citizens arrests, which, under Michigan law, require a felony to have been committed.

According to the Michigan Commission on Law Enforcement Standards, Mr. Craig was sent paperwork for obtaining the certification in July, when his tenure began, but has thus far failed to return it.

This isn’t the first time Mr. Craig ran into troubles with obtaining state certification. At his previous post as chief of police in Cincinnati, Mr. Craig made a request to be waived from taking the state officer certification tests. Although he was granted a waiver from the vast majority of the training requirements, Mr. Craig was not exempt from requirements relating specifically to Ohio law.

Rather than fulfilling these requirements, Mr. Craig filed a lawsuit arguing that the test was unfair to out-of-state chief candidates and that the amount of time he would have to devote to preparation would be better spent elsewhere. Ultimately, he dropped the lawsuit after accepting the position in Detroit.

As of last week, there have been 582 carjackings in Detroit this year.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: carjackings; detroit; police
Affirmative action in action. What happens when equality of results is the primary criteria.
1 posted on 10/30/2013 10:01:55 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa
Therefore, he is limited to making citizens arrests, which, under Michigan law, require a felony to have been committed.

Carjackings are not felonies?

2 posted on 10/30/2013 10:09:21 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: Impala64ssa

Karma! Reap it, Progressives.


3 posted on 10/30/2013 10:11:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: Impala64ssa

>> Affirmative action in action.

It’s everywhere! It’s everywhere!

In the ‘90s in North Miami, Florida the city council decided that black police officers didn’t have to swim to be hired, since in the ‘60s there was no place for them to learn it. Guess the “negro” beach on Dodge island and the swimming pools in Liberty City didn’t count.


4 posted on 10/30/2013 10:14:13 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Third world countries have higher standards.


5 posted on 10/30/2013 10:14:54 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: Impala64ssa
So rather than do what is necessary to fulfill the requirements of the job. (trust me, I hate paperwork as much or more than the next guy) ... This guy's answer is to blow off paperwork and/or get a lawyer to file a lawsuit trying to get out of even more.

After the Ohio lawsuit, why did Detroit even consider this guy? Hello, anyone awake in there? You all didn't see this as a huge red flag?

6 posted on 10/30/2013 10:15:31 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Impala64ssa

“Affirmative action in action.”

No kidding! And there I thought that Black “Educators” were the nation’s highest paid “migrant workers.” Take a look at this guy’s resume:

http://www.detroitmi.gov/Portals/0/docs/police/COP%20BIO.pdf

Maybe when he’s through looting Detroit, he can move down to Carmel-by-the-Sea, or Beverly Hills. Reminds me of Chief Moose, from Maryland, or was it Delaware?


7 posted on 10/30/2013 10:17:22 PM PDT by vette6387
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i call bull on this story...he made up this story to try and prove that anyone can be a victim of carjackings, to try and ease the “situation” in Detroit. They showed the unmarked car he was driving...all black crown victoria. I live in Detroit, and trust me, the cops that are in those cars...are not to messed with. EVERYBODY in Detroit know that. They are a plainclothes, elite unit,..badasses.


8 posted on 10/30/2013 10:19:00 PM PDT by basalt
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To: umgud

I guess in Detroit its like jaywalking or something.

lol


9 posted on 10/30/2013 10:35:22 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: QBFimi
Guess the “negro” beach on Dodge island and the swimming pools in Liberty City didn’t count
Interesting, I got an old Gulf road map of Florida from around 1936 showing Virginia Beach near Biscayne Bay as "colored".
10 posted on 10/30/2013 10:38:22 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: basalt
They showed the unmarked car he was driving...all black crown victoria.
No matter where I'm driving, whenever I see a Crown Vic in my rearview, unmarked or otherwise, my first reaction is to check my speed.
11 posted on 10/30/2013 10:41:01 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: Impala64ssa

In Russia, when I see a cop car, I also slow down. But the funny this is, it doesn’t matter!

The cops who are driving don’t care about other drivers - it’s not their responsibility. The police and traffic police have two different responsibilities.

It’s the guys standing on the side of the road (holding the black and white sticks) that drivers have to worry about.


12 posted on 10/30/2013 11:00:43 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

How do they stop you?


13 posted on 10/30/2013 11:04:21 PM PDT by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Impala64ssa
The Chief
(In uniform on one of his previous jobs.
Can't quite tell if it was Portland, LAPD, Detroit or Cincinnati.)

