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Oliver North says Republicans 'complicit' in letting intelligence services 'trod on' 4th Amendment
AL.com ^ | November 1, 2013 | Lee Roop

Posted on 11/02/2013 11:03:35 AM PDT by jazusamo

HUNTSVILLE, Alabama - Retired Marine colonel and Iran-Contra figure Oliver North said in Huntsville Friday that that he is "deeply concerned" about the data being collected on American citizens by American intelligence agencies.

"I think the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution has been trod on," North told a press conference before addressing a crowd of 350 at a young Republicans' dinner at the Davidson Center for Space Technology. North added that "the Republicans in Congress are complicit by not insisting on a select committee to investigate not just NSA, but Benghazi, the IRS, the spying on Americans, enemies' lists being compiled."

"I think all of that would be worthy of a select committee," North said, "and I think I know a little something about select committees."

North, 70, rose to national prominence in the late 1980s as a staff member attached to the National Security Council during the political scandal called the Iran-Contra Affair. The United States covertly sold arms to Iran in an attempt to free hostages held in Beirut, Lebanon, and North helped transfer the proceeds to Contra rebels fighting the regime in Nicaragua in violation of a congressional edict. He was charged and convicted of several felonies after testifying to a select congressional committee, but the convictions were later vacated by a court because of improper prosecution methods.

North told reporters that a grim fate awaits Edward Snowden, the former CIA employee and National Security Agency contractor who leaked secret documents about American intelligence gathering methods to the press earlier this year. Snowden is now in Russia under political asylum.

North said the continuing leaks are "the inevitable consequence of an enormous failure of diplomacy in getting Mr. Snowden to come back to the United States before he got in the hands of the Russian intelligence service."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; 4thamendment; benghazi; gop; irs; nsa; olivernorth; russia; snowden; surveillance

1 posted on 11/02/2013 11:03:35 AM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 11/02/2013 11:05:22 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

I assume America is one or two years away from becoming a total Stalinist-type state.


3 posted on 11/02/2013 11:06:18 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: jazusamo

Damn skippy. Both parties are to blame for this crap. Everyone, and I mean everyone who has supported the Patriot Act is to blame for this. The Patriot Act opened the door to the NSA allowing them to do what ever the hell they want.


4 posted on 11/02/2013 11:08:44 AM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t see it quite that way. I see that the obamists are damaging our intel capabilities to go after the baddies while using those same capabilities to go after their political enemies and our supposed allies (which are their political enemies).


5 posted on 11/02/2013 11:13:28 AM PDT by marron
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To: CMB_polarization

I wish I were that optimistic.


6 posted on 11/02/2013 11:15:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: jazusamo

bttt

We all may be working for this man in the not too distant future. I love him.


7 posted on 11/02/2013 11:16:36 AM PDT by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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To: marron

Good point, for sure this administration has greatly abused intel for that reason but I believe that’s all the more reason for Republicans to put a stop to it.


8 posted on 11/02/2013 11:19:17 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: CMB_polarization
I assume America is one or two years away from becoming a total Stalinist-type state.

No, I'd say about twenty years away. It happened back in the 1990s. We just didn't care.

9 posted on 11/02/2013 11:22:23 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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10 posted on 11/02/2013 11:24:08 AM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

The GOP has lost its way. It no longer has any ideology except self prservation for the leadership.


11 posted on 11/02/2013 11:25:14 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Once an intelligence service like the NSA becomes all powerful, it is hard to go back. Think Romania and Ceaușescu. Even a phase like "defund the NSA" will be flagged and my identity tracked. I understand this. It was nice knowing you, folks.
12 posted on 11/02/2013 11:25:16 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: Forgotten Amendments

The roots of the financial system that this all led to belong to Woodrow Wilson’s era.


13 posted on 11/02/2013 11:26:56 AM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: jazusamo

They’re complicit in all of this especially Benghazi Cornyn et al


14 posted on 11/02/2013 11:29:21 AM PDT by stanne
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To: jazusamo

The funding for the intelligence agencies falls under the category of funding national defense, so Republicans in general want it and Democrats love the power it gives them. Both sides fund massive intrusions into our lives at a cost of over $100 billion, so when people talk about the national defense budget, they are including these massive black programs that illegally spy on Americans.


