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As Bush Settles Into Dallas, Golf Tees and Family Time Now Trump Politics
NYTs ^ | 11/3/13 | Peter Baker

Posted on 11/03/2013 5:45:11 PM PST by Mamzelle

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To: Revolting cat!

Plus the rumors that he plays for the other team.


101 posted on 11/03/2013 7:09:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: A CA Guy

So you would say a president who:

1. signed the biggest tax increase in US history

2. signed an amnesty

3. put a disaster on the US Supreme Court

4. and cut an ran after a terrorist attack in the middle east

was a failure even if he was very successful in the other half the big things in his terms?


102 posted on 11/03/2013 7:11:11 PM PST by JLS
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Normal as we think of it is Old School, our Society has devolved into New School”

People like me, who I suspect this is directed at, are trying our very best to reconcile everything we have ever seen or heard with what we instinctively know is right. I grew up at almost the same time and the same place as that Amy Fischer chick. And yet today I enjoy reading Freerepublic. If you ever want to win another election, there has to be some small appreciation of where I come from.


103 posted on 11/03/2013 7:14:20 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: dfwgator

Exactly. The Gay Card has not yet reach the status of the Race Card. We’re working on it, though.


104 posted on 11/03/2013 7:14:26 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: JLS

Careful. You might see some sparks shoot out of ears...:)


105 posted on 11/03/2013 7:17:36 PM PST by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: Slyfox

Two thumbs up!!


106 posted on 11/03/2013 7:19:19 PM PST by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: ToastedHead

There is something fundamentally wrong with conservatives that blame george bush at least as often as baroque obama.

I would avoid it just because the similarity would repulse me.


107 posted on 11/03/2013 7:21:17 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: rlmorel

Ha! Yeah reality can cause that from time to time.


108 posted on 11/03/2013 7:21:40 PM PST by JLS
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To: ToastedHead

Not directed at anyone. Just the reality we face in today’s world as I se it.

The Liberal Control over Education, the Entertainment and News Media and now Technology has paid off for them in what I would say is beyond their wildest expectations.

Up is Down, Black is White and Right is Wrong but hey, the Majority of the Electorate doesn’t even care.

Reagan would never have a chance of being Elected in today’s Brave New World.


109 posted on 11/03/2013 7:25:29 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: JohnBrowdie

I chalk it up to cultural differences. Like if I tried posting at “FreeFrenchRepublic” about why I like being able to work 84 hours in 7 days if I want to.


110 posted on 11/03/2013 7:26:03 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Kickass Conservative

Demographics is Destiny.


111 posted on 11/03/2013 7:29:16 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ToastedHead

Cultural, indeed. Isn’t freefrenchrepublic a porn site?


112 posted on 11/03/2013 7:29:51 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: ToastedHead

Wait. I think I read that wrong.


113 posted on 11/03/2013 7:30:31 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Kickass Conservative

As much as you feel like up is down and black is white, so do I. We may come from different backgrounds but (hopefully) we can agree that what is going on right now, the blackhole Obama is being allowed to drive us into, has to be stopped somehow. I’ll vote for whatever ‘R’ gets picked for me.


114 posted on 11/03/2013 7:31:51 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 1rudeboy

GW Bush’s war in Iraq really worked wonders for the Republican Party, leaving it with the loss of the House and insufficient numbers of Senators to block Obamacare, which will be the greatest wealth transfer in the history of the country and an absolute disaster for working people who pay for insurance. I hear lots of criticism from GW Bush and the rest of his family about the Tea Party and conservatives, after all, the people they meet at the country club don’t want association with those of us in the great unwashed and they might get a favorable sentence printed about them in the Times or Post - I haven’t heard a word of criticism from GHW Bush, GW Bush or Jeb regarding the Soviet style health plan.


115 posted on 11/03/2013 7:33:20 PM PST by laconic
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To: dfwgator

“Demographics is Destiny.”