He got himself a really spiffy
across he chest holster belt
and at least two spare mags
for shootin' the Bad Guys.



He also has a resume that begs the question -
Why could he not pass state officer qualification tests?


14 posted on 10/30/2013 11:06:15 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: null and void

They stand out in the street and wave the stick. People usually obey.

There are usually two of them. One is on the street, the other is sitting in the car, writing up the violators.

If you drive by the cop and don’t stop, I imagine that the second cop in the car can drive after you. (In all my years here, I’ve only seen it happen once!)


15 posted on 10/30/2013 11:11:53 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: null and void
How do they stop you?

In the same way as they do in the USA, I guess. On I-5, for example, CHP officers sometimes hide behind overpasses, or in bushes on the center divider. It's easier on them (no need to drive,) and they observe more cars per hour, and it saves fuel, and the officer can relax until the radar starts beeping.

In such cases the officers have their own car prepositioned to give a chase, and as they run for their car they report the incident on the radio for units further down the road to roll out the welcoming mat. An experienced driver who knows all the exits in the area can, perhaps, leave the freeway in time. But those also know where speed traps are. Besides, the officer who chases you is not more than 10-15 seconds behind (that is only 1/4 of a mile!) and his car is faster.

16 posted on 10/30/2013 11:17:58 PM PDT by Greysard
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To: Impala64ssa
Craig was in Cincinnati long enough to change the uniforms.

Cincinnati police used to be unmistakable in white shirts and white hats. They always looked crisp and in charge. Now they are wearing some sort of dark shirt and they don't have to wear the hats any longer. They look sloppy.

Craig came here from Portland and stayed just long enough to fluff up his resume.
17 posted on 10/30/2013 11:23:32 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: shibumi

That pic looks like the caudillo of a very small banana republic.


18 posted on 10/30/2013 11:49:48 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Argus
That pic looks like the caudillo of a very small banana republic. Right,but specifically, what is the difference between Detroit and a banana republic?
19 posted on 10/31/2013 4:35:41 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Impala64ssa

Actually he’s been a very solid police chief. He’s taken actions that have long needed to be taken like stripping the mayor’s security from 20 officers to 6. Fining officers for wasting resources (Showing up for simple investigations by the dozen) He’s even trying to criminally charge 911 dispatchers for lying to callers. He’s encouraged people to take care of their own security and even arm themselves if need be. And one that should send the whiney libertarians off the rails, he’s restarted the stop and frisk policy ended by Coleman Young.

I remember this story when it happened and despite the super cops of FR, he did all he could do which was exactly what most people would do 9 times out of 10. Unless you have a gun in hand and ready, you’re not going to do much when someone appears in your window with a gun.


20 posted on 10/31/2013 5:11:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
People watch too many cop shows. Lots of complaining and zero solutions as usual.

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Michigan legislative action thread
21 posted on 10/31/2013 5:14:34 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: shibumi
His uniform looks too big.


22 posted on 10/31/2013 5:28:33 AM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Impala64ssa
Too Democrats qualifications for a position are a joke; only conservatives have to worry about such things. Being a good Democrat is the first qualification. Next being anything but a White male (unless it is a REAL job that actually requires someone who can handle the position). The Craigs of the world are what you get from Democrats. Minority seals most likely sat and clapped proudly because they DON'T have to be oppressed by a White Police Chief - it doesn't lower crime but it makes them sooo proud!
23 posted on 10/31/2013 5:45:33 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: basalt
"... the cops that are in those cars...are not to messed with."

Are they still called "the big four" - two harness cops in front and two dicks in back, all big muthas?

24 posted on 10/31/2013 6:06:06 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of 0bama’s America)
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To: shove_it

no, they broke up the “Big Four” in the early 80’s..now they are 2 man cars..but my god, every one of em are gigantic.


25 posted on 10/31/2013 7:59:05 AM PDT by basalt
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To: Lion Den Dan
what is the difference between Detroit and a banana republic?

They don't grow bananas in detroit........

26 posted on 10/31/2013 8:48:39 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Make sure you have removed the kleenex from your pockets before doing laundry)
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To: Impala64ssa

>> “negro” beach on Dodge island

Yup, you’re absolutely correct - it’s the “colored” beach on Virginia Key. Dodge Island is the man-made one to the northwest of Virginia Key.


27 posted on 10/31/2013 9:30:02 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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