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Supreme Court to Hear Arguments on Constitutionality of NY Town's Public Prayers
The Christian Post ^ | November 4, 2013 | Michael Gryboski

Posted on 11/04/2013 11:58:11 AM PST by Center2Right

The United States Supreme Court will hear arguments Wednesday on whether or not the sectarian prayers offered at a New York town's meetings are constitutional.

The highest court in the land will hear an appeal from a lower court decision regarding Greece, N.Y.'s practice of having explicitly Christian prayers open town meetings.

Known as Galloway v. Town of Greece, the lawsuit was filed by two residents of Greece who felt the sectarian prayers made them feel excluded from the public affairs of the town. Susan Galloway and Linda Stephens, the two plaintiffs, are being represented by the Washington, D.C.-based group Americans United for Separation of Church and State (AUSCS)............

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: god; greece; lawsuit; lindastephens; newyork; prayer; publicprayer; publicsquare; rochester; scotus; supremecourt; susangalloway; voluntaryprayer

1 posted on 11/04/2013 11:58:11 AM PST by Center2Right
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To: Center2Right

Two nasty broads with nothing better to do.


2 posted on 11/04/2013 12:02:08 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Venturer
Maybe they are Lesbian Lovers.

Or Maybe they are witches.

3 posted on 11/04/2013 12:06:07 PM PST by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Venturer
Two nasty broads with nothing better to do.

Leftist/atheist activists. My report on this from back on February 29th, 2008, when the initial lawsuit was filed:

Americans United for Separation of Church and State Sues Town of Greece Over Opening Prayer

4 posted on 11/04/2013 12:08:02 PM PST by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Center2Right

How are they excluded? It’s not like the meetings are for Christians only. Like it or not, we inherited and are, a Christian nation.


5 posted on 11/04/2013 12:14:43 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Center2Right
It should be an easy decision: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

There is no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. The liberals made that up. The government, on the other hand, is prohibited from ruling against the practice of religion.

6 posted on 11/04/2013 12:16:34 PM PST by GingisK
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To: Center2Right; All

On one hand, noting that such power is now limited by the 14th Amendment, the states have the 10th Amendment-protected power to authorize religion-related things like Christian prayers being said at town meetings.

On the other hand, if this issue concerns Christian prayer, doesn’t Matthew 6:5-7 show that Jesus taught his disciples to pray in secret?


7 posted on 11/04/2013 12:36:40 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Center2Right

Why is this even a Federal matter ?
Might as well take the U.S. Senate to the Supremes.


8 posted on 11/04/2013 12:55:26 PM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: Center2Right

The story makes it seem as if the town’s policy is that only Christian prayers are permitted. In fact, anyone can volunteer to offer a prayer and no one has ever been turned down. Oral arguments are on Wednesday.


9 posted on 11/04/2013 12:59:23 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: GingisK

“The government, on the other hand, is prohibited from ruling against the practice of religion.”

...which was the original intent. Roughly half the colonies had state religions, and they were concerned that the Feds will tell them they weren’t allowed to have them.


10 posted on 11/04/2013 1:01:39 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: stylin19a

Funny thing is, the far left’s favorite religious icon, the “Peace Pole”, part of the missionary outreach program of the Byako church, is permitted on municipal property, while the religious icon that other group of missionaries took to Hawaii isn’t.


11 posted on 11/04/2013 1:06:08 PM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: GingisK
There is no "separation of church and state" in the Constitution. The liberals made that up. The government, on the other hand, is prohibited from ruling against the practice of religion.

IIRC, it was Hugo Black, Supreme Court Justice and Klan member who hated Catholics.

12 posted on 11/04/2013 1:55:25 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Center2Right; Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; TheOldLady; Spacetrucker; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

13 posted on 11/04/2013 3:41:00 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Thank You for all those pings. Will be up late reading, and being able to be up late and reading is a good thing.


14 posted on 11/04/2013 3:57:35 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

You are most welcome, darlin’.


15 posted on 11/04/2013 4:19:32 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

LOL ... you don’t have to call me darlin’, darlin’


16 posted on 11/04/2013 4:26:23 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Besides, this ain’t about trains, trucks, or gettin’ drunk.


17 posted on 11/04/2013 4:28:42 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Mama and prison is in there though.


18 posted on 11/04/2013 4:34:54 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Center2Right. Greece is a well-to-do suburb of Rochester, 3rd largest city in NY state.


19 posted on 11/04/2013 8:34:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I’m 70....orn and raised in Rochester. Hardly consider Greece a well to do suburb.


20 posted on 11/06/2013 4:37:23 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: GingisK
That phrase appears in the USSR’s constitution.
In order to ensure to citizens freedom of conscience, the church in the U.S.S.R. is separated from the state, and the school from the church. Freedom of religious worship and freedom of antireligious propaganda is recognized for all citizens.

— 1936 “Stalin Constitution”, Article 124

Citizens of the USSR are guaranteed freedom of conscience, that is, the right to profess or not to profess any religion, and to conduct religious worship or atheistic propaganda. Incitement of hostility or hatred on religious grounds is prohibited. In the USSR, the church is separated from the state, and the school from the church.

— 1977 constitution, Article 52
When that is pointed out to the liberals, they usually fall back on Jefferson’s 1801 letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut, which has the phrase “building a wall of separation between church and state”, the context being non-establishment of a single state religion at the federal level.
21 posted on 11/06/2013 1:55:58 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

That was very interesting! Thank you!


22 posted on 11/06/2013 7:36:18 PM PST by GingisK
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