Doing my part Sir, birthin’ the babies. All is not lost.


116 posted on 11/03/2013 7:34:46 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: laconic
Somewhat better than his TARP giveaway of trillions to Wall Street to cover THEIR failures.

TARP was awful. The banks paid it back, with billions in profit for the Treasury.

Now the auto bailouts will cost tens of billions.......

117 posted on 11/03/2013 7:38:47 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Science is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: laconic

You’re flipping out over a story in the NYT about a man they spent 8 years smearing.

and seriously, you aren’t very laconic for someone who’s signon is “laconic”.


118 posted on 11/03/2013 7:38:47 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Kickass Conservative

“Reagan would never have a chance of being Elected in today’s Brave New World.”

Correction - Reagan would never have a chance of being Nominated in today’s Brave New World.


119 posted on 11/03/2013 7:39:12 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Obama didn’t bail out the auto industry, he bailed out the UAW — pretty much the same guys that just spent $100 million getting him elected.


120 posted on 11/03/2013 7:40:29 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: A CA Guy

Did ok on the war”

Really? Iraq disintegrated into chaos, and its Christians were put to flight by the Islamist radical shiites who were empowered by the US invasion when it removed their oppressor, Saddam.

Was this really worth 4000 US lives and $1 trillion (most of it borrowed from China)?


121 posted on 11/03/2013 7:42:39 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: laconic

good point about the Iraq war leading directly to the enactment of Obamacare. Voters punished the GOP for the Iraq disaster by electiing a Democrat congress and prez.


122 posted on 11/03/2013 7:44:46 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Mamzelle; MacNaughton; okie01
No, the telling moment on "W" for me came very early.

Remember that nice turn of phrase he used during the 2000 campaign, about the manner in which minorities are treated in the public education system? "The Soft Bigotry of Low Expectations", W said. We'd treat people equally, as we honestly believe that all men are created equal.

And I bought that, hook, line and sinker.

Then what did W do as soon as he got into office? He turned over his Education plan to Teddy, the Women, Children, and Oldsmobile killing Senator now representing Hell. He didn't stick up one second for his original plan.

That told me volumes about W. He had moments right after 9/11, but overall? Overwhelmingly a putz.

123 posted on 11/03/2013 7:45:37 PM PST by Yossarian
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To: Mamzelle

Stay out da Bushes.


124 posted on 11/03/2013 7:48:57 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: ToastedHead
Agreed 100%.

There are people, and more than a few on this Site who see what would have been a Romney Presidency as equal to the current Obama Presidency.

Best you not get sucked into that Debate, it gets nasty.

I'm not a fan of RINO’s, but my Red Line begins with Race Baiting, Community Rabble Rousing Liars with a Stalin complex.

125 posted on 11/03/2013 7:50:47 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: WilliamIII

The First Gulf War wasn’t worth it neither.

Why should we get involved in intra-Arab squabbles?


126 posted on 11/03/2013 7:52:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: yldstrk

If Bush was a great president, why dont Republican candidates want to be seen with him? Can you imagine a GOP candidate giving up an opportunity to be photographed with Reagan? But none of them want Bush anywhere near them, at least where cameras are present.


127 posted on 11/03/2013 7:52:22 PM PST by WilliamIII
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To: Kickass Conservative

Thanks:)

I’m relatively new to posting here, and still learning my way around. I suspected posting on this thread was stepping on a landmine, but I felt the need to stick up for the little Bush. He got me interested in politics.


128 posted on 11/03/2013 7:55:29 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: WilliamIII

If Reagan was alive right now, you would probably be bitching about him, too. There was a whole wing of the conservative movement — not huge, but it was there — for whom Ronald Reagan wasn’t pure enough.


129 posted on 11/03/2013 7:59:32 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Yossarian

Gee, for me it was “Compassionate Conservative”.

Talk about walking into a Liberal Spider Web, with that one line Bush gave the Liberals complete vindication of what they always imagined Conservatives to be. I actually remember cringing when I first heard him say that.

