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Belgium Considering New Euthanasia Law for Kids
ABC News ^ | Oct 31, 2013 | Maria Cheng

Posted on 10/31/2013 8:39:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Edited on 10/31/2013 8:58:06 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Should children have the right to ask for their own deaths?

In Belgium, where euthanasia is now legal for people over the age of 18, the government is considering extending it to children something that no other country has done. The same bill would offer the right to die to adults with early dementia.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: assistedsuicide; belgium; catholic; childeuthanasia; communism; corruption; dementia; democrats; elections; euthanasia; ghouls; govtabuse; mediabias; obama; obamacare; palin; prayer; prolife; tyranny


1 posted on 10/31/2013 8:39:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Obamacare Supporters Sign Petition For “Mandatory Euthanasia” Of Senior Citizens

People eagerly sign as activist tells them “We’re going to put them to sleep like you would your dog”

Steve Watson

July 30, 2013

A video clip posted to YouTube by activist Mark Dice shows supporters of Obamacare blindly signing a petition calling for “mandatory euthanasia” under the new health law.

Dice was able to gather several signatures for the fake petition, telling people in San Diego that they were signing to support putting senior citizens “to sleep” in order to save healthcare costs.

“All I needed to do was mention the key words ‘Will you help Obama’ and people sign just about anything,” Dice noted.

http://www.infowars.com/obamacare-supporters-sign-petition-for-mandatory-euthanasia-of-senior-citizens/


2 posted on 10/31/2013 8:41:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

In ancient days babies born with defects, etc were simply tossed off a cliff or left to die correct?


3 posted on 10/31/2013 8:43:34 AM PDT by edcoil (System now set up not to allow some to win but for no one to lose!)
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To: KeyLargo

Evil is sweeping over the world like a dark and deadly fog.


4 posted on 10/31/2013 8:44:18 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: KeyLargo
Liberalism, progressivism, the anti-life group think
5 posted on 10/31/2013 8:44:29 AM PDT by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: KeyLargo; Black Agnes

Imagine cruel parents telling a (disabled or ugly or sick) kid, “WE WISH YOU WERE DEAD!” a few thousand times.

“WE WISH YOU HAD NEVER BEEN BORN! OUR LIFE IS HELL BECAUSE OF YOU!”

The unwanted kid will get the message, and “decide” to ask for the death needle.

Shudder.


6 posted on 10/31/2013 8:44:45 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KeyLargo
Is it more or less ethical to terminate an 8 year old who can't stand the pain from a disease any longer or an 8 seconds old just born baby because the mother doesn’t want to raise it? I am not at all surprised at Belgium consdering OK child euthanasia.
7 posted on 10/31/2013 8:45:16 AM PDT by dblshot (I am John Galt.)
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To: KeyLargo

Just unbelievable. Children? They haven’t even shaken hands with life yet and they ‘know’ they’d be better off dead?

And with the parent’s complicit in this, it only amounts to a late, late term abortion.


8 posted on 10/31/2013 8:45:26 AM PDT by Paulie
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To: KeyLargo
Why do governments hate their citizens so much?
9 posted on 10/31/2013 8:45:32 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: edcoil

In Tibet they had a nifty custom. A niche in a wall above a cliff. Unwanted babies were placed there. “Somehow” they were gone very soon.


10 posted on 10/31/2013 8:45:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KeyLargo

totally disgusting


11 posted on 10/31/2013 8:46:44 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: edcoil

Yes, or left outside alone someplace to just die. Exposed to the elements.


12 posted on 10/31/2013 8:47:54 AM PDT by midnightcat
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To: KeyLargo

Will the Belgians soon be offering euthanasia to Jews? I hear the progressives in Germany once did that.


