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Carr: Call 911! EBT benefits get cut (Hussein's porkulus runs out)
Boston Herald ^ | 11/01/13 | Howie Carr

Posted on 11/02/2013 3:51:03 AM PDT by Libloather

**SNIP**

If you have any questions, dial 800-645-8333 on your Obamaphone.

There’s only one way to cope with this mean-spirited Republican attack on the leisure classes — get more EBT cards. You just go down to the welfare office and make a “self-declaration,” meaning nobody checks. That’s how come you read so often nowadays of illegals being pinched, and just before the traditional paragraph about the immigration detainer, you learn that the “dreamer” had two, or three, or even four EBT cards.

Poor Campeo Armando Diaz-
Carola, sentenced to eight years in prison earlier this week after being caught with a pound and a half of heroin. Just selling the skag Americans couldn’t be bothered selling. Obviously not much of a crook, because this illegal, I mean “dreamer,” was only carrying one EBT card.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benefits; carr; ebt; porkulus
“In November, most families will see their benefits decrease due to the end of the additional benefits provided by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (AARA), commonly known as the stimulus package."

Can't wait for Husseincare to do the very same thing.

1 posted on 11/02/2013 3:51:04 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

This posting is pretty offensive. He doesn’t really say anything of substance, besides ridiculing the SNAP program and the people on it. This guy is probably a good example of why people don’t like, or think they don’t like, conservatives. The fact is, there are a wide variety of people using the program, some more legitimately than others. Some are working, some are looking for work. Some are old. Some are disabled. And yes, some are scamming. Some retailers are conspiring with them to scam.
I’ve heard that the problem of illegals getting this and other government giveaways is actually grossly exaggerated. I don’t know. But it doesn’t serve the cause of fixing the immigration problem if we don’t have our facts straight. And it doesn’t serve any cause to call people names and perpetrate stereotypes. Is this country really so divided that we see each other in such dehumanizing terms? This is what the left does. We can do better.


2 posted on 11/02/2013 4:15:39 AM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: crazycatlady

Actually, I don’t find it offensive at all. I see SNAP recipients every day at my WalMart. Seventeen percent of the people in my county are on SNAP, 6000 of them.

I never see any of them that are underfed, I never see any of them that are underdressed unless you want to count the ones I see around 10 or 11AM still in their jammies and slippers. I hardly ever see things like rice, potatoes, canned or raw vegetables - hardly anything that you’d have to put in a pot/oven or cook. Mostly microwave packaged food and snacky items. Whenever I happen to be going out with them to the parking lot, they invariably get in a nicer car than mine and drive off home. I hear them talk among themselves and even with the cashier - the are PROUD of what they get, even boast. They treat that card like a Platinum Amex.

47 Million today are on SNAP - Obama has doubled up to that in 5 years! Verification in applications is virtually non-existent and fraud is rampant - just like in EITC. You know, we hear ‘cuts’ in SNAP and all sorts of crying, but the media NEVER tells you that SNAP is only one spoke in the entitlement wheel. Most of them are on disability, or TANF, or SECTION Housing, welfare Mommas are always on WICs, and all of them get a whopping big EITC check every year.

Putting the point of fraud and multiple entitlements aside, just because someone was too shortsighted in preparation for education, preparation (saving) for life’s unexpected problems, and so on, that is no reason their burden should be forcibly solved by the US Taxpayer. That is the job of Churches, Benevolent Organizations like Salvation Army, and family and friends.


3 posted on 11/02/2013 4:31:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: crazycatlady

” Some retailers are conspiring with them to scam.”

I had a renter who was apparently getting cash from reselling steaks she bought on her EBT. But when she moved out in the middle of August and the power was off for two weeks before I found out she’d left, she abandoned $100 worth of steaks in the refrigerator. She did take the several cases of beer, though.

Incidentally, there’s a chemical/bacteria mix that neutralizes the stink. You spray it on and the carrier evaporates. The bacteria eats the live agents you can’t see and the stink is all gone. Thirty bucks a gallon. I had to spray the whole place.


4 posted on 11/02/2013 4:36:51 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: crazycatlady
The fact is, there are a wide variety of people using the program

Yes - 48 MILLION people (1 in 7 Americans).

I am sorry, but that is an obscenity.

I support emergency assistance for the truly needy, but we are way, waaaay beyond that now. This is Bread and Circuses.

American is the second most obese nation on the planet, and many of our obese are Mexican illegals who are counted in the statistics.

MOST OBESE COUNTRIES ON EARTH
#1 Mexico (32.8%)
#2 United States (31.8%)

We are the only nation in history who has "poor, fat people."

The ENTIRE Food Stamp (SNAP) programs needs to be completely scrapped.

