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Genetic Literacy Project Infographic: Is labeling GMOs really about our “Right to Know”?
Genetic Literacy Project ^ | October 31, 2013 | Jon Entine

Posted on 11/01/2013 3:26:45 PM PDT by EveningStar

If one believes the backers of Washington State Initiative 522, Tuesday’s vote is simple commonsense: It’s about the “right to know” what’s in our food...

“To be clear the Just Label campaign is not an anti-GMO effort,” says Gary Hirshberg, founder of organic food maker Stonyfield Organic, and head of Just Label It...

But in less guarded moments, Hirshberg makes it clear that the labeling movement has nothing at all to do with science, information and discourse—it is exclusively an anti-GMO effort...

(Excerpt) Read more at geneticliteracyproject.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: gmo; infertility; initiative522; monsanto; quickblameadm; quickblamemonsanto; roundup; washingtonstate
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GMO = genetically modified organism
1 posted on 11/01/2013 3:26:46 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Whats wrong with labeling it?


2 posted on 11/01/2013 3:29:11 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: EveningStar

There is no need for not identifying GMO’s particularly if they are as wonderful as their supporters purport them to be. What are they trying to hide?
I hope and pray that this Measure passes.


3 posted on 11/01/2013 3:30:51 PM PDT by acapesket
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To: driftdiver
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4 posted on 11/01/2013 3:42:24 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Just because manufacturers are putting aspartame in milk and don’t want it on the label doesn’t mean they’re trying to hide anything.


5 posted on 11/01/2013 3:44:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: driftdiver

Because the FDA labeling system is based on hazard (GMO has none) and on nutritional composition (GMO is not nutritionally different).

If you want to buy non GMO foods, buy certified Organic and pay the price premium. Stop trying to force those costs on the rest of us consumers who aren’t afraid of GMO foods.

This fear and hysteria is manufactured by the Organic Lobby to increase their market share and shore up their perceived value.

People die every year from eating contaminated organic foods. Nobody has EVER died from eating GMO foods.


6 posted on 11/01/2013 3:54:49 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with brute force, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: EveningStar; All

Let the buyer beware. The information should be available to the buyer if the buyer wants it.


7 posted on 11/01/2013 3:57:19 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: EveningStar

Technically speaking, every food we consume—NO exception—is genetically modified. All we have done is to refine the techniques, so that instead of mixing up genes in a haphazard manner without being able to predict the outcome, we can specifically target one gene and leave the rest untouched.

I think the anti-GMO movement is based in Ludditism, not in science or rational thinking.


8 posted on 11/01/2013 4:02:00 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Valpal1

So who died and made you food god?

I want to know whether the food I eat is GMO. Don’t I have a right to know what I’m eating?

You don’t know that there hasn’t been a single death caused by GMO. The last I recall that wasn’t an item tracked by CDC.


9 posted on 11/01/2013 4:23:46 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: exDemMom

“Technically speaking, every food we consume—NO exception—is genetically modified”

Technically speaking you are full of crap. If there’s no difference in GMO then why do you need to push it?

Eat it if you want. Stop trying to force it into everyones good.


10 posted on 11/01/2013 4:25:28 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks EveningStar.
...in less guarded moments, ['organic' food seller] Hirshberg makes it clear that the labeling movement has nothing at all to do with science, information and discourse—it is exclusively an anti-GMO effort...
My supervisor referred to GMOs as the reason for gluten allergies, which of course also explains why gluten allergies have been around a lot longer than GMOs -- oh, wait, no it doesn't. Cell Phones Cause Brain Cancer / Aluminum Cookware Causes Alzheimer's / Vaccinations Cause Autism / Breast Implants Cause 100 Percent Of Cancers / NFL Games Cause Wife-beating ping.


11 posted on 11/01/2013 4:27:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Boy when you go strawman you go all the way.


12 posted on 11/01/2013 4:31:08 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

> You don’t know that there hasn’t been a single death caused by GMO. The last I recall that wasn’t an item tracked by CDC.

IOW, you have NO DATA from the CDC that a single death has been caused by GMO.


