Skip to comments.Obamacare May Be Beyond Salvaging
Posted on 10/31/2013 6:44:56 AM PDT by Kaslin
Apparently, President Barack Obama was fibbing when he said in 2009 that under his Affordable Care Act, "if you like your health care plan, you'll be able to keep your health care plan, period." On Wednesday, Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler rated that pledge as a four-Pinocchio whopper.
On Monday, Peter Lee, the executive director of Covered California, the Golden State's Obamacare exchange, informed the San Francisco Chronicle's editorial board that 800,000 to 900,000 Californians will lose their individual health care plans at the end of the year. Nationally, as many as half of the millions of consumers with private plans will lose their coverage and have to buy an Obamacare plan. Asked about Obama's promise, Lee responded that it was "not well-stated" and "may have been an inarticulate way of describing what the realities are."
Lee argues that Covered California policies are better than today's private plans. Exchange policies offer no lifetime cap on benefits, preventive care with no copayments, and no refusal for pre-existing conditions. Quoth Lee, consumers "can shop as they never did before."
Likewise, White House spokesman Jay Carney charged that the current individual health care market is "the Wild West" with "substandard" care. The suggestion is that those who are about to be thrown off their health plans should be grateful.
James Stokes of Novato, Calif., isn't a happy shopper. An Obama voter, he wrote to me that his family premiums will more than double if he buys under Covered California. "Double premiums for the same service as before," Stokes wrote. "Am I missing something here?"
Robert Laszewski, a Virginia insurance industry consultant, won't be sending the White House a thank-you note. Blue Cross canceled his "Cadillac" policy. "Never had a procedure for either my wife or myself turned down," he blogged. "Wellness benefits are without a deductible. It covers mental health, drugs, maternity, anything I can think of."
If he buys on the exchange, Laszewski found, he'll have to pay a 66 percent higher premium for reduced benefits.
House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Fred Upton has drafted a "Keep Your Health Plan Act" to save people such as Stokes and Laszewski.
I asked Laszewski what he thought of the Upton bill. "This makes sense, given all of the Obamacare government delays," he replied. He recognizes the downsides: "Will the insurance companies be expected to take all of the sick people with no expectation they will get the healthy people to pay the bills? Will the sick be able to sign up at will while the healthy sit it out?"
"From a political standpoint, it looks like a reasonable compromise," reasoned Joshua Archambault, health policy director for the Pioneer Institute. "From a policy standpoint, it could put the insurers in a very tough spot." Insurers based their new premiums on the expectation that they'd enroll healthy consumers who cannot keep their old plans.
"If we can get a delay, we should delay it," argues Lanhee Chen, a Hoover Institution fellow and former policy adviser to Mitt Romney.
Chen can think of modest fixes -- such as adjusting subsidies to reflect the cost of living -- but sees dicey politics for Republicans who suggest them: "It's just politically so hard because then you get accused of being sympathetic to the law."
Because Obamacare is going to start Jan. 1, I'd like to see a Republicans-to-the-rescue plan. Instead, the R's are going for the cheap-and-easy moment -- for example, Upton's two-page bill that somehow expects insurers to play along.
Maybe Republicans don't think it's in their interest to fix the Affordable Care Act. Or maybe there's no point in reviving the canary in the coal mine. Most likely, like the Democrats who wrote it, the Republicans have no idea how to fix Obamacare.
which may have been the goal in the first place.
May not be?
Uh, no....definitely NOT.
The first provision should be repealing ObamaCare and then move on to implementing Medial Savings Accounts, Policy Portability, Tort Reform, etc.
Hey, Candy, check the transcript.
It’s definitely not worth salvaging.
99.9 percent possible
Ted Cruz was right. Say that every time these nasty revelations are brought up in conversations around the water cooler. It will bring instant consternation and silence as that awful truth sinks in.
Yes, all we can do now to “salvage” it is to go single payer... right?
There really isn’t any ‘may’ about it.
Obama’s consolidation and control over near 20% of this economy can’t be handled having to deal with private insurers. It could only be done with a ubiquitous Medicare/Medicare-like system for all.
Obama “fibbing” is like rape-rape...