13 posted on 10/31/2013 8:48:39 AM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: BubbaBasher

Pulling the Plug: Five Strategies for Talking to Democrats About Euthanasia

By Eric Pavlat

The topic of physician-assisted suicide, or PAS, is a confusing and heart-wrenching issue for many. In some ways, it can touch us more personally than abortion, as we are all likely to face difficult end-of-life choices at some point, whether for ourselves or for a loved one. We have to navigate Church teaching on bioethics; where science advances quickly, the Church ruminates deliberately, and almost no one is an expert. For this reason, we are often hesitant to speak to others about PAS.

But culture isn’t standing still around us. The courts are setting precedents—as with the Terri Schiavo case in Florida—and the mass media are doing their best to promote assisted suicide as a heroic act of self-determination, as in the recent Oscar-winning film Million-Dollar Baby. We need to talk openly about this phenomenon before the media, the courts, and the legislatures go any further. And we must be able to engage those who disagree with the Church’s position on PAS—more often than not, Democrats.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/resources/life-and-family/euthanasia-and-assisted-suicide/pulling-the-plug-five-strategies-for-talking-to-democrats-about-euthanasia/


14 posted on 10/31/2013 8:50:03 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Farnsworth

How legal euthanasia changed Belgium for ever

The ideology of absolute self-determination has become sacred and unquestionable.

Tom Mortier and Steven Bieseman | 17 May 2013

In 2002, Belgium became the second country in the world after its neighbour, The Netherlands, to legalise euthanasia. Over the next decade our country has become a living laboratory for radical social change. With many other countries debating legalisation at the moment, now is a good moment to stand back and take a good long look at the results.

In 2002 Belgium was governed by a coalition of Liberals and Social Democrats. The slightly more conservative Christian Democrats had been excluded. With blue as the colour of the Liberals and red of the left-leaning Social Democrats, the press dubbed it the Purple coalition.

The Christian Democrats took a dim view of euthanasia, but they were in opposition. The Purple coalition was free to pass an euthanasia law based on the view that an individual should always have a “free choice” to end his life. In absolutizing individual self-determination the left and the right found common ground..

http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/how_legal_euthanasia_changed_belgium_for_ever


15 posted on 10/31/2013 8:51:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
Belgium Considering New Euthanasia Law for Kids

I can understand why kids in Belgium would want to die.

16 posted on 10/31/2013 8:52:37 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Navy Patriot

Obama congratulates new king of Belgium

Published on July 21, 2013 22:45

US President Barack Obama extended his congratulations Sunday to the new king of Belgium, saying he for deeper ties between their countries.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/DesktopModules/DnnForge%20-%20NewsArticles/Print.aspx?tabid=99&tabmoduleid=94&articleId=797855&moduleId=405&PortalID=0


17 posted on 10/31/2013 8:58:03 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Navy Patriot

Why is that?


18 posted on 10/31/2013 9:01:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: GeronL

Hillary’s sorry state of affairs

By S.A. Miller

June 11, 2013 | 4:00am

* A DS agent was called off a case against US Ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman over claims that he solicited prostitutes, including minors.

“The agent began his investigation and had determined that the ambassador routinely ditched his protective security detail in order to solicit sexual favors from both prostitutes and minor children,” says the memo.

“The ambassador’s protective detail and the embassy’s surveillance detection team . . . were well aware of the behavior.”

Undersecretary of State for Management Patrick Kennedy ordered the investigation ceased, and the ambassador remains in place, according to the memo.

US Ambassador to Belgium Howard Gutman, with his wife in Brussels, was investigated over claims he solicited prostitutes.

Gutman was a big Democratic donor before taking the post, having raised $500,000 for President Obama’s 2008 campaign and helping finance his inaugural.

http://nypost.com/2013/06/11/hillarys-sorry-state-of-affairs/

Could Gutman’s Troubles End the Absurd Practice of Selling Ambassadorships?
Nasty allegations against Howard Gutman, ambassador to Belgium and a wealthy bundler for Obama, make a good case to stop giving appointments to big donors. We’ll see if anything changes.

http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/Felsenthal-Files/June-2013/Could-an-Ugly-Charge-Against-an-Obama-Ambassador-End-the-Practice-of-Selling-Posts/


19 posted on 10/31/2013 9:03:21 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
thanks for the link. it's a good read.