13 posted on 11/01/2013 4:31:17 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: EveningStar

Just more anti-capitalism, anti-business government regulation masquerading as science and concern for our safety.


14 posted on 11/01/2013 4:33:04 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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To: driftdiver

Whats wrong with labeling it?


So what good does a label that says “may contain GMO” do you?


15 posted on 11/01/2013 4:33:08 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: SunkenCiv

You GMO freaks are wanting to make the change. You prove its safe and then you eat it.

Why do you seek to force everyone else to eat something they don’t want? And run to insults to attack those who don’t agree.

Totalitarians seek to control the food supply. They use the very same tactics you are using.


16 posted on 11/01/2013 4:33:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

It means I won’t buy it. I’ll buy another product that doesn’t have that label even if it costs more.

Its called a free market. shocking I know


17 posted on 11/01/2013 4:34:14 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Valpal1

/bingo

Not forcing the GMO label on foods isn’t forcing anyone to eat GMO foods. We’ve been through this nonsense most recently since the 1960s, but the organic food nonsense started long before that.

The beginning of chemical agriculture lies in the 19th c, but the use of anhydrous ammonia was thought to be a great way to destroy the crop in the field. Turned out it wasn’t. There’s been a fear that a single strain of disease could literally wipe out the entire corn crop, and yet the only viable candidate for that destroyer remains the weather. Guess what — the same shamans have intuited that human activity determines the climate!!! /s Hey, it’s only logical!!! /s

The world’s population stood at about one billion in 1900, and that figure was horrifying, particularly to the remaining colonial powers, since they realized what a small fraction of the world they were. All the eugenics nonsense, the racial hygiene nonsense, all the “population bomb” and neo-malthusian nonsense, and even the pro-abortion movement, arose from the fear of unrestricted population growth among “the wogs”.


18 posted on 11/01/2013 4:38:21 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: EveningStar

They won’t label it because they know people don’t want it. They’d have us eating ‘meat’ grown in a vat of chemicals if they could.


19 posted on 11/01/2013 4:38:44 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: exDemMom

/bingo and /bravo


20 posted on 11/01/2013 4:39:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: ifinnegan; PeterPrinciple

/bingo


21 posted on 11/01/2013 4:40:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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22 posted on 11/01/2013 4:41:00 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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Uh-oh, better get the Obamacare people involved!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism#Uses

GMOs are used in biological and medical research, production of pharmaceutical drugs, experimental medicine (e.g. gene therapy), and agriculture


23 posted on 11/01/2013 4:42:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

What no response? just more insults.

I bet you work for Monsato.


24 posted on 11/01/2013 4:45:01 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Uh, you just called me a GMO freak, then complain about namecalling? What you are is a hypocrite and a liar.


25 posted on 11/01/2013 4:45:02 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: driftdiver

Go take your GMO-produced pharmaceuticals and STFU.


26 posted on 11/01/2013 4:45:48 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

You have no argument, just insults. You know nobody wants your crap and know that only the govt has the power to force people to eat it.

We don’t need GMO. The food conglomerates want it so they can control the food supply.


27 posted on 11/01/2013 4:46:53 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I want to know whether the food I eat is GMO. Don’t I have a right to know what I’m eating?


You have a right, grow your own, buy organic.
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But the answer to every problem here is govt. They don’t have GMO in Africa, won’t allow it. Did you notice that many of them are HUNGRY.


28 posted on 11/01/2013 4:47:45 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: SunkenCiv

people like you need a rope and a tall tree


29 posted on 11/01/2013 4:48:22 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

“You have a right, grow your own, buy organic.”

Why? What is wrong with labeling it? Why do you seek to force something on people using the power of govt?

The hunger in Africa has NOTHING to do with lack of food and GMO certainly won’t cure it. The hunger in Africa is caused by corrupt govt. Kinda the same thing you are pushing with this.


30 posted on 11/01/2013 4:50:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
I want to know whether the food I eat is GMO. Don’t I have a right to know what I’m eating?

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Yes.

31 posted on 11/01/2013 4:50:50 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

Many here seem to disagree with you and are happy to use the power of govt to enforce it.

