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Chaos follows LAX shooting - Anti-government sentiment may be motive for attack
Los Angeles Times ^ | November 1, 2013 | Scott Gold, Joel Rubin and Kate Mather

Posted on 11/02/2013 1:39:51 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

[LA Times title and SUBTITLE on paper's website front page: Chaos follows LAX shooting - Anti-government sentiment may be motive for attack

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A composed, solitary gunman shot his way into Los Angeles International Airport on Friday morning, killing a transit security screener and injuring at least one more before being wounded by police and taken into custody. The incident was over in less than 10 minutes but caused chaos at the world's sixth-busiest airport and disrupted thousands of flights across the nation.

The suspected gunman was identified as Paul Anthony Ciancia, 23, a New Jersey native who lives in Los Angeles.

Authorities declined to discuss the gunman's motivation publicly. But a law enforcement official told The Times that a note was found on the gunman expressing "disappointment in the government" and noting that he had no interest in hurting "innocent people." Ciancia also sent a sibling a text message last week suggesting that he was prepared to die, officials said.

It appears the gunman targeted Transportation Security Administration agents, who are not armed. Authorities said he approached several people cowering in the airport terminal, pointed his gun at them, asked if they "were TSA" and then moved on without pulling the trigger if the answer was no. A witness said the gunman cursed the TSA repeatedly as he moved through the terminal."....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ciancia; lax; laxshooting; shooting; tsa
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1 posted on 11/02/2013 1:39:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The GAME MUST continue... until it's DONE..
UNless the elite political class is pulled down...
click for VIDEO--


2 posted on 11/02/2013 1:45:12 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There were early reports that the shooter was a present or former TSA employee; false report or scrubbed?


3 posted on 11/02/2013 1:54:37 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29

From the LONG article:

” The gunman was not a TSA officer and “never had been,” according to the union, the American Federation of Government Employees.”


4 posted on 11/02/2013 1:56:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

He must have been hanging out on Sarah Palin’s FB Page. (roll eyes)


5 posted on 11/02/2013 2:25:26 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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>> Anti-government sentiment may be motive for attack

An anarchist.


6 posted on 11/02/2013 2:25:33 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sounds to me like “anti-TSA” sentiment was more the motive for the attack.


7 posted on 11/02/2013 2:35:04 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
""There was no one directing anything," she said."

Lady, your gov't is just not that into you. 0bamaDontCare.

8 posted on 11/02/2013 2:36:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, then
Obviously the TSA needs to be armed, and there needs to be a campaign to identify and detain those 'anti government' types.
9 posted on 11/02/2013 2:48:52 AM PDT by Washi
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To: JaguarXKE; circlecity; Gene Eric; Paladin2; Washi; Truth29; hosepipe; All

“.........A law enforcement official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the person was not authorized to discuss the investigation publicly, said Ciancia was wearing fatigues and carrying a bag containing a one-page handwritten note that said he wanted to kill TSA employees and “pigs.”

The official said the rant refers to how Ciancia believed his constitutional rights were being violated by TSA searches and that he’s a “pissed-off patriot” upset at former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. The note and the gunman’s rifle each had an orange TSA inspection sticker on it.”.......

http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Gunman-kills-TSA-officer-at-LAX-wounds-2-others-4946916.php?cmpid=hpfc


10 posted on 11/02/2013 3:08:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Biggest crock of b.s. I’ve ever read. Anyone who believe this is a true story, is delusional. The government just CREATED it’s excuse for ‘arming’ yet another extension of the feds, while murdering and blaming a ‘conspiracy’, “NWO” patsy...anything to move his agenda for a ‘civilian’ army ‘forward. Sadly, AMERICANS keep getting murdered in the process.

Alleged LAX Shooter Paul Ciancia Carried Anti-Government Note

“The alleged Los Angeles International Airport gunman carried a note with him today that expressed anti-government sentiments and suggested he expected to die in an airport shootout, according to law enforcement sources.

The suspect has been identified by the FBI as Paul Ciancia, 23. He is believed to have homes in Los Angeles and Pennsville, N.J.

The note found at the scene ended with the letters “NWO,” according to law enforcement sources, which is believed to stand for “New World Order.” Law enforcement sources also said a large number of .223 caliber rounds were found at the airport.

Officers followed Ciancia to the rear of Los Angeles International Airport’s Terminal 3, where he was shot and taken into custody, according to Mayor Eric Garcetti.

David Bowdich of the FBI said Ciancia is receiving medical attention at a hospital.

Suspect’s Family Feared He Was Suicidal

Earlier today, Ciancia’s father contacted police in Pennsville, N.J., with the concern that his son may be suicidal, Chief Allen Cummings of the Pennsville Police Department told ABC News.

“Their younger child got a text message from Paul stating that there were some comments in there about his wellbeing and he wanted to possibly take his own life,” Cummings said.