We see that cancer here already, in a few “progressive” states, it will spread....

Abortion is at it's root, the dehumanization of life.

20 posted on 10/31/2013 9:04:52 AM PDT by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Farnsworth

Health
Death Drugs Cause Uproar in Oregon
Aug. 6, 2008
By SUSAN DONALDSON JAMES

The news from Barbara Wagner’s doctor was bad, but the rejection letter from her insurance company was crushing.

The 64-year-old Oregon woman, whose lung cancer had been in remission, learned the disease had returned and would likely kill her. Her last hope was a $4,000-a-month drug that her doctor prescribed for her, but the insurance company refused to pay.

What the Oregon Health Plan did agree to cover, however, were drugs for a physician-assisted death. Those drugs would cost about $50.

“It was horrible,” Wagner told ABCNews.com. “I got a letter in the mail that basically said if you want to take the pills, we will help you get that from the doctor and we will stand there and watch you die. But we won’t give you the medication to live.”

Critics of Oregon’s decade-old Death With Dignity Law — the only one of its kind in the nation — have been up in arms over the indignity of her unsigned rejection letter. Even those who support Oregon’s liberal law were upset.

The incident has spilled over the state border into Washington, where advocacy groups are pushing for enactment of Initiative 1000 in November, legalizing a similar assisted-death law.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=5517492&page=1#.T29WVxyesZE


21 posted on 10/31/2013 9:07:50 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Jack Hydrazine
This
22 posted on 10/31/2013 9:11:13 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: KeyLargo

Fits the presidents “take a pill” mind set


23 posted on 10/31/2013 9:13:51 AM PDT by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Travis McGee

Soon the parents will no longer have a say in this. The state will decide.

Life unworthy of life and all that.


24 posted on 10/31/2013 9:14:20 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: BubbaBasher
Evil is sweeping over the world like a dark and deadly fog.

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It's frightening.

25 posted on 10/31/2013 9:14:48 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Paulie

Euthanasia for children

As the law proponents claim, it "marks a turning point in the nation's approach to the rights of young people, some of whom would be able to choose to die if the law were to pass, even while still being legally barred from driving, marrying, voting or drinking liquor until they turned 18," reports IBtimes.com Alzheimer's patients to also face euthanization under proposed law

But wait, there's more! It's not just children who will be euthanized under this new law, it's also scores of Alzheimer's patients.

"Parliamentarians would also consider extended mercy-killing to people suffering from Alzheimer's-type illnesses," said the socialist senator.

Euthanasia is, of course, the most convenient way for any government to get rid of people it doesn't want to care for. Instead of teaching the public how to prevent and reverse Alzheimer's disease, the government simply passes a new law to murder them all while calling it "compassionate medicine."

Via: http://www.naturalnews.com/040744_euthanasia_children_mercy_killings.html

26 posted on 10/31/2013 9:14:53 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Travis McGee
If I recall, there was a thread here not too long ago about a young man who had reached the age of majority and requested euthanasia because his conversion to female sex change operation had not turned out as he had hope. I believe it was Belgium.

There you have liberal whack-job land in a nutshell: It was illegal to counsel him to accept the gender he was born with or even delay such a life-changing operation until he developed a little more judgement.

But it was fine to put him to death when the proscribed transgender therapy didn't take.

Truly as sick as Sodom.

And the people who put this poor kid to death consider themselves morally superior to a guy like me who just wanted to give him a chance to grow up.

27 posted on 10/31/2013 9:22:44 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: KeyLargo

Scary.


28 posted on 10/31/2013 9:29:57 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Farnsworth
HAPPY HALLOWEEN FROM YOUR GOVERNMENT!
29 posted on 10/31/2013 9:32:42 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Navy Patriot

Oy!