Doesn’t sound conservative to me.


32 posted on 11/01/2013 4:52:06 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

If it were so great wouldn’t they prominently display it on the label? Like the ‘splenda’ logo on the low carb stuff?

‘proudly made with genetically modified corn! Saving the planet and feeding mankind one kernel at a time!’

Or some such.

They could even sell the right to display a GMO-PROUD logo of some sort.


33 posted on 11/01/2013 4:55:47 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: driftdiver

Why? What is wrong with labeling it? Why do you seek to force something on people using the power of govt?


My issue is that govt is your only answer. Find your own solution. Did you miss that part.

People with full stomachs have much time to complain. GMO and govt and corruption are related. Do you really want govt controlling your food?


34 posted on 11/01/2013 4:57:15 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Black Agnes

We’re paying people not to grow corn and they say this is needed to keep people from starving.


35 posted on 11/01/2013 4:57:20 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Gotcha. I lived in Africa. They’re starving because of war, discord and dictators. Starving out your opponent is a tactic in the ongoing tribal genocide there.

Has nothing to do with this or that crop variety. Roundup ready soybean seeds aren’t much good if you can’t afford the roundup too.


36 posted on 11/01/2013 5:00:29 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: PeterPrinciple

“My issue is that govt is your only answer. Find your own solution. Did you miss that part.”

I have a solution. Keep GMO out of the food supply, period.

“People with full stomachs have much time to complain. GMO and govt and corruption are related. Do you really want govt controlling your “

Ahh so you’re doing this for the staving? Then why are you pushing it for the US? Is lack of GMO really a reason for people not having food in the US? Heck its not even why people in Africa are starving.

People in Africa area starving because of political instability and the fact their govt sells the food aid they receive from the west instead of giving it to hungry people.


37 posted on 11/01/2013 5:01:04 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Apparently, the labeling laws that have been written have been overly complicated, incomplete at the same time not complete enough.

Raising GMO grain is a mess. No one should want it in their area.

We have seen some examples out here in WA and Oregon, where Monsanto had test farms years ago. After lying fallow for years and being recently sold, the new farmer found that no matter what he did, he was still raising GMO grain and being sued by Monsanto. He never planted the GMO grain, but he couldn’t get rid of it and Monsanto wouldn’t let him sell it without paying them a fee.


38 posted on 11/01/2013 5:02:54 PM PDT by Eva
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To: driftdiver
Technically speaking you are full of crap. If there’s no difference in GMO then why do you need to push it? Eat it if you want. Stop trying to force it into everyones good.

Please, give me an example of a food--plant or animal--grown by humans that is NOT genetically modified. I certainly can't think of one. Furthermore, no one is forcing you to eat genetically modified food--if you are so set on avoiding it, no one is stopping you from going out into the wilderness and gathering whatever plants, seeds, and wild game you want to consume.

BTW, thank you for once again illustrating that the left has no monopoly on emotion-driven irrational beliefs.

39 posted on 11/01/2013 5:02:58 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: EveningStar

I happen to live in WA, voted Yes on 522 and mailed my ballot yesterday. I am particular about my food and have been since I knew I could be. I’ve always been a label reader and been interested in nutrition all my life.
One thing I never believed was that margerine was good for the body. Our government told us it was better than butter or other oils for your heart. Now our government says they were wrong. How many people were harmed by eating margerine over so many years?
Once Monsanto and Roundup have contaminated all our foodstuffs and croplands & patented every seed available to you to grow a tomato in your backyard so you can’t grow anything BUT GMO crops, will we find out that we have been poisoning ourselves with government complicity for years with GMO foods? There was a recent case in Oregon where Monsanto had planted a GMO crop years ago as an experiment. Now non GMO seeds were planted but the GMO crop was still there transforming the crop into something foreign nations wouldn’t buy.
I want to have the right to thoughtfully choose my food. If I want I can buy Hamburger Helper filled with GMOs and mix it with meat which has been fattened with GMO corn, or I can make my own meal from ingredients which have not been modified and meat which was fed grass. Is that not an aspect of freedom that all Americans should have?
What about genetically modifying a salmon? When will the scientists playing God with our food come to an end?
I know I don’t trust them with mine any more than I trust Obama with my choice in health insurance.