Cummings said he called the LAPD today and asked for officers to “try to get a well-being check” on Ciancia.

Officers went to Ciancia’s apartment before the shooting and talked to his roommates, Cummings said.

Around the time of the shooting, LAPD officers called Cummings, unaware that Ciancia was the gunman, to let him know that they had satisfactorily completed the well-being check.

Authorities said they believe Ciancia acted alone, however they will investigate whether he has any ties to domestic terrorists.

Los Angeles World Airports Police Chief Patrick Gannon said the shooter was armed with an assault rifle, blasted his way past airport screeners and “got back very far into the terminal.” Gannon said the shooter initially opened fire before “proceeding up into the screening area” where he shot at TSA officers.

Police “tracked him through the airport... and engaged him in gunfire,” Gannon said, eventually taking him into custody.

One TSA officer was fatally wounded, while several others were hit by gunfire.”

http://gma.yahoo.com/alleged-lax-shooter-paul-ciancia-carried-anti-government-223428733—abc-news-topstories.html

LAX Shooting: My Dog Knows Better
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb1RLFq0rXg


11 posted on 11/02/2013 3:08:39 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Kimberly GG

Thanks for the “info.”

Check out Post #10.


12 posted on 11/02/2013 3:12:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Travis McGee
Authorities said they believe Ciancia acted alone, however they will investigate whether he has any ties to domestic terrorists.

Sound familiar?????

13 posted on 11/02/2013 3:20:41 AM PDT by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

From the partial contents of his note - more of which was released yesterday - I’d say he was more likely an anarchist or Occupy type. He was also quite crazy and apparently had been under treatment or perhaps even still was, and his father called the police just before the event because he thought his son was suicidal.

Some of those people (or probably most of them) are crazies who have channeled their lunacy into a political obsession. I was walking by a group of them camped out near a bank and financial headquarters on Broadway a couple of weeks ago and it was like walking by an open-air mental ward, with raving, shouting, and signs painted on ripped up cardboard decrying the “NWO,” among other things.

This, of course won’t get coverage. It interferes with the view of the radical left as flower children.

That said, I think there should be some review of TSA procedures (not arming them, because I wouldn’t trust most of them with a weapon). I have always thought that it was very hazardous to collect all the passengers in one spot, where they are not only unarmed and unprotected but especially vulnerable because they’re usually about half dressed at that point or are busy getting dressed or undressed. Thank God he was obsessed with the TSA, because if he had just fired upon the passengers, we’d have a huge body count.


14 posted on 11/02/2013 3:26:23 AM PDT by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
As soon as the MSM discovers he voted for Obama - or stood with "Occupy" - they'll switch to "he's mentally ill and all the people he knew liked him".

If FINALLY the liberal wet dream comes true - and it is a conservative (which I doubt) they'll build monuments to they victims, stay on the story for months, and paint every conservative with their broad brush.

If he's a liberal or Muslim the killing will have NOTHING to do with his beliefs. If he's conservative the killings were BECAUSE of his beliefs. Watch and see.

15 posted on 11/02/2013 3:30:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would say, “you can’t make this stuff up”, but clearly, they can, and do. Wonder how long it took them to plan this one. They will stop at NOTHING to move their agenda forward and they’re getting away with murder. Word to the wise...STAY AWAY FROM GOVERNMENT DRILL SITES!!

LAPD Chief Admits to Training For the Exact Scenario of the LAX Shooting Just 3 Weeks Ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYWY5LdJioQ

Mass shootings in America: A history, 1999 through 2013
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mass-shootings-central-american-history-article-1.1457514

As someone else pointed out ... Mass shootings in America break down like this: from Jan 2000 to Jan 2008 (the time Bush, a pro 2A president, was in office) there were 9 mass shootings,and from Jan 2008 to present (where we have Obama and the anti-gun left), there are currently 19! So, that’s 9 in 8 years....... vs. 19 in just 5!


16 posted on 11/02/2013 3:30:28 AM PDT by Kimberly GG ("Path to Citizenship" Amnesty candidates will NOT get my vote!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sounds like an OWS loser.


17 posted on 11/02/2013 3:31:43 AM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Gene Eric
The newspaper's only breathless about 'anti-government' if they can paint him 'conservative'.

If he's "Occupy' anti-government then he's 'mentally ill' and everyone he knows 'liked him' and he acted alone and no other liberal would ever act that way.

If he's conservative he's represents every other conservative in the country.

The MSM hates us.

18 posted on 11/02/2013 3:34:45 AM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: raybbr
Authorities said they believe Ciancia acted alone, however they will investigate whether he has any ties to domestic terrorists.

Sound familiar?????

If he's 'liberal' there will be NO connections - even if he's a member of ACORN and joined the Communist Party 2 years ago. It'll be 'move on' time.

