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Obamacare Schadenfreude
Townhall.com ^ | November 3, 2013 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 11/03/2013 7:52:11 AM PST by Kaslin

As a civilized person, you know in your mind that you should not derive pleasure from the pain of others. But periodically it is simply appropriate to do so. That is why the word “schadenfreude” exists. That is what some of us feel about the spectacle of Obamacare unfolding before our eyes.

So you don’t have to go running to a dictionary, scha•den•freu•de is a delicious word of German derivation. It technically means a feeling of enjoyment that comes from seeing or hearing about the troubles of other people. But in reality it means so much more. And though some may think it is unbecoming (as our President has said about Republicans in his attempt to change the focus from his failings), to be transpicuous: we are relishing this moment and we have no regrets.

President Obama has provided so many points of justification they cannot totally be enumerated. It started with his arrogant and demeaning comment to Congressman Eric Cantor (R-VA and now Majority Leader) that elections have consequences. In other words, I don’t care to hear your opinion. It can be that his signature law was passed with no Republican support and little support from the American public. It could be his lies about people being able to keep their doctor when the plans on the Healthcare.Gov website restrict the usage of doctors and hospitals. It could be his lie about how the average family was going to save $2,500 per year when every study shows most people will be paying significantly more for their premiums, not including their vastly-increased deductibles. Or maybe the lie about how people were going to be able to keep their insurance plans. Then his shock troops write regulations causing somewhere between 50% and 100% of 19 million Americans who have individual insurance plans to be cancelled because the plan they have does not meet the new requirements.

There is the lie of the rolled-out benefits. Sure, we are going to give you everything you want and it will not cost a thing. You can cover your children who cannot find a job in the Obama economy until they turn 27 years old. Women can have all the free contraception and tests they want – no cost. Pre-existing conditions: we will cover those like magic. Lifetime caps on your medical coverage magically gone. And because I am the Great Obama, you are not going to pay a dime extra Americans. Of course, until you are 27 years old, you must buy insurance you don’t want or need and pay twice as much as you would if none of these promises were made. Americans are finding out the old rule still applies: you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

And then there is Queen Kathleen (Sebelius) who has been endowed by her creator (Obama) with arrogance beyond what normal humans can endure. She has exempted her friends (mainly unions) from the rules of Obamacare because she is the omnipotent. Then, when she rolls out her failed website, she tells America it was because she only had three-and-a-half years (and now an estimated $1 billion of OPM) to create it. Poor Queenie says she needed five years to create it and a year to test it. But did you hear from Queenie when Republicans were suggesting a full-on delay of the law? No, because she says “There are people in this country who have waited decades for affordable health care coverage.” Sounds like she was on a mission from God, but it would be so passé for a leftist to invoke the name of the Heavenly Father.

Now she is telling Americans to forget that stupid website. You can call us. Since everyone agrees the entire plan hinges on young adults signing up, someone should inform Queenie they don’t make phone calls. In her little bubble she does not know every mobile phone company changed their pricing plans because her targeted fools use data (texting) and not live calls. You ask a young adult if they spoke to someone and they will tell they have, but what they actually did was exchange texts or tweets. And Queenie wants them to hang on the phone for hours to speak to one of her operators who must fill in the information on the exact same website that does not work in the first place. Or she suggests you can make application my mail. We mercifully resist even touching that one. There was a time when people like Queen Kathleen would resign for the good of the country, but that has become a quaint, antiquated custom.

Why would we after all this be experiencing schadenfreude? After they excoriated anyone who even suggested that this might not work. After the Republicans during the budget fight came with a final offer to delay the individual mandate for a year and get rid of the insipid medical device tax which is destroying the industry in America and has bipartisan support. No, “we will not negotiate” with terrorist and thugs. Those Tea Party people are just KKK members in different robes.

So when we are sitting on our couches watching the mainstream press finally do its job, using words like “debacle” and “disaster” to describe the rollout, how can we not chuckle? When experts say that it is not possible to reconstruct the website by November 30th, what does it mean when the new Czar (Jeff Zients) tells us the website will be working for most people by then? Does that mean if you are a Cardinals fan it will work and if you are a Red Sox fans it will not? When the President loses Ezra Klein of the Washington Post, he has lost the country.