40 posted on 11/01/2013 5:04:04 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Aspartame? There is one brand of milk that is sold locally that causes my daughter to break out in hives every time that she drinks it.


41 posted on 11/01/2013 5:04:22 PM PDT by Eva
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To: exDemMom

So breeding sheep as has been done for 2000 years is the same as mixing spider or goat DNA into corn?

Yes I get “emotional” about the food supply. It is life itself after all.

If GMO is so good why do you have to hide it?


42 posted on 11/01/2013 5:04:58 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Eva

Companies like Monsato seek to control the food supply. You won’t be able to grow your own food.

They’ve already taken steps to do this in Europe where you can only possess govt approved seeds. Which happen to be from companies like Monsato.


43 posted on 11/01/2013 5:06:40 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: exDemMom

The anti-GMO movement is based on the fact that you cannot kill the GMO seed. It is resistant to normal herbicides. Once GMO is planted or if it spreads naturally, it will reproduce forever and Monsanto will demand a cut, whether you intentionally planted GMO grain or not.


44 posted on 11/01/2013 5:07:18 PM PDT by Eva
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To: driftdiver

People in Africa area starving because of political instability and the fact their govt sells the food aid they receive from the west instead of giving it to hungry people.


and if they had freedom and choices what would it be like? You have freedom and choices, why do you want to look to govt to save you?

Believe me people with full stomachs have a lot of time to complain. and you are one of them. You need to think about the BIGGER PICTURE. Like liberals you think it is all about YOU - I want. We do not live in perfect world and never will. You better believe without GMO food would be scarce and high priced. And even with GMO we will see that time.

Buy you damn organic food. We have already implemented a system. Why do you have to fix a created problem that does nothing but create more bureaucracy.


45 posted on 11/01/2013 5:12:02 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: PeterPrinciple

The people in Africa are hungry because they turned the bread basket of the continent (formerly known as Rhodesia) over to black folks who don’t know or care to know how to raise food. Why? Because the white farmers were feeding them and that was just so “racist”. Kill or evict all the white farmers then sit around twiddling thumbs. Owning a farm does not make it produce food. That takes actual work.


46 posted on 11/01/2013 5:12:29 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: PeterPrinciple

You are confused.


47 posted on 11/01/2013 5:22:17 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I don’t understand that attitude at all.


48 posted on 11/01/2013 5:23:05 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Let's stop with the falsehoods, shall we? First, it is false to say anyone is "putting aspartame in milk." That is a proposal made by some but which has not been evaluated by the FDA. It ain't happening.

Second, it is a moot point since aspartame has been found harmless after thorough and exhaustive study by actual scientists as opposed to conspiracy minded bloggers. The hoax that it is toxic came originally from a crazy chain email way back in the day.

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how ignorant it is, but you are not entitled to spread BS and expect to get away with it.

49 posted on 11/01/2013 5:39:22 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: driftdiver
So breeding sheep as has been done for 2000 years is the same as mixing spider or goat DNA into corn?

DNA is DNA is DNA. There is absolutely *no* difference in DNA whether it comes from a spider, goat, corn, virus, bacteria, fungus, or any other living organism. It is merely a chemical code. Furthermore, organisms exchange DNA all the time.

Yes I get “emotional” about the food supply. It is life itself after all.

You allow emotion to override your God-given ability to think. If I were to suggest learning how to think logically and how to check facts, I think the suggestion would fall on deaf ears. That said, reacting emotionally without ever taking the time to learn whether there is anything to be hyper-emotional about doesn't do you or anyone else any good.

If GMO is so good why do you have to hide it?

No one is hiding anything. Every market I have ever seen, for my whole entire life, has displayed genetically modified food proudly, right out in the open. As I already pointed out, if you are so irrationally paranoid about eating genetically modified food, no one is stopping you from going out into the wilderness and gathering your own food.

50 posted on 11/01/2013 5:41:35 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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