If he's conservative every person he attended church with when he was 10 years old will be investigated. And a monument will be built for the victims at the airport.

19 posted on 11/02/2013 3:40:46 AM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: livius; GOPJ

Read LINKED excerpt in Post #10.


20 posted on 11/02/2013 3:54:06 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
From the article, he was a loner, bullied in high school, possibly suicidal.

Wonder if he was on psych drugs.

Can't imagine him at a Tea Party rally.

21 posted on 11/02/2013 3:56:55 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (-)
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To: GOPJ

The other thing that made me think he was an Occupy type was that he used the word “pigs” in his rants. Nobody has used that term for the cops since the 1970s - except OWS and its anarchist brethren. The group I saw in New York had some people yelling this at unfortunate NYPD officers who had drawn the miserable duty of watching them for the day, and a couple of the signs also bore messages about “the pigs.”


22 posted on 11/02/2013 3:58:26 AM PDT by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All reports in the first 3-5 days will likely be wrong. As w Sandy Hook.

I’m surprised they are not saying this guy is Ted Cruz’s brother, or the third Koch brother.


23 posted on 11/02/2013 3:59:29 AM PDT by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I also saw a story that he had tried to get a job with TSA (don’t know if that’s true). For decades we’ve dealt with random mayhem & violence from unassimilated minorities that had nothing to lose; this country had better brace itself for the same threat from a much larger white male population that has legal obstacles in place to bar them from higher education, jobs, and promotions...


24 posted on 11/02/2013 4:17:46 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: livius
You're right, it's an old liberal term of hatred ... picked up by younger hippie wannabees. The other 'tell' is the longer it takes the press to jump on the guy and totally condemn him the more likely he's a liberal. The press doesn't want to accidentally go after one of their own..
25 posted on 11/02/2013 4:21:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Thanks! I think it’s still pretty possible that he was an anarchist, though, at least in his sentiments. The terminology he used is exactly what they use, except for the “patriot” part. And they hate the government much more than any libertarian (generally lumped in with conservatives, although they usually aren’t).

He doesn’t seem to have had any connections with anyone, actually, and an earlier interview with a fellow classmate from high school said that as far as he could see, Ciancia went through the entire four years without saying a word to anybody. He’s definitely got mental problems, and I guess in his disturbed mind, he was attributing his internal problems to a political motive.

That said, Obama has created such an atmosphere of tension and fear that it is having a negative impact on everybody, and the mentally ill are very sensitive to their emotional environment and unrestrained in their reaction to it. Of course, if his self-defined motive was leftist/ anarchist, as it was in the case of the crazy Giffords shooter (who felt she and the others weren’t leftist enough), we’ll never hear about it.


26 posted on 11/02/2013 4:23:29 AM PDT by livius
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To: Kimberly GG

I think the view of “anti-governemnt” is changing, especially now with NSA and Obamacare. Rather than conservatives go on the defensive, we need to put the onus on them. Anti-government is not an extremist view, but now mainstream, thanks to Obozo. It’s his fault, not the extremist.


27 posted on 11/02/2013 4:23:30 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

For what it’s worth, looking at the voter roll, his father in NJ is a registered Democrat and his other relative in Pennsville (probably brother) is Unaffiliated.


28 posted on 11/02/2013 4:26:16 AM PDT by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Whenever there’s a killer the first thing the press jumps to is that they’ve finally got a conservative. The more them that goes by the less likely that’s true... It’s the ‘gold standard’ for the press and they want it soooooooo bad... Same for leftists who would do anything to be able to say ‘I told you so’... All the killers so far have been dems or Muslims but one of these days it’ll be one of ours... and when it is you’ll see the circus to end all circuses.


29 posted on 11/02/2013 4:37:23 AM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: Kimberly GG

“Go! Take your luggage with you!”

Funny video there, thanks.


30 posted on 11/02/2013 4:41:00 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Whose surprised??? anybody....anybody at all.....


31 posted on 11/02/2013 4:44:09 AM PDT by Farnsworth (Now playing in America: "Stupid is the new normal")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Well, I believe the government's account without any doubts.

After all, Paul CIAnCIA may have absolutely no internet footprint whatsoever, but that does not mean that he was a created identity.

Paul CIAnCIA may have been 23, and 23 year olds may participate in social media at nearly a 100% level, but just because this man has ZERO internet footprint -- no high-school mentions, no facebook, no myspace, no google+, no sporting mentions, no internet commenting on articles on the news articles of the day, even though he was so involved that he was willing to die to make a point -- this does NOT mean that the goverment has just flexed its Identity Management capabilities.

No no no.

Perish the thought.

32 posted on 11/02/2013 4:52:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: livius; GOPJ

I have the same sense of the use of that term, but we now have FReepers defending the use of the term as well:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3086551/posts?page=9#9

So I don’t know. Are we simply infested with trolls who just talk that way because they’re lefties and that’s how they talk, or are we simply taking up the term on our own?