Tell us truthfully: are you not sitting with a grin on your face thinking it could not have happened to a nicer group of people?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: 0bamacaretrainwreck; abortion; deathpanels; kathleensebelius; obamacare; unaffordablecareact; zerocare

1 posted on 11/03/2013 7:52:11 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

It may be fun to watch. I hope it continues right up to Nov 2016.

But I continue to have this fear that most Obama/Democrat voters will skate past the problems of Obamacare via waivers, subsidies, and medicaid.


2 posted on 11/03/2013 7:54:46 AM PST by nascarnation (Frequently wrong but rarely in doubt....)
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To: nascarnation

I was watching something last night on Fox News, I might have recorded, but it was about a young woman who had voted for 0bama and who was complaining because her health insurance cost was going up with 0bamcare. My thought was it serves her right, she voted for him


3 posted on 11/03/2013 8:04:10 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: nascarnation
We
Do
Not
Need
Everybody

Please stop being so negative. Your job as an outspoken conservative at this point in history should be to inspire the Conservative troops and discourage OBAMA VOTERS!

If even 5% of those who voted for Obama change their minds, and Vote Conservative Republican, we win big!

You have posted DOWNER, DEPRESSING posts over and over again.

I am asking you to stop it. You are not helping the cause. You can be completely honest and still advance the ball for conservatives.

4 posted on 11/03/2013 8:06:53 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kaslin
Remember the outrage of the left at Michael Brown and FEMA because of hurricane Katrina in NOLA.

He lost his job over things he had no control over.

Obama and his cronies show levels of ineptitude that are unexplainable and the left circles the wagons.

5 posted on 11/03/2013 8:07:45 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: Kaslin

Obamacare is hitting the young people hardest. And who are the biggest consumers in our country? The young people. Yes, Obamacare will be great for the economy. Great for killing it.


6 posted on 11/03/2013 8:10:03 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Kaslin

7 posted on 11/03/2013 8:16:36 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Kaslin
well according the Senator Stuart Smiley...... everythings Just Peachy!




8 posted on 11/03/2013 8:18:21 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Kaslin

I loved a photo I saw on Twitter yesterday, a State Senator from TN in Memphis with Queenie Sebelius giving her a copy of Websites For Dummies.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words.

In this case I believe it is worth about six hundred million words. Perhaps even the LIV can understand that photo.


9 posted on 11/03/2013 8:18:25 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: JPG
OH OH.....ya know ive been on that site twice and both times it crashed my browser...




10 posted on 11/03/2013 8:19:16 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: Qwackertoo
You mean this one?


11 posted on 11/03/2013 8:22:48 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s the problem for us:

Hillary will run as the ultra competent, caring WOMAN who can fix Obamacare, while looking out for the little guy. The media will sell it hard, and American morons will buy it.

Republicans are fractured, with the GOPe not so secretly rooting for Obamacare to survive.

The troubles will continue until the damage is beyond repair.


12 posted on 11/03/2013 8:28:42 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Kaslin

"YOU VILL OBEY ALL COMMANZ!"

13 posted on 11/03/2013 8:33:17 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Kaslin

The end run is that they crush the industry
Eventually, the hospitals collapse. Doctors retire, move on.

This way, it’s fair. No capitalist pig can get heart surgery. This is their happy outcome.


14 posted on 11/03/2013 8:35:54 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: Kansas58

what are you saying to nascarnation exactly genius

that was really rude of you

that comment he posted was not negative, it was true

the young idiots did vote for obama

becuz he was kewl, doncha know

nascarnation can say whatever he wants

who are you and what part of Kansas are you from

you sound like you are from Lawrence, I’ve never seen you on here before


15 posted on 11/03/2013 8:36:59 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: brownsfan
Once the 'War on Women' signs get dusted off and put to use, it's over AGAIN for the Republicans. THIS IS WHY THE GOP MUST RUN SARAH PALIN AS THE NOMINEE. This is the ONLY way to undermine the 'War on Women' tsunami that is about to trample the GOP AGAIN.

I am right about this. No other political tactic can trump the female mass catharsis hysteria derived from the 'War on Women' strategy. THE DEMS KNOW THIS TOO!