Goldberg: Obama’s Lies Will Be Infamous
Which is why many of us chuckle at your columns.
He didn’t fib, he just plain lied
Interesting aspect to 0’s shenanigans I believe voiced yesterday:
The “you can keep it” lie was rolled out on purpose so as to withstand the republicans driving on Hillary!Care very effectively with “you will lose your plan”. A lie whose purpose was as an antidote to the oncoming reality and republican-voiced logic.
Time to use the f-word about Obamacare
800,000 to 900,000 Californians will lose their individual health care plans at the end of the year...
That's a LOT of voters right there. Wouldn't want somethin' to happen to [their votes].
What many in GOP are missing the opportunity to say in response to above is those benefits are pretty worthless when Obama-care doubles your insurance premiums and jacks up the deductible to $4,000 to $6,000 . Obama promised we could keep the affordable policies with only the benefits we need, our current plans, and he was lying.
And why do those of us who cannot be pregnant, cannot conceive, get forced to pay for maternity medical cost coverage?
Come on GOP, wake up go for the kill!
Bing... we have a winner.
Back in '09 when 0bamacare "had to be passed to see what was in it" if the morons running the GOP had any sense they would've demanded that it be implemented by 2011, mid-2012 at the latest - BEFORE THE ELECTIONS. I'd bet that the results would have been that the kenyan would be GONE and Reid as well.
He wants us to do like Clayton Williams said, it is inevitable so might as well sit back and relax.
It was beyond salvaging before it was signed into law.
Apparently, President Barack Obama was fibbing when he said in 2009 that under his Affordable Care Act, “if you like your health care plan, you’ll be able to keep your health care plan, period.” On Wednesday, Washington Post fact checker Glenn Kessler rated that pledge as a four-Pinocchio whopper.
Weren’t the additional regulations removing the legislation that would have allowed plans to be grandfathered written in 2010 ? In 2009 it would have been largely accurate.
Obonics: An inarticulate way of describing what the realities are.
Damn. I really should get started on my English To Obonics Dictionary while there's still time.
Unfortunately, the same is probably true of the U.S.A.
I, personally, will not pay even one damn cent.
Well, James, you voted for the asshat. You tell me.
This should vindicate Sen. Ted Cruz. I just hope the RINOs don’t give Obama the out of delaying the individual mandate a year pushing the Obamcare disaster off the radar screen until after the 2014 elections
Republicans should introduce ObamaCare Reform legislation.
Don’t hold your breath. Republicans should be doing a lot of things, but they won’t. You’re right, they are missing a big opportunity here to step up and lead. But that’s just not what they do.
I can understand that the rats are against Ted Cruz, because they fear him, but I never will get it that some republicans are. They need to sit down and think what he is about and support him
I was designed to be unworkable.
“An inarticulate way of describing what realities are”......
When we were kids, our parents called that kind of talking a........LIE!!!!
WE got PUNISHED for such ‘inarticulate speaking’.
Another example of the lack of upbringing that Obama & his entire administration suffers from.
There is no “MAY.”
James Stokes: Am I missing something here”??????
Sure you are, James-—NOW you are paying for all the bums who won’t take care of themselves, practice unsafe sex, want abortions on demand, etc.
Welcome to Socialism.
Another hint, James:: Go read Atlas Shrugged. You might get a clue.
Oh, this is just foreplay. The real screwing hasn’t even begun to start.
This is absolutely the reason it’s a failure, and we need to keep our eye on that ball. They’re going to push for single payer VERY soon.
My Aunt had tremendous health insurance. Every Monday was Doctor Day. My cousin would come and pick up my Aunt and they would go to the city for a medical appointment. They would have lunch, and then they would go to the Doctor’s office. My aunt would be seen for whatever complaint she could come up with. Then, my Aunt and cousin would go shopping. They would follow this off by having dinner in the city. Then, they would head back home. This happened every Monday. It was a social event. Wait until we add about nine or ten million more people like my Aunt into healthcare. Try seeing a Doctor, then. HEY EVERYBODY!!!!!! IT’S DOCTOR DAY!!!!!
If it fails will government auto insurance ensue?.
Marxism doesn’t work.
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