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To: markomalley

Remind me. When did Turkey acquire nuclear and thermonuclear weapons in substantial quantities? What’s that you say, they have neither? Well then, I think I’d leave a nation-state with both alone, wouldn’t you? Not to mention a secret intelligence service that’s considered the best in the world.


3 posted on 10/31/2013 3:52:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There’s a spiritual dimension behind clashes of Israel and Islamic countries.

I don’t think Turkey has any great aspirations at this point. It perhaps only wants the creds of yes, it messed around with Israel and lived to tell the tale.

Which is pretty cowardly because Israel, while it can put the hammer down if it wants, usually only exercises local defense.

The God of Israel is the same God that sent His Son for Christians and all who will ultimately accept (including old covenant saints).


4 posted on 10/31/2013 4:01:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Well then, I think I’d leave a nation-state with both alone, wouldn’t you? “

We are at a bizarre moment in history where nuclear weapons don’t matter until they do. For sixty-some odd years the United States has guaranteed global peace by threatening annihilation to any nation that used the weapons we’d have to use to annihilate them. This was never a spoken threat, but implied. Under our present president, I’d say the only nation on Earth this threat still applies to is Israel.

Seriously, if Israel used nuclear weapons it would become the most isolated chunk of land on the planet. Once used the world’s calculus will change in unexpected and unpredictable ways. As one Israeli official publically proclaimed, “Israel will not be the first to use nuclear weapons.” Then, sotto voce he added, “we won’t be the second, either.”

Israel is unlikely to use nuclear weapons unless they state is facing immanent destruction. There will be a whole lot of deaths and maybe lost wars before that happens.


5 posted on 10/31/2013 4:02:27 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
When did Turkey acquire nuclear and thermonuclear weapons in substantial quantities? What’s that you say, they have neither?

Are the weapons at Murted, Balikesir, and Incirlik gone? (Seriously, I don't know...)

There used to be nukes at those three locations (plus Eskisehir...which I know is now gone) that were under control of the US until released by NATO to Turkey...I don't know if they were ever withdrawn.

(And, btw, for those who say "loose lips" -- I checked to make sure the information was already publicly available before posting it)

6 posted on 10/31/2013 4:04:10 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a frequent visitor to Turkey for a last 20 years and it starts to smell 1975 Tehran all over the place.
Older people are open minded and secular but the ‘youtes’ are full of crap. 35+ women are mostly “mom’s” blue jeans etc, 15 something are in their full “ninja” pajama outfit. Younger guys are bearded and full of crap. Their president is actively screwing their national economy and voila it is US, Russia (major trading partners) and of course the “jooooos” to blame.


18 posted on 10/31/2013 5:48:41 AM PDT by cunning_fish
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