16 posted on 11/03/2013 8:38:01 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: yldstrk
I like most of the links that nasc posts.
However, he has posted comments DOZENS of times which are depressing and full of despair.
I made a friendly request. I am free to do so.
I did not insult him, yet YOU insult me?
I have done far more for the Conservative cause than you could ever dream to accomplish.
I frankly do not care about your opinion very much. The very fact that you have never noticed me before proves that YOU are not very active, politically or on FR.
17 posted on 11/03/2013 8:40:18 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

Wow, Kansas58.. I don’t see much of anything good happening in my country right now. FR is the place we can vent our frustrations. You get arrested for doing so in public now.


18 posted on 11/03/2013 8:41:56 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Kaslin

Yep that is the one. She looks kinda angry. Like she did every time an R questioned her at the hearing last week.


19 posted on 11/03/2013 8:43:22 AM PST by Qwackertoo (Going into Politic Free Zone Momma Grizzly hibernation for a while after this week, maybe forever.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

You’re right about the war on women. I was at a party seated at a table with a guy I didn’t know. He was a nice enough fellow, but felt compelled to reveal he is a Democrat. He spewed the talking points about the Republicans self destructing with the war on women, and the shutdown. It was clear to me he was beyond reason, being fed by the media.

I’m not sure Palin is the right one, she’s sustained serious damage from the media. But, I think you’re right about a woman nominee in 2016.


20 posted on 11/03/2013 8:45:56 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Kansas58

Hey I am not very active politically, but it is not for lack of trying

Nope, never noticed ya, but I have been on here forever, daily, and the fact you haven’t noticed me puts the lie to assertion

and yes, we are in despair

the country has been taken over by people who hate people and the “Republicans” are part of the depravity

In Kansas, I went to the elephant club lunch and said I was looking for conservatives and was coldly informed that they were Republicans. I can’t find more than one or two conservative, even in my Catholic church.

If you know where they are, pray tell before it’s too late. Everybody these days wants to be “popular” AND “kewl” and “forward thinking” and “leaning in”. What tripe— makes me want to throw up.

Nonetheless, leave nascarnation alone. His comment was true, not negative.


21 posted on 11/03/2013 8:46:17 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Qwackertoo

I’m sure after she was informed of what the title said, she was a bit miffed.


22 posted on 11/03/2013 8:46:27 AM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/ ?s)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Understood.
Please read my profile.
Been there.
Done that.

I know this is hard, but lets stop it with the hand ringing. Even if we lose, I want to take out (politically) as many of these egotistical Leftists as we can in this battle.

DESTROY the ENEMY! That is what we need to focus upon!


23 posted on 11/03/2013 8:46:28 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kaslin

A picture is worth a thousand words


24 posted on 11/03/2013 8:47:43 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Kaslin

why is Simple Sibelius dressed as a soldier


25 posted on 11/03/2013 8:48:57 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk
My comment was also true, and I will continue to get upset when depressing “we cant win” nonsense is posted here.

Leave me alone
or don't
I don't care.

But don't tell me that I have no right to my opinion, about the opinions and posts of others ok?

26 posted on 11/03/2013 8:49:45 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Pay attention man, this fake war on women is losing steam and regardless of how they trot it out with that hag hillary, it’s doomed.

Tell me, what exactly do you admire about Gov. Palin? I’m curious.


27 posted on 11/03/2013 8:53:06 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Kansas58

I’m with you Kansas, enough of the doom and gloom crap.
It’s time to focus and fight.

Getting caught in the morass of ‘we can’t fight this or that’ is defeating and useless.


28 posted on 11/03/2013 8:56:18 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: CivilWarBrewing

You’re half right. I know Sarah is very popular here but not so much with the public.She won’t ever be president. That said we cannot afford anymore Akins or Santorums. Unless the RNC figures out a disciplined well tuned message to single woman we could permanently lose that voting block. And that’s not good. They come out and vote in the general.