30 posted on 10/31/2013 9:42:55 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: dblshot

Kathleen Sebelius says decrease in human beings will cover cost of Obamacare contraception mandate

Wednesday, March 07, 2012 by: Ethan A. Huff, staff writer
Tags: Kathleen Sebelius, contraception, depopulation

(NaturalNews) The Obama Administration’s 2013 national budget proposal includes an unconstitutional mandate that insurance companies provide full coverage for birth control drugs and treatments, including sterilizations and drugs that induce abortions. And in defense of the proposed plan, U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary Kathleen Sebelius actually told a House panel recently that the costs associated with the mandate will be offset by an overall population reduction brought about by the measures.

“The reduction in the number of pregnancies compensates for the cost of contraception,” alleged Sebelius at the hearing, parroting the same claims made by Mr. Obama several weeks ago in defense of the scam, which is really just Big Brother interfering with the private health coverage choices of companies and their employees.

http://www.naturalnews.com/035171_Kathleen_Sebelius_contraception_depopulation.html


31 posted on 10/31/2013 10:06:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Prayer of Pope Leo XIII to the Archangel Michael

O Glorious Archangel Saint Michael

Prince of the heavenly host, be our defense in the terrible warfare which we carry on against principalities and Powers, against the rulers of this world of darkness, spirits of evil. Come to the aid of man, whom God created immortal, made in his own image and likeness, and redeemed at a great price from the tyranny of the devil.

Fight this day the battle of the Lord, together with the holy angels, as already thou hast fought the leader of the proud angels, Lucifer, and his apostate host, who were powerless to resist thee, nor was there place for them any longer in Heaven.

That cruel, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil or Satan, who seduces the whole world, was cast into the abyss with his angels. Behold, this primeval enemy and slayer of men has taken courage. Transformed into an angel of light, he wanders about with all the multitude of wicked spirits, invading the earth in order to blot out the name of God and of his Christ, to seize upon, slay and cast into eternal perdition souls destined for the crown of eternal glory. This wicked dragon pours out, as a most impure flood, the venom of his malice on men of depraved mind and corrupt heart, the spirit of lying, of impiety, of blasphemy, and the pestilent breath of impurity, and of every vice and iniquity.

These most crafty enemies have filled and inebriated with gall and bitterness the Church, the spouse of the immaculate Lamb, and have laid impious hands on her most sacred possessions. In the Holy Place itself, where has been set up the See of the most holy Peter and the Chair of Truth for the light of the world, they have raised the throne of their abominable impiety, with the iniquitous design that when the Pastor has been struck, the sheep may be scattered.

Arise then, O invincible Prince, bring help against the attacks of the lost spirits to the people of God, and give them the victory. They venerate thee as their protector and Patron; in thee holy Church glories as her defense against the malicious power of hell; to thee has God entrusted the souls of men to be established in heavenly beatitude. Oh, pray to the God of peace that He may put Satan under our feet, so far conquered that he may no longer be able to hold men in captivity and harm the Church. Offer our prayers in the sight of the Most High, so that they may quickly conciliate the mercies of the Lord; and beating down the dragon, the ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, do thou again make him captive in the abyss, that he may no longer seduce the nations. Amen

Behold the Cross of the Lord; be scattered ye hostile powers.
The Lion of the tribe of Judah has conquered, the root of David.
Let thy mercies be upon us, O Lord.
As we have hoped in thee.
O Lord, hear my prayer.
And let my cry come unto thee.
O God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, we call upon thy holy name, and as suppliants we implore thy clemency, that by the intercession of Mary, ever Virgin immaculate and our Mother, and of the glorious Archangel Saint Michael, thou wouldst deign to help us against Satan and all other unclean spirits, who wander about the world for the injury of the human race and the ruin of souls. Amen.