We were Meanies, and Bush would drag us toward the light to a Liberal feel good Utopia.


130 posted on 11/03/2013 7:59:58 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: samadams2000

“I’m sure he did his best, but we needed someone better.”

General statements do no one any good. Name a name of who would have done better.


131 posted on 11/03/2013 8:00:55 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: WilliamIII

“But none of them want Bush anywhere near them, at least where cameras are present.”

And that is the fault of the media, turning him into a devil that he never was.

He was put into a position where everyone in the world believed there were WMD in Iraq. He had to make a decision. He made an incorrect one, but he stood by it. Lesson learned, now let’s stay far away from Arab politics.


132 posted on 11/03/2013 8:01:01 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Yossarian
Then what did W do as soon as he got into office? He turned over his Education plan to Teddy, the Women, Children, and Oldsmobile killing Senator now representing Hell.

Ah, yes. Back in the halcyon days of "Changing The Tone". When Bush thought Washington was just like Austin...

133 posted on 11/03/2013 8:04:00 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ToastedHead

Bush was what he was, a RINO, but he loves America. After the constant Media attacks he endured, even before taking Office, day in and day out, even his Supporters turned on him mouthing the Leftist lies and DNC Propaganda.

When I hear a Lib whining about how poor little Obama is treated, I have to ask whether they had just come out of a Ten Year long Coma.


134 posted on 11/03/2013 8:27:00 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: Rembrandt

Agreed. I amended this statement. Regards.


135 posted on 11/03/2013 8:29:55 PM PST by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Kickass Conservative

All you gotta do now to be part of the vast right wing conspiracy is ask an honest question about something like a deductible. That’s all it takes to be a racist right now. I blame Obamacare on Romney for sucking. Above all else, we need to win the damn elections.


136 posted on 11/03/2013 8:39:23 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Mamzelle

Bush did untold damage to the GOP. This man was an abject idiot!

I never want to see another freakin’ Bush run for Federal Office! I wish that family would just go away!


137 posted on 11/03/2013 8:45:31 PM PST by Artcore
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To: lodi90

angle, o’donnell, akin, and mourdock

BS. You cannot support a person who makes a commercial saying, “I am not a witch” in a Senate Campaign. I know some of you ate that commercial up, but running for Senate. O’Donnell was the worst candidate in the history of the United States. Angle probably should have won. Akin and Murdock lost their seats on their own.


138 posted on 11/03/2013 8:50:28 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: ToastedHead

Yeah, are we Terrorist’s with Bombs strapped on our Chests or are we Hostage Takers? Maybe we’re just Seditionists.

I always forget. I’ll give Harry Reid a call and find out.


139 posted on 11/03/2013 8:53:15 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: Mamzelle

Another vote I regret. Thankfully I only voted for him once.


140 posted on 11/03/2013 8:57:26 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: napscoordinator

mike castle was no one’s dream of a republican senate candidate, but he could have been controlled once he got there. you support the party leadership, or you find yourself subcommittee chairman of rural juvenile delinquency.

clair mccaskill was toast until todd akin spectacularly failed biology — on television. all candidates should have been on red alert from that moment forward that the insects in the local media were going to try to set our candidates up on abortion. Mourdock should have been prepared.

and sharron angle . . . sigh. Would sue lowden have been so bad?


141 posted on 11/03/2013 9:12:03 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: yldstrk
I loved W. He was a hell of a President. Y’all got it wrong

what an insulting comment to all who cherish our Constitution and believe in individualism.

Bush was a rabid socialist pretending to be a conservative.

Statist Bush did nothing to reign in government, nothing at all.

Bush created the evil Medicare Part-D, he supported the insane TARP, ethanol subsidies.

The evil Bush let the evil Ted Kennedy take the lead and WRITE the No Child Left Behind Bill.

Bush deserves nothing but utter contempt.