29 posted on 11/03/2013 8:56:28 AM PST by Blackirish
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To: Kaslin
The whole website debacle is funny to watch; however, I don't think it will fix the deeply embedded “stupid” that most of the country has embraced. Today in the St. Paul Paper, a woman wrote in and blamed the whole website and health mess on the Republicans.
Her erratic thought process included the idea that since the Republicans have done nothing to fix a bill they didn't vote for, knew wouldn't work and didn't want—they owned the mess it created once it became a law.
That is what we are dealing with folks—at least in Minnesota home of Sen. Al Franken. Now (as Paul Harvey used to say) you know the rest of the story.
God help us.
30 posted on 11/03/2013 9:09:23 AM PST by adgirl
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To: AllAmericanGirl44

Thanks!
I do not understand why defeatists want to even follow politics.
Take up knitting or gardening or do more fishing or golf or spend more time with family and friends.
Why spend so much time reading and posting if you think there is no point to it all?

The Left is counting on the Right to give up. Those on our side who do not want to fight are a bit odd, as they don’t mind fighting with those on the Right who do want to fight. They fight about our willingness to attempt victory.


31 posted on 11/03/2013 9:12:08 AM PST by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

On the random days that I do feel defeated, I stay off the boards. There is zero value in spreading the ‘I give up’ mantra. It annoys the crap out of me and I too have called others out on it, on occasion. It’s that idiotic circular firing thing that burns me up! I’ll stand by you and fight along with you ~


32 posted on 11/03/2013 9:25:21 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: Kansas58

EACH AND EVERY liberal Obama voter who has been screwed by this, and other actions of the last five(+) years has permitted them a small window of opportunity to learn and understand the conservative viewpoint. They shouldn’t be laughed at. They actually have something like Stockholm Syndrome.

A Liberal is really a conservative who isn’t a victim or doesn’t realize that they have become a victim (yet).


33 posted on 11/03/2013 10:29:28 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Kaslin

From the article...
Tell us truthfully: are you not sitting with a grin on your face thinking it could not have happened to a nicer group of people?


I am.

Except for thefact that they’re going to take everything down with them


34 posted on 11/03/2013 10:43:32 AM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and Bleeding hearts will only cry out for more"...Anthem from Rush)
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To: Kaslin

I have to say that i am highly amused at how this is going for Obama and co.

anyone who has had any exposure to big or even medium IT projects knows how easily they can go off the rails

for IT projects larger than $10 million, 95% exceed budget and/or don’t perform to spec, and 40% are outright failures that are scrapped (with public sector projects having a higher failure rate than the average)

http://www.informationweek.com/global-cio/interviews/why-do-big-it-projects-fail-so-often/240163186?cid=RSSfeed_IWK_ALL

there was never much doubt how the ACA system as a whole would turn out, and once they actually get the website up and running, and large numbers start to apply, they are going to actually perform the “volume” test that was not done before launch, and find a whole bunch more problems that are not going to be solvable in a month or even a year...

the new supposed saviour for Obamacare (Jeffrey Zeints) has no documented experience in leading large scale IT projects. I looked it up, but i didn’t need to. His statement that we will be up and running by Nov 30 shows he is clueless.

Even if all the changes were ready to go today, one month would not be long enough to properly test such a complicated system.

I think we are watching something big here, something consequential.

This isn’t just a big budget IT failure like the Air Force supply chain software, or the FBI case files.

It’s a liberal President’s core “achievement” and a supposed demonstration project for how government can improve people’s lives: and it’s going down in flames.


35 posted on 11/03/2013 11:32:58 AM PST by Reverend Wright (1990 Budget Agreement: learn from other's mistakes)
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To: Reverend Wright

“It’s a liberal President’s core “achievement” and a supposed demonstration project for how government can improve people’s lives: and it’s going down in flames.”

I am also hoping for this. It’s going to be an expensive lesson and there will be casualties (the people who are getting creamed by health care costs or the fools who “go bareback” and then are faced with bankruptcy), but I don’t think that it will be forgotten by the public until at least my family and I are out of the picture.


36 posted on 11/03/2013 11:36:41 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie

the destructive fallout to liberalism/big government: it doesn’t stop when the democrats give up and scrap or indefinitely delay the ACA.

millions of policies will be cancelled before that happens. All the insurance co’s have reprogrammed their systems to deal with the legal requirements of obamacare. the old policies are gone, they are not coming back

that’s why Shaheen, Landrieu wanting to grandfather existing plans will not work - it’s like trying to force GM to start selling Pontiac’s again.

for IT projects, you do not cancel the existing the existing system until the new is up and running.

