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Americans keep moving to states with low taxes and housing costs
Washington Examiner ^ | 10/30/2013 | Michael Barone

Posted on 10/31/2013 7:44:02 AM PDT by amnestynone

Where are Americans moving, and why? Timothy Noah, writing in the Washington Monthly, professes to be puzzled. He points out that people have been moving out of states with high per capita incomes -- Connecticut, New York, Massachusetts, Maryland -- to states with lower income levels.

“Why are Americans by and large moving away from economic opportunity rather than toward it?” he asks.

Actually, it's not puzzling at all. The movement from high-tax, high-housing-cost states to low-tax, low-housing-cost states has been going on for more than 40 years, as I note in my new book Shaping Our Nation: How Surges of Migration Transformed America and Its Politics.

Between 1970 and 2010 the population of New York state increased from 18 million to 19 million. In that same period, the population of Texas increased from 11 million to 25 million.

The picture is even starker if you look at major metro areas. The New York metropolitan area, including counties in New Jersey and Connecticut, increased from 17.8 million in 1970 to 19.2 million in 2010 — up 8 percent. During that time the nation grew 52 percent.

In the same period, the four big metro areas in Texas — Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin — grew from 6 million to 15.6 million, a 160 percent increase.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: barone; migration; redstates; texas
A good point some of the statistics used to measure standard of living show an error in that many people in the large cities are childless and since children do not have income they ttend to inflate the income levels in those cities artificially. Michael Barone is the gold standard of political commentary.
1 posted on 10/31/2013 7:44:02 AM PDT by amnestynone
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To: amnestynone

it is a lie that those liberal hell holes contain any economic opportunity whatsoever


2 posted on 10/31/2013 7:45:48 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: amnestynone

Clintoid people from MD may be the ones giving McAwful the lead in VA’s governor’s race on Nov. 5.


3 posted on 10/31/2013 7:47:12 AM PDT by Theodore R. (The grand pooh-bahs have spoken: "It's Jebbie's turn!" to LOSE!)
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To: amnestynone

Part of this is that liberals are puzzled, as to why somebody would want to move to Texas. They think that New York is a slice of heaven on earth. Why would anybody abandon Manhattan for Dallas or Houston, goes through the minds of liberals.


4 posted on 10/31/2013 7:47:46 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Been to Texas.

Been to New York.

I’ll take Texas.

With no hesitation.

And - if one needs additional encouragement, think of what’s in line for NYC after the dorks there elect that sub-moronic liberal limpwrist as mayor.


5 posted on 10/31/2013 7:50:40 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: amnestynone
“Why are Americans by and large moving away from economic opportunity rather than toward it?” he asks.

Huh? Moving from New York to Texas is moving towards economic opportunity. It's not like your moving to the barren wastelands of North Dakota.... oh, high paying jobs there too?

6 posted on 10/31/2013 7:50:55 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Everyone get online for Obamacare on 10/1. Overload the system and crash it hard!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Texas needs to worry about the number of liberals smart enough to flee their home states mess but not smart enough to realize their very own voting habits are what caused the mess in the first place.

a liberal will always be a liberal and they will always vote for the liberal and then be confused as to why the area they moved to when to shyt...


7 posted on 10/31/2013 7:50:55 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: amnestynone

Typical liberal cannot comprehend the notion of “cost of living” in conjunction with per capita income. Who is educating these people...oh, never mind.....


8 posted on 10/31/2013 7:54:17 AM PDT by TaxMe
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To: amnestynone

Anyone know where the really conservative areas of Texas and/or Arizona are?

Sick of liberals and seeking to move to bedrock America....


9 posted on 10/31/2013 7:59:47 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: amnestynone

Yeah, but they are driving up mine.


10 posted on 10/31/2013 8:02:12 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Jack Hammer

Central and east Texas.

The valley and the inner cities of Houston, Dallas, SA, and Austin are liberal. Any place outside the larger cities in conservative.


11 posted on 10/31/2013 8:04:20 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Jack Hammer

If you’re considering Texas, be sure and do your diligence regarding property taxes....areas vary greatly there.


12 posted on 10/31/2013 8:04:24 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: Jack Hammer

Will Texas and Arizona be conservative after amnesty? Just asking. I don’t think the GOP gets it. Amnesty will push the nation left just as obamacare will.


13 posted on 10/31/2013 8:06:25 AM PDT by volunbeer (We must embrace austerity or austerity will embrace us)
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To: amnestynone
I grew up in New York. There is nothing that would make me move back to that abominable s***hole.

I'd have to sell my guns, for what? To pay nearly 9% sales tax and triple my property tax bill? The place is run by leftists, the weather is mostly miserable and the traffic sucks.

Nearly all of those I know who remain would love to leave, but are tied by family and career issues.

14 posted on 10/31/2013 8:18:10 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: AAABEST

I used to call on businesses in Upstate New York and would find that annually about 10% of my contacts would relocate to the Carolinas.

No doubt the reason North Carolina has become so blue at this point.


15 posted on 10/31/2013 8:57:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Theodore R.

It’s really just the demographic trend.

States like NY, Cali, Md, etc are so overwhelmingly Dem that they can export a lot of liberals to their neighbors and still remain solidly in the D column themselves.

Az, Nev, NM, Colo, NC, Va, etc.


16 posted on 10/31/2013 9:01:02 AM PDT by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: amnestynone

I left Maryland 7 years ago for Indian River County, Florida and haven’t looked back. I listen to my friends still there whine and complain about O’Malley, taxes,fees and the corrupt system but they still stay there and continue to feed the beast. I’ll never, ever return there to live.


17 posted on 10/31/2013 9:07:39 AM PDT by Mustard (tt)
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To: amnestynone

I hope they card-check these people at the border for political affiliation, and reject the libtards from spreading their cancer. (if it were actually possible)


18 posted on 10/31/2013 10:07:04 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Da Coyote
That Mayor may be just the ticket. He could do to NYC what Coleman Young did to Detroit. That would turn the influence this nefarious city plays to nothing. He could also help break the upstairs downstairs coalition of the Dem's. I consider him a welcome development.
19 posted on 10/31/2013 10:20:42 AM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: amnestynone

We are looking at Kentucky who won’t tax my Husbands military retirement. South Carolina is a great state to live in but after paying thousands in taxes last year on his retirement benefits, we are looking to move to a state where our money goes further.

Now if we could only sell our house.......


20 posted on 10/31/2013 10:25:45 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Theodore R.

Yes! They screw up their own states and move to fiscally sane states and once there decide they know what is best and that all these wonderful new programs and policies must be implemented to make it just like the home they left. Ignoring the fact that is what screwed up the state they left.

I have a colleague that moved to my small town after taking a job at my place of employment and the first thing he decided was he didn’t like the way the city was run and it was too politically closed for his wild leftist ways, so he sat out to change it by trying to get in good with a few other travelers in the town and started writing blistering columns about the locals and how his way was better. The result backlash and contempt for him and his associates and out right being ignored at the political level. So far he has been unsuccessful in his kook efforts, but as you know commies never stop.

Liberals are like locust, they destroy period anything they touch.


21 posted on 10/31/2013 10:32:00 AM PDT by sarge83
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