32 posted on 10/31/2013 10:09:39 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Paulie
So now children are to receive the same treatment as convicted felons. But not just any felon....the worst of the worst. Those who are adjudicated to be murderers, ....... who receive the death penalty. Then comes a mandatory 15 year appeal. Do these children get the same consideration? The subjectivity of a chief complaint, "this child needs to die", seems arbitrary and a decision to be made by others than the one who is planned to be executed.

It is hard to believe that memories fade so quickly since WWII. I understand they are still digging up ordnance in Belgium to this very day....ordnance which was placed by the nazis. Yet here we are again....different country selecting imposition of death to worthless eaters...that life, unworthy of living.....Humanity has forgotten the lessons of recent history.....so it will be repeated, it seems. Think how far we have moved in the last 30 years.....For those of us with little children or grandchildren.....how far will humanity fall in the next 30 years? Governments contemplating killing innocents.

33 posted on 10/31/2013 10:12:57 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Black Agnes
Atheist Billboard Says It’s OK to Murder, Rape, and Steal

VIA: http://godfatherpolitics.com/13087/atheist-billboard-says-ok-murder-rape-steal/

34 posted on 10/31/2013 10:13:08 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: dsc

???????


35 posted on 10/31/2013 10:14:42 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Texas Songwriter

36 posted on 10/31/2013 10:16:31 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: bert

Where people are killing babies and children, there also is Satan.


37 posted on 10/31/2013 10:31:54 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

*Why do governments hate their citizens so much? *

Probably because they don’t see them as people. Just statistics to give them more power and money.

They have told God to stay away, they will take over as being the final authority over the people.

Hitler was an artist before he was a Progressive Socialist. His early paintings had people in them, but the people grew smaller and smaller as the months and years went on until there were no people in his paintings, or they were merely tiny dots. This is how most governments view their people.

“When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, But when a wicked man rules, people groan.”
Proverbs 29:2


38 posted on 10/31/2013 10:42:13 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: Vigilanteman

39 posted on 10/31/2013 11:05:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dsc

just idol wondering on my part


40 posted on 10/31/2013 11:13:57 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert

“just idol wondering on my part”

Oh, I get it; that’s a pun, right?


41 posted on 10/31/2013 11:48:44 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Close ... “wrong way” ...it was a woman who had an addadicktomy that didn’t work out as well as she had hoped; and killed herself because of it.


42 posted on 10/31/2013 3:40:05 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: KeyLargo

Is it the Logan’s Run clause...anyone over the age of 30 must die........maybe they could do a great big celebratory leaving party on a nightly basis like in the film,.....and its Dem, they probably would do that and televise it.


43 posted on 11/01/2013 1:29:21 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: DuncanWaring

Thanks for refreshing my memory on the details. The left is, of course, even more willing to kill young women than young men in the name of political correctness.


44 posted on 11/01/2013 11:04:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

And there’s the real “War on Women”.


45 posted on 11/01/2013 11:48:55 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: KeyLargo
ah aint the bright shiney Mordern World Wunnaful???


46 posted on 11/10/2013 11:49:52 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: edcoil

Well also in ancient days - and even until quite recently (~120 years ago) - there wasn’t even the technology to keep them alive. Oddly enough, advances in medicine have changed things so much that now we HAVE the question what to do with babies born looking like a freak show reject.


47 posted on 11/12/2013 7:59:57 AM PST by Me1onCollie
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To: Travis McGee

Former Dutch health minister Els Borst, who pushed for euthanasia legalization, found dead

By TOBY STERLING | Associated Press | Feb 11, 2014 4:21 AM CST in Health, Politics

AMSTERDAM (AP) — Els Borst, a former health minister who drafted the Netherlands’ 2002 law permitting euthanasia, has been found dead in her garage, police said Tuesday. She was 81.

http://www.newser.com/article/42b4b255aaf54ceb9d838a636e478dac/former-dutch-health-minister-els-borst-who-pushed-for-euthanasia-legalization-found-dead.html


48 posted on 02/13/2014 6:24:51 AM PST by KeyLargo
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