Obama and co broke that basic rule, and they and millions of individual policy holders are going to find out the consequences of that on Jan 1, 2014.


37 posted on 11/03/2013 12:17:44 PM PST by Reverend Wright (1990 Budget Agreement: learn from other's mistakes)
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To: Kaslin
So you don’t have to go running to a dictionary, scha•den•freu•de is a delicious word of German derivation.

The English version of the word is todyaso. It's usually followed by the word dipstick.

38 posted on 11/03/2013 12:22:15 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Kaslin

“As a civilized person, you know in your mind that you should not derive pleasure from the pain of others. But periodically it is simply appropriate to do so. That is why the word “schadenfreude” exists.”

Forget the substantive parts of the article — give the writer props for knowing the meaning of “schadenfreude”.


39 posted on 11/03/2013 12:25:02 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Reverend Wright
for IT projects, you do not cancel the existing the existing system until the new is up and running.

I had a nationally recognized project manager tell me once on a huge project that I needed to take Cortez's approach. Cortez burned his ships when they landed in the new world, so there was no way to back out. He recommended a big-bang no-retreat implementation. I insisted on an incremental rollout with the legacy systems still in place.

The guy was implementing the same system I was, but from a different vendor and for a different company. His implementation failed miserably. Mine was a success: in fact it was the fasted company-wide implementation of the system ever.

If I were doing ObamaCAIR website, I would have implemented in a small state first after extensive stress testing. I would then have rolled out to possibly two additional states once the initial implementation was stabilized.

Even better, I hopefully would have turned the gig down once it became evident they weren't committed to the success of the project. (Then again, $600,000,000 goes a long way ....)


40 posted on 11/03/2013 12:45:14 PM PST by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: gitmo

gitmo, you are so right on this

“If I were doing ObamaCAIR website, I would have implemented in a small state first after extensive stress testing. I would then have rolled out to possibly two additional states once the initial implementation was stabilized.”

managers never want to hear about the timelines associated with reasonable testing, politicians even less so…

if you want a good laugh, take a look at Oct 3 “Ongoing Issues” where they list “fixes in the works for: the income issue, SSN, …”

http://www.scribd.com/doc/180609255/HealthCare-Gov-pdf

how on a project like this could anything related to Social Security Number be an issue on D Day + 3 ?


41 posted on 11/03/2013 2:36:28 PM PST by Reverend Wright (1990 Budget Agreement: learn from other's mistakes)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

She looks like an actual panzer in that photo.


42 posted on 11/03/2013 7:24:30 PM PST by Husker8877
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To: gitmo

“I had a nationally recognized project manager tell me once on a huge project that I needed to take Cortez’s approach. Cortez burned his ships when they landed in the new world, so there was no way to back out. He recommended a big-bang no-retreat implementation. I insisted on an incremental rollout with the legacy systems still in place.”

I will agree with this to a point - sometimes there is an establishment in place who will maintain and milk a creaky, unmaintainable system that cannot scale until they retire or die, and they will defend it and sabotage anything new to replace it because their careers (so they think) depend on it.

However, in most cases, a flash cut with no fallback is suicide.

I face problems like this (right now, in fact) on a smaller scale every week, in a real-time, dynamic environment where sometimes changes have to be made without as much testing as I would like. But if you aren’t making mistakes, then you aren’t doing anything...the big questions are how fast can you recover from them, will the customer notice them, and what can you learn from them.


43 posted on 11/03/2013 8:52:03 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Kaslin

This is very simple, “you reap what you sow”.

When a Liberal complains about anything they Voted for like Obamacare, that’s what you tell them.

Just add an “I told you so Comrade” for good measure, then thank them for inflicting their Idiocy on the rest of us.


44 posted on 11/03/2013 9:30:28 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: Qwackertoo
Angry? That's the cruelest mouth I've even seen.

Then there's the eyes. . .

45 posted on 11/22/2013 8:46:02 AM PST by doberville
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To: doberville

46 posted on 11/22/2013 9:21:41 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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