It is an $80 Billion a year kettle of fraud and abuse.

Here is what should replace it:

- Bring back the requirements (before Obama scrapped them) that you can only get food assistance for 3 months in 3 years

- Bring back the work requirements (again, that Obama scrapped)

- Eliminate the Obama guidelines that if you qualify for any Federal handout program, then you automatically qualify for Food Stamps

- Never, ever make the program a plastic ATM card again, ever; it should be coupons that you have to present, and to heck with the "stigma" of those using them. Stigma is necessary when you are taking someone else's money

- Tighten up the qualification requirements so that illegals cannot use the coupons

- Make it illegal again to use the coupons at any restaurant, fast food joint, or any establishment that also sells liquor or cigarettes

- Establish clear guidelines so that the coupons cannot be used for junk, fatty, or luxury items

5 posted on 11/02/2013 4:38:54 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: crazycatlady
"The fact is, there are a wide variety of people using the program, some more legitimately than others."

So you believe that a government program that is paid for by forcibly extorting money from one group of people so as to give food to another group of people is Okey Dokey?

Are you sure you are on the right site?

6 posted on 11/02/2013 4:41:45 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: crazycatlady
Think about this... poverty and unemployment are at all time highs. We have more homeless now than ever before. We are going to go bankrupt in the next 5 to 10 years if we do not reverse course. The EBT/SNAP system has an admitted level of corruption pegged at around 80 billion a year. Many say this is a low estimate.

I have people coming into my store with boxes of steaks and they are selling them for 1/2 the marked price... just purchased with one of their ebt cards... most have multiple obama phones. These people are mostly white, black and hispanic. I am speaking of my personal experience here. This is not about race.

In the past 5 years of obama, the Federal Government has spent 3.7 Trillion dollars on welfare (directly). Now go read my first sentence again.

It isn't working, we can no longer afford it and it is harming those people who truly need the help and are unable to help themselves. I think being worried about "feelings" and what people who are never going to vote for you any way... think of you... is waaaaaaaaaay down on the list of mandatory priorities. Spending is going to have to be slashed to save America... it is not going to be pretty or pleasant and riots may just happen... but no matter how we "feel"... we either save this republic or damn Earth to many years of darkness. Without us... the light will dim.

7 posted on 11/02/2013 4:46:56 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: crazycatlady

Visual evidence is compelling. A friend is a cashier at Krogers and she lives this joke. Food stamp recipients are pretty much all the same.......overweight, elaborate hair and nail designs, lots of bling, always on a cellphone, expensive food and at certain times of the month there are endless lines of them.


8 posted on 11/02/2013 4:59:38 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Libloather

When I visited Yellowstone, I saw recommendations not to feed the wildlife, along with explanations of why it is a bad idea. When they are fed, they lose the ability to forage for themselves and they become aggressive when they do not receive handouts. A wild animal that has become accustomed to handouts is far more dangerous than a wild animal that fends for itself.

It seems to me that these characteristics apply equally well to people who are conditioned to depend on handouts.


9 posted on 11/02/2013 5:06:52 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Libloather

“Sooner or later, you run out of other people’s money”

Cut the fraud and abuse. Period. I certainly recognize that many people need assistance..I’ve seen in and know several who’ve lost jobs, barely making it, trying to raise families. But there’s far too many straphangers abusing the system.


10 posted on 11/02/2013 5:11:52 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: crazycatlady
I’ve heard that the problem of illegals getting this and other government giveaways is actually grossly exaggerated.

Don't think so...crazycatlady

Are you a taxpayer ?

If you are...ANY fraud or scamming of our tax dollars should make you mad...

My educated guess is at least 20 % of people on some sort of government assistance are committing fraud...

Source you ask ? : Wife works at Wal-Mart...

She would tell you it's much higher...

11 posted on 11/02/2013 5:13:15 AM PDT by Popman
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To: SkyPilot

Add: If you receive any form of welfare, you are automatically disqualified to vote. On anything.


12 posted on 11/02/2013 5:14:40 AM PDT by Noumenon (What would Michael Collins do?)
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To: crazycatlady
This posting is pretty offensive. He doesn’t really say anything of substance, besides ridiculing the SNAP program and the people on it. This guy is probably a good example of why people don’t like, or think they don’t like, conservatives. The fact is, there are a wide variety of people using the program, some more legitimately than others. Some are working, some are looking for work. Some are old. Some are disabled. And yes, some are scamming. Some retailers are conspiring with them to scam.

I’ve heard that the problem of illegals getting this and other government giveaways is actually grossly exaggerated. I don’t know. But it doesn’t serve the cause of fixing the immigration problem if we don’t have our facts straight. And it doesn’t serve any cause to call people names and perpetrate stereotypes. Is this country really so divided that we see each other in such dehumanizing terms? This is what the left does. We can do better.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You obviously have never listened to Howie Carr and it appears you have no idea what is going on right before your very eyes.