15 posted on 11/02/2013 11:30:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: jazusamo

Just a grammar nit, but “trod” is past tense of “tread.” The usage in the quote is akin to saying “He gave his son permission to went on the road trip.”


16 posted on 11/02/2013 11:38:25 AM PDT by IronJack (=)
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To: jazusamo

There’s an old speech of Ollie’s from his ‘94 campaign that may still exist on TOWNHALL.com . He was quite the civil libertarian.

Then, he fell into the talk radio / FNC universe and spouted the Bushbot line for 15 years and I never heard him like that again. Until this. Good for him!


17 posted on 11/02/2013 11:39:04 AM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: jazusamo

Well, yes, Col, you are correct. The GOP has abdicated their responsibilities. Clearly, the collection of private data from a business, without indicating the target of the search, based on probable cause, is unconstitutional.

I don’t understand why the GOP can’t make this simple argument. There is no due process.


18 posted on 11/02/2013 11:47:12 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: IronJack
Indeed! And I think he was pulling his punch by using passive voice, instead of saying that "(fill in appropriate names) have trodden on the Fourth Amendment."



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

19 posted on 11/02/2013 11:47:50 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: CMB_polarization

At which time you’ll need weapons.

And I’m afraid the old bullet stuff just isn’t going to be enough.


20 posted on 11/02/2013 11:54:02 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: jazusamo
North added that "the Republicans in Congress are complicit by not insisting on a select committee to investigate not just NSA, but Benghazi, the IRS, the spying on Americans, enemies' lists being compiled."

I second that! The failure of the leadership of the Republican Party to mount an effective opposition to the treasonous agenda of the Obama Regime is a major reason I cut myself loose from that bunch of dickless wimps.



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

21 posted on 11/02/2013 11:54:56 AM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN - 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: ConorMacNessa; All
Amen to that, FRiend. Here's an article I just posted that may get something going in Congress.

Gun rights groups go after NSA

22 posted on 11/02/2013 12:05:51 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: jazusamo

With government, you get what you settle for. If you do not want surveillance stand up and holler “NO”

If you think Benghazi silence is a conspiracy stand up and demand your congress-pig investigate.

If you think obama has committed high crimes aginst the people / Constitution citizenship demands you stand up and tell your elected representatives you want Him impeached and removed. UNLESS YOU DEMAND OF THE POLITICIANS WHAT YOU WANT, THEY WILL DO NOTHING EXCEPT CONTINUE TO IGNORE WHAT SHOULD BE DONE AND ACCEPT MONEY FROM CORRUPT CONTRIBUTORS.


23 posted on 11/02/2013 12:16:36 PM PDT by Rapscallion (What he calls "transforming" is actually destroying.)
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To: sean327
-- The Patriot Act opened the door to the NSA allowing them to do what ever the hell they want. --

The snooping was going on long before the USA Patriot Act. The government has been caught before, and Congress makes a big fuss and passes some laws that appear to curtail the power of the government to snoop. FISA, for example, was passed in 1977 as a reaction to the Church Committee report, and COINTELPRO.

Heck, SCOTUS, the first time it handled a phone call case, held that phone calls are OUTSIDE of 4th amendment privacy. Congress passed a statute to make snooping on phones a crime, and since then, the Courts have sort of found a right to privacy in phone calls.

The disincentives to snooping without a warrant are hollow. There is no legal penalty to the government (well, there is "on paper," but not in fact, as long as the government asserts "state secret"), leaving only the risk of negative public reaction if/when a snooping incident is disclosed.

And the cycle repeats. Negative public reaction is met with hollow outrage from Congress and a promise to not snoop anymore. It's all a show. You can bet the government snoops "as much as it can" (which is a physical/practical limitation, not a legal one). The government does not trust the public. Simple as pie.

24 posted on 11/02/2013 12:21:02 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Forgotten Amendments

It’s nice to see him finally get some brains and realize the republicans are as complicit as the democrats are.


25 posted on 11/02/2013 2:08:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: jazusamo

Ollie is right.


26 posted on 11/02/2013 2:18:33 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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This fiasco is the fault of Congress.


27 posted on 11/26/2013 12:50:32 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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