33 posted on 11/02/2013 5:01:59 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We’ve had a “red scare”. Now get ready for a red, white and blue scare.


34 posted on 11/02/2013 5:03:51 AM PDT by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: livius
.....That said, Obama has created such an atmosphere of tension and fear that it is having a negative impact on everybody, and the mentally ill are very sensitive to their emotional environment and unrestrained in their reaction to it. Of course, if his self-defined motive was leftist/ anarchist, as it was in the case of the crazy Giffords shooter (who felt she and the others weren’t leftist enough), we’ll never hear about it......

Obama and Co. are poisoning civil discourse.

35 posted on 11/02/2013 5:15:01 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Springfield Reformer
I've wondered about the same things... I don't have an answer... It would seem that some of them would be trolls... and some might be responding to changes in how the image of law enforcement is being manipulated by liberal elites.

TSA and Homeland troops aren't real police officers. They lack most legal training beyond that given to security guards. That's a risk. The bar for being a modern police officer is high - as it should be... and even higher for an FBI agents. That's good. But image of professionalism is being watered down in the public's eyes by people in uniform who aren't professionals... or professionally trained.

Is it dangerous when people who really aren't really in law enforcement go around acting like they are? I think so. Police departments do what they can to get rid of bad apples... and screen to keep out people with authority issues. Is that happening with the 'look-a-likes'?

The public - people who don't know the difference between a police chief and a paid bank security guard - are painting all with a broad brush. Liberals are encouraging the problem... for reasons I don't quite understand. Seems they want to weaken the authority of real police officers while adding to the authority of security guard types. But again, for what purpose? And the public - and freepers - are responding to the blurring. Just seems nutty. (in short, I'm clueless on this one...)

36 posted on 11/02/2013 5:33:44 AM PDT by GOPJ (Show me just ONE example of an Islamic country where non Muslims are treated with equality.TimLee)
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To: Kimberly GG

QUESTION: Does the alleged NWO note really stand for New World Order? Or for Negroes With Obama?


37 posted on 11/02/2013 5:35:21 AM PDT by 2harddrive
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To: raybbr

I was thinking the same thing.

Obama’s approval numbers are down; it was time for a distraction. Obama had warned us that we may be at a place where mass shootings will happen every month or two. As long as he gets negative poll numbers every month or two, this stuff will just have to keep happening...


38 posted on 11/02/2013 5:43:27 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: livius

OWS or Muslim. Those people use that terminology.


39 posted on 11/02/2013 5:47:56 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Free online faxing at http://faxzero.com/ Fax all your elected officials. Make DC listen.)
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To: GOPJ

Fair enough. I hate them too.


40 posted on 11/02/2013 5:58:54 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
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41 posted on 11/02/2013 6:03:27 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: Kimberly GG
For what it's worth, I'm suspicious too. (#15)

Besides the fact that they say he 'expected to die' and 'send a suicidal text' yet was allegedly wearing ballistic armor.

42 posted on 11/02/2013 6:04:17 AM PDT by logi_cal869
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To: butterdezillion

Actually, I recalled that the OWS-influenced Snowden used the word “patriot” to describe himself, too.

We’ll have to see how the press spins it.


43 posted on 11/02/2013 6:09:40 AM PDT by livius
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I read he was concerned about The New World Order which is a concern on a much larger scale.


44 posted on 11/02/2013 6:11:18 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The shooter hated the TSA, so he has an excuse.


45 posted on 11/02/2013 6:15:12 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: raybbr

If he was anti Government, why did he go to LAX? Its not really a Government building.
He was prolly just some insane person with a death wish who went there hoping to go Suicide by cop.


46 posted on 11/02/2013 6:15:13 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: Washi

“TSA needs to be armed, and there needs to be a campaign to identify and detain those ‘anti government’ types.”

Probably already planned, and waiting for an incident like this.


47 posted on 11/02/2013 6:27:51 AM PDT by dynachrome (Vertrou in God en die Mauser)
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To: Washi

Obviously the TSA needs to be armed, and there needs to be a campaign to identify and detain those ‘anti government’ types.


“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008


What could possibly go wrong?


48 posted on 11/02/2013 6:29:48 AM PDT by OwenKellogg (Fundamental transformation sucks.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Let’s look at a possibility:

The kid is 23 — probably has no job and no prospect for one.

Being from a family of entitled Democrats he may have applied to numerous government agencies for employment without success.

His last best hope may have been a position with the TSA and though he may have gone through the interviewing process he may have been at last turned down.

He thus targets the TSA.


49 posted on 11/02/2013 6:39:51 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: livius

Good call and I believe you’re right. That stuck out to me too. Calling cops “pigs” is Alinsky, lefty talk.


50 posted on 11/02/2013 6:40:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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