13 posted on 11/02/2013 5:17:06 AM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: crazycatlady

Obviously there are some people that truly need help. But it isn’t one out if every seven people in the us. The conservative message should be we will eliminate fraud so that those that really need help will get it at a much lower cost to the taxpayers that pay for it.


14 posted on 11/02/2013 5:42:01 AM PDT by edzo4 (You call us the 'Party Of No', I call us the resistance.)
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To: crazycatlady
This posting is pretty offensive...

Offensive? I'll say it's offensive.I could tell you stories about the members of the "leisure class" (I *love* that term) that I met during my 20 year career at a large,big city hospital.A quick story from that hospital..a young woman,leisure class,several kids,no husband,medicaid card.She was in to have surgery to "tighten" her private area.Seems that after a couple of kids it needed it...according to the new boyfriend who insisted that this surgery be done so that he might "enjoy" himself more during his intimate moments with this breeding cow.The surgeon wrote that he advised the woman that the surgery was unnecessary but that she insisted on it because the *boyfriend* insisted on it.She had the surgery...courtesy of the taxpayers of Massachusetts and the United States.I *saw* this with my own eyes.And I saw lots,and lots,and lots,and *lots* of equally nauseating things connected to the "leisure class".

The fact is, there are a wide variety of people using the program, some more legitimately than others.

Very true.Some,IMO,truly need and deserve assistance and,therefore,I'd never support the elimination of certain "welfare" programs.But I will,until the day I die,demand that at least half of those in this country receiving this $$$ be cut off completely....the half that have,with the encouragement and assistance of the modern Rat Party,chosen welfare as their career.

15 posted on 11/02/2013 5:44:31 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: crazycatlady

Actually, I do know some people who are disabled and cannot get SNAP cards cause they get social security, so yes I call the vast number who get SNAP what they are-parasites, ticks, and deadbeats.

Yes, some are legitimately using the program, but many are gaming the system for free stuff. 41,000,000+ people are on the program. Don’t tell me most are legitimate.


16 posted on 11/02/2013 5:44:49 AM PDT by packrat35 (Pelosi is only on loan to the world from Satan. Hopefully he will soon want his baby killer back)
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To: crazycatlady
Just one more quick comment...I took a peek at your profile and see that you have arthritis.The hospital for which I worked is considered to be the world's leading hospital for the treatment of arthritis...along with many other things (it's in Boston).As a result I know how disabling arthritis can be,having seen it up close and personal.So *you*,IMO,are one of the people who I'd support getting government help if you needed it.We shouldn't *eliminate* various welfare programs...just restrict them to those who really need and deserve them.
17 posted on 11/02/2013 5:52:52 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Osama Obama Care: A Religion That Will Have You On Your Knees!)
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To: crazycatlady
"I've heard that the problem of illegals getting this and other giveaways is grossly exaggerated..."

Why should any non-citizens get government freebies of any kind? If these non-citizens (legal or illegal) can't support themselves in the US, it destroys the argument that their presence in the US is necessary.

The "prize" for a non-citizen applying for benefits of any kind should be a one way ticket home.

18 posted on 11/02/2013 5:54:59 AM PDT by grania
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To: Libloather

The Porkulus was supposed to be the panacea for all ills, the most wonderful thing to stimulate the economy, and THE thing to fix everything. So I guess THAT was a failure, too. Way to go Barry!


19 posted on 11/02/2013 6:31:58 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Gay State Conservative
We shouldn't *eliminate* various welfare programs...just restrict them to those who really need and deserve them.

Only a welfare scammer (or a politician) could argue with that logic. At present, the system is functioning largely as a taxpayer funded cash transfer from the "ruling class" to the "leisure class". Deadbeats, scammers and illegals (including Muslim terrorists such as the Tsarnaevs) shouldn't be swilling from the public trough, period.

Btw, that woman having the elective surgery on her private parts at taxpayer expense is just plain gross. The way the state squeezes hard-working taxpayers (including young kids working part-time to save for school, and families struggling to put bread on the table) for every possible penny and wastes it in such noxious ways is utterly immoral.

20 posted on 11/02/2013 6:42:30 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: crazycatlady

The fact that Illegal Aliens being called “immigrants” offends me...being an immigrant

I find nothing offensive with being honest.

Every illegal alien is a criminal...their mere presence my entering and/or staying here illegally is a crime. They, and their supports, actively support criminal activity

And, even more disgusting, some of these groups use racist names...like La Raza (The Race in Spanish). Some of these pro-illegal alien groups are outright racist and seditious

Its time to stop being concerned with the feelings of Illegal Aliens. Be more concerned with the lives of honest American citizens.


