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As Bush Settles Into Dallas, Golf Tees and Family Time Now Trump Politics
NYTs ^ | 11/3/13 | Peter Baker

Posted on 11/03/2013 5:45:11 PM PST by Mamzelle

Edited on 11/03/2013 5:52:21 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

I agree with you entirely; he was one of the worst of all Republican presidents, next to Harding, hands-down worst Republican president of the 20th century. I was never convinced that he was very intelligent, either. His actions and words since leaving office have done nothing to dispel my doubts.


51 posted on 11/03/2013 6:19:30 PM PST by laconic
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To: laconic

So, how did that tax cut work out for ya’?


52 posted on 11/03/2013 6:20:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mamzelle
Mr. Bush resolutely stays out of the public debate.

Well, unless he sees another chance to push amnesty for illegal aliens which now seems to have been the issue that meant more to him than any other.

He's broken his supposed silence several times to give another push for amnesty, and I expect we'll hear from him again when that issue is resurrected for the umpteenth time.

53 posted on 11/03/2013 6:25:54 PM PST by Will88
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To: 1rudeboy

How did his tax cuts work out? Somewhat better than his TARP giveaway of trillions to Wall Street to cover THEIR failures.


54 posted on 11/03/2013 6:28:23 PM PST by laconic
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To: laconic

Trillions, huh? So you don’t remember the size of your tax cut, and don’t remember the size of TARP1. Par for the course.


55 posted on 11/03/2013 6:29:50 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mamzelle

I thought it curious that they take up residence IN Dallas after they leave the White House.

What happened to the ranch?


56 posted on 11/03/2013 6:29:55 PM PST by TomGuy (.)
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To: Mamzelle

” privately worried about the rise of the Tea Party”

Uh huh, right, NYT


57 posted on 11/03/2013 6:31:34 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,")
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To: Mamzelle

Of course anything from the New York Slimes is suspect, but the fact that he donated to Lindsay Graham means he is not staying out of politics. He has chosen his side.


58 posted on 11/03/2013 6:32:47 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan!)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Of course he’s worried about the Tea Party......The rise of the Tea Party blocks their plans to impose a family dynasty.


59 posted on 11/03/2013 6:33:18 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

When are you returning to Tallahassee, Jeb?


60 posted on 11/03/2013 6:33:41 PM PST by laconic
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To: JohnBrowdie

Yeah, because heavens knows that angle, o’donnell, akin, and mourdock were all great freaking ideas. we get those seats back, and it’s a different senate.


Ridiculous. Are you suggesting there are no lightweights in the Dem caucus? The difference is the DNC and Dems fight to win. They pull losers like Rep. Guam Is Sinking across the finish line. OTOH, GOP pantywaists can’t wait to back stab conservatives, cut and run, etc..

Folks like you and the GOP establishment that push progressives would rather lose than govern conservatively. That’s the real problem right there.


61 posted on 11/03/2013 6:34:37 PM PST by lodi90
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To: laconic

When are you writing a new book, Mr. Alinsky?


62 posted on 11/03/2013 6:34:55 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mamzelle
29 I think the most telling moment of the Bush Admin was right after the Dem takeover in 2006, Tony Snow stepped out to say in great delight..."Now we can at least get amnesty." ...

For me, there were 3 telling moments in 2005 which proved to me that "W's compassionate conservatism" would never evolve into something the conservative GOP base would ever embrace.

1. JAN 2005 - He said in effect that he had earned points and was ready to cash them in. He really cursed himself with that statement.

2. 5/01/2005 - The illegal alien Hispanics out west really started protesting for amnesty on May Day.

3. AUG 2005 - Hurricane Katrina was an absolute public relations disaster for "W" from which he never recovered.

63 posted on 11/03/2013 6:35:33 PM PST by MacNaughton
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To: Mamzelle
he can stay the heck away from Lindsey Graham's primary.

But he won't stay out because after W himself and Juan McCain, Lindsey is the biggest amnesty pusher among prominent Republicans. And amnesty pushing is the issue W cares about more than any other as he has proven time and again.

64 posted on 11/03/2013 6:36:06 PM PST by Will88
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
"He was a complete disaster." Ummm, negative. We were LUCKY he was there when he was.
65 posted on 11/03/2013 6:38:29 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: lodi90
Folks like you and the GOP establishment . . .