You loved Bush? LOL pathetic.(P.S. His tax cuts were a total joke)

142 posted on 11/03/2013 9:40:51 PM PST by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: sand88

FR certainly attracts some incredibly sanctimonious people. “Agree with me, or God hates you and you use the constitution as toilet paper!”

Horsecrap. calling GWB a “rabid socialist” is barking, raving crazy, FFS.


143 posted on 11/03/2013 10:18:10 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Mamzelle

How many servants and flunkies do your think George Bush and Laura employ theses days? I have no idea. I know that George W Bush grew up with a lot of them.


144 posted on 11/04/2013 3:28:53 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw
I remember Bar boasting how she did not cook for her family. And W spoke better Spanish than English.

I don't think it's so much that they had so many, but that they never seemed to be able to function without them, and that they had so much contempt for those of us who had to mow our own lawns.

If Bush is so fastidious about keeping his mouth shut, let him keep his mouth shut about politics. But he has to pick and choose for his own spiteful reasons--and trying to force amnesty on the US is one of his spiteful reasons.

145 posted on 11/04/2013 3:41:05 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: JohnBrowdie
Akin made a stupid remark. However, he was spot on on the subject of biology. It is quite true that conception is much less likely by rape. Anyone educated in treating rape victims is aware of this. Less likely, but of course not impossible..

And we know how the Bush women LOVE them some abortions! I read about it in precious Laura's autobio.

And people who claim he was such a bad candidate allow much more garbage from liberals. Look at Joe Biden, who is so much smarter than Sarah Palin.

All the Bushes care about is trying to maneuver Jeb the Obese into place. And I'm sure there are lots of Jeb supporters here on FR.

146 posted on 11/04/2013 3:46:09 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: A CA Guy

Agreed. I’m a “true” conservative. Just not a moron. Bush was, is, a good man who loves our country and defended it well. Romney was not my first, second or third choice, but Nobama was definitely my last choice. When it was time for choosing, I voted. Millions did not, in a stand for “purity”. We have the mess we have today as a direct, imo, result of our side not voting because the wrong guy got nominated. This was, objectively, a vote for all that has happened since. This will continue to happen. “No more rino’s” equals “bring on the marxists”.

Sickening choices, to be sure, but we can not walk the country back the destructive path it is on in one leap. The marxists have gotten us here incrementally. We will have to go back the same way. Baby steps.


147 posted on 11/04/2013 4:00:39 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Mamzelle
Neat thread. In 2000, there would have been a hell of a lot of bannings for posting anything anti-Bush here.

IMO- Bush was nothing but a liberal (R) who saddled us with the Patriot Act.

148 posted on 11/04/2013 4:01:53 AM PST by Sarajevo
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To: Sarajevo
I'd say that might have happened post-2001. But conservatives have had to become much more cynical about our Republican leadership. Look how quickly we got nough of Rubio. And it's not fickleness, our standards have gotten higher. Bush promised one thing, said what he had to to get elected, then he and Laura wanted so bad to be invited to Hyannis Port... it was embarrassing to watch. And I liked it that Teddy behaved as if he was better than the Bushes...but it didn't seem to teach Laura anything.

We now expect to be sold out, and look for it, and value so much the more a Republican who shows a little faithfulness to America, rather than a squad of people who wipe off the Bush toilets everyday.

149 posted on 11/04/2013 4:11:17 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: prov1813man
I voted for Bush twice. I voted for McCain and Romney. I don't know if I'll vote against Hillary for another just like McCain. I might just vote for Hillary over the likes of that mealy-mouthed and overweight Jeb. I always wonder if we're better off trying to manage an unpopular liberal (like Hillary) rather than dealing with a Republican so filled with hot lust to sell us out for a little slice of Camelot.

I wonder if America did not do a lot better with Clinton and an opposition Congress than we did with Bush and a compliant liberal Republicanism...

150 posted on 11/04/2013 4:15:41 AM PST by Mamzelle
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