21 posted on 11/02/2013 7:05:19 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Fact Is: GOPe want ObamaCare.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Please explain how anyone “deserves” to receive money taken by force from another. I assume you would balance your ledger by saying that I “deserve” to have my money taken.

To each according to his needs and from each according to his abilities, eh comrade?


22 posted on 11/02/2013 7:10:44 AM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: Mad Dawgg
So you believe that a government program that is paid for by forcibly extorting money from one group of people so as to give food to another group of people is Okey Dokey?

That is the correct answer. Other than from a moral stand point, should I be obligated to supply anyone elses "needs"

Nobody is "worthy" enough to have gov steal from me to provide for them and before anybody starts with the flames, they have no idea what I give to those I deem "needy". I do it voluntarily and could do even more, if the government would quit picking my pocket.

23 posted on 11/02/2013 7:13:40 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Libloather

Based on reported numbers, the cut is only 6% of the total to the individual.

$636 given, $36 reduction = only 5.6% reduction

Trivial except to the politicians that crowed about implementing it as stimulous


24 posted on 11/02/2013 7:20:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: exDemMom

The animals of which you speak are best described as ferals


25 posted on 11/02/2013 7:23:50 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: bert

When I and my cousins grew up in the SW, and my future in laws grew up in the Midwest, most of the males became good hunters.

Most of us were invited to hunt by the owners, ranchers, farmers and farmers in name because of the reputations of our older relatives/hunters.

Besides the normal safety requirements most of the land owners asked us to do one simple action. Shoot the stray animals we saw and to notify the property owners where we shot the strays, so they could bury them.

This was a system that worked well for the land owners and hunters. There was little if any need for an animal control officer outside the city limits.

Now we have feral dogs roaming cities like E St. Louis, Detroit and parts of LA county at night and day time.

Unfortunately, many of the so called humans in these areas could be labeled as feral.


26 posted on 11/02/2013 8:00:44 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( "With Obamascare you can die for your country without leaving home.")
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To: edzo4

“The conservative message should be we will eliminate fraud so that those that really need help will get it at a much lower cost to the taxpayers that pay for it.”

True. The incremental approach has served the left well, and we should use it.


27 posted on 11/02/2013 8:08:39 AM PDT by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: crazycatlady

A majority of illegals are on some kind of government dole—I don’t know how much one can exaggerate that.

Absolutely nobody sees those on SNAP buying the low-cost beans, rice, cabbage, low-cost meats, eggs, etc., that many of the working poor or temporarily unemployed go for rather than have their fellow Americans pay for more luxurious meals.

Howie Carr is writing in MA where the Democrat encouraged, supported and protected abuses are legendary—and true.

Full SNAP benefits even after the cuts from ‘stimulus’ levels are for more than what many people in a pinch get by on on their own.

The simple truth is that unless people make $12 to $25 an hour, depending upon their circumstances or where they live, they are better off not working at all, working part-time, or working for less than they could be making in order to get all the Section 8, fuel assistance, Obamaphones, welfare, SNAP, free healthcare, etc., etc., that the system otherwise pays them.


28 posted on 11/02/2013 8:13:17 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Grampa Dave

I grew up on a farm that welcomed certain hunters, but we never encouraged or would have permitted the shooting of what could be someone’s pets on the loose.

This entire region (the Northeast) is a regular importer of shelter animals from the South and the Midwest, where simple standards of neutering pets are regularly ignored and feral populations thus thrive.


29 posted on 11/02/2013 8:17:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: SkyPilot
Set of Beanbag chairs alert.....


30 posted on 11/02/2013 8:29:10 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: SkyPilot
...any establishment that also sells liquor or cigarettes

That excludes every grocery store I remember ever being in.

31 posted on 11/02/2013 6:15:33 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Gaffer

It’s easier than EVER!!

http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/EITC-Home-Page—It%E2%80%99s-easier-than-ever-to-find-out-if-you-qualify-for-EITC


32 posted on 11/02/2013 7:27:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SkyPilot

“NO!” to all your suggestions.

Open a soup kitchen in every block if need be.

The lazy jerks can work in it to feed their neighbors and themselves.


33 posted on 11/02/2013 7:30:21 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: edzo4

Sorry; but ANY conservative ‘message’ will be TOTALLY destroyed by the media!


34 posted on 11/02/2013 7:32:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: grania
The "prize" for a non-citizen applying for benefits of any kind should be a one way ticket home. ANYwhere else!!!
35 posted on 11/02/2013 7:33:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: exDemMom

Bravo! Excellent analogy.


36 posted on 11/03/2013 1:31:36 AM PST by Gaffer
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