No, anyone that would write that spineless, unprovable sentence is the problem. as soon as you admit a purity test, I can rub you out with the same eraser you want to dismiss other conservatives that don't meet your personal approval.

don't be fooled. There's nothing special abut you. you help set off a feeding frenzy, it will just as easily devour you.

66 posted on 11/03/2013 6:41:24 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: MacNaughton
Again, just my opinion, when GWB went all-in for Social Security reform and got bitch-slapped, he changed his game and just rode it out.
67 posted on 11/03/2013 6:42:16 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mamzelle

Worried about the tea party and not the country headed to ruin. Stay classy bush.


68 posted on 11/03/2013 6:42:47 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: ToastedHead
Ummm, negative. We were LUCKY he was there when he was.

And double lucky that it wasn't Algore.

Hell, even the Democrats were privately happy that it was GWB who had to deal with 9/11 and not their guy...

69 posted on 11/03/2013 6:43:43 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Will88
Yes, it's all about his family retainers, an army of illegal servants to wait on the Bush women hand and foot. People get funny about servants--they become more attached to them sometimes than family members and Bush clearly never thought conservatives were anything like family.

I think it's because most Americans feel a little guilty about hiring people to wait on them...so they become paternalistic. Rather than acknowledge their lazy ways, they start thinking that they're performing some kind of charity by hiring people to make their beds and swab their toilets.

I don't mind people having servants unless they have to open up the borders and let in the cartel and terrorists.

So, Laura, why can't you just make your own bed? Buy a Roomba?

70 posted on 11/03/2013 6:44:52 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: dfwgator

Keep in mind this is the New York Times.


71 posted on 11/03/2013 6:45:42 PM PST by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: Mamzelle

Fantastic. Waiting for you to post about the Bush compound in Uruguay, next.


72 posted on 11/03/2013 6:49:08 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: okie01

That was exactly my first thought. Whatever opinion anyone has of him, he prevented us from the abuse of BOTH Algore and Kerry. For that reason alone, I will always defend him.


73 posted on 11/03/2013 6:49:15 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: ToastedHead

So just because he did something right 10 years ago, means he’s immune from criticism?


74 posted on 11/03/2013 6:50:14 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: ToastedHead
We were LUCKY he was there when he was.

Were we? Politically, 9/11 was the best thing to happen for W. It drew the nation's attention to the terrorism issue for several years and drew its attention away from many other things W was doing. It also made him much safer and comfortable in 2004 compared to John Kerry or any Dim.

Without 9/11, I don't think W would have been reelected. He won only by a close contest in Ohio. During his second term he mostly insulted the base and frittered away Republican majorities in Congress, resulting in the disasters of 2006 and 2012 which put Obama in the WH.

75 posted on 11/03/2013 6:50:30 PM PST by Will88
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To: Will88

And the bottom line is, 9/11 still occurred on his watch, even though Clinton certainly deserved the Lion’s share of the blame.


76 posted on 11/03/2013 6:51:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Nah, he’s not immune. I did not like his Part D entitlement. And I hated his bailout. But to say he was a complete disaster is crazy when you think of what President Gore would have done, or President Kerry.


77 posted on 11/03/2013 6:52:50 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: ToastedHead

Like saying that life under Hitler was better than life under Stalin would have been.


78 posted on 11/03/2013 6:54:05 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Will88

“It also made him much safer and comfortable in 2004 “

That was the first election I ever voted in, and I remember everyone being a nervous wreck. Everyone had forgotten about 9/11 by Nov ‘04.


79 posted on 11/03/2013 6:56:00 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 1rudeboy
Why would they go to Paraguay when they can bring Paraguay to the US?

I have observed more than my share of affluent Texas women who don't like spending their money on legitimate cleaning services or legally available nannies and maids. They like paying low wages to subservient and sometimes desperate illegals who work harder and make few demands. This used to be despised, and the nice Anglo ladies didn't like the stigma. So they set about changing the stigma of semi-slavery by lobbying for open borders.

Social justice and somebody to clean the bathroom. And you can do a search on the Bush dog walker.

80 posted on 11/03/2013 6:56:11 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: ToastedHead
But to say he was a complete disaster is crazy when you think of what President Gore would have done, or President Kerry.

Yes, we can at least say: Gore and/or Kerry would have been worse.

And at least most of W's defenders seem to have gotten away from bragging about his wonderful SCOTUS appointments, neither of which were actually his first choices.

81 posted on 11/03/2013 6:57:29 PM PST by Will88
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To: dfwgator

Sometimes things are what they are. We don’t have a third choice.


82 posted on 11/03/2013 6:57:39 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Mamzelle

Yeah, right. Your panties are in a wad. I get it.


83 posted on 11/03/2013 6:57:58 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Will88

Yeah I think Judas Roberts cured them of that.


84 posted on 11/03/2013 6:58:40 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: 1rudeboy

W just stuffed a lot of cash in Graham’s panties...


85 posted on 11/03/2013 7:00:14 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle

waah


86 posted on 11/03/2013 7:00:37 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Will88

I was so happy about Roberts. I thought we were buying a good 30 or 40 years of good conservative leadership in the court. I still don’t understand what the hell happened there.


87 posted on 11/03/2013 7:00:46 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: ToastedHead

He seemed either blackmailed or bought. Maybe someday we’ll know.


88 posted on 11/03/2013 7:01:42 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: 1rudeboy

Maybe you should stuff Graham’s panties?


89 posted on 11/03/2013 7:02:11 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: dfwgator
Yeah I think Judas Roberts cured them of that.

And some still have to be reminded now and then that Alito was not W's first choice, and wouldn't be on the court if there hadn't been an uprising of protest against Harriet Miers.

90 posted on 11/03/2013 7:02:31 PM PST by Will88
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To: Mamzelle

Maybe you should vote Ron Paul?


91 posted on 11/03/2013 7:02:50 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mamzelle

Is there any truth that you know of about him cheating (or something to that effect) on the adoption of his kids? It seems too conpiratorial to me, but the whole thing makes no sense.


92 posted on 11/03/2013 7:05:28 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: 1rudeboy

If he runs against Lindsey Graham, I will.


93 posted on 11/03/2013 7:06:13 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: dforest
The term “normal Americans” doesn't mean what we think it means. The times they are a changing.

Normal Americans Elected Obama, not once, but twice. Normal Americans support Abortion Rights, they don't like it, but the Left has convinced them that Women must have a Choice.

Normal Americans think the Evil Rich owe them a living. They think Self Responsibility ends for those who haven't won “Life's Lottery”, to quote Bill Clinton.

Normal Americans are cool with Homosexuality because otherwise they would be Judgmental, and we can't have that. That same fear of being Judgmental extends to out of Wedlock Children, Substance Abuse, Inappropriate Behavior, Inappropriate Attire, use of Profanity in Public Venues, Tasteless Entertainment, the list is endless.

Normal as we think of it is Old School, our Society has devolved into New School, if I may paraphrase a certain Witness in an Assault and Battery Case that rendered the Perpetrator room temperature. Of course, people will disagree, but Preaching to the Choir in a Church full of empty Pews will do nothing to change the perception of the new Normal...

94 posted on 11/03/2013 7:06:13 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: ToastedHead
I still don’t understand what the hell happened there.

Yes, Roberts has been a shock to many. And even though some here have written Ann Coulter off, she was one of the few to express objections to Roberts when he was nominated.

95 posted on 11/03/2013 7:06:32 PM PST by Will88
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To: Kickass Conservative

Demographics is Destiny.


96 posted on 11/03/2013 7:06:44 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: dforest

I echo those nagging feelings but please keep it between you and me.


97 posted on 11/03/2013 7:07:16 PM PST by bramps (Mark Levin: Would Christie, McConnell, and Boehner repeal obamacare? Not a chance!)
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To: ToastedHead

There was some suggested threat to that adoption...don’t know. Now Obamacare is the threat. I’d love to see Roberts lose his cushy govt insurance.


98 posted on 11/03/2013 7:07:42 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
I do not plan on voting for Lindsey Graham for President, either.

Boy, did this thread take a turn toward the retarded.

99 posted on 11/03/2013 7:07:48 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Mamzelle

Roberts was blackmailable over the illegal adoption of his Irish kids, that much is known and has been verified. To be blackmailable in his position is quite sufficient, no heads of unfortunate horses are required to soil anyone’s bed.


100 posted on 11/03/2013 7:09:01 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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