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India launches spacecraft to Mars
BBC News ^ | 5th November 2013 | BBC News

Posted on 11/05/2013 2:58:56 AM PST by the scotsman

'India has successfully launched a spacecraft to the Red Planet - with the aim of becoming the fourth space agency to reach Mars.

The Mars Orbiter Mission took off at 09:08 GMT from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre on the country's east coast.

The head of India's space agency told the BBC the mission would demonstrate the technological capability to reach Mars orbit and carry out experiments.

The spacecraft is set to travel for 300 days and reaching Mars orbit in 2014.

If the satellite orbits the Red Planet, India's space agency will become the fourth in the world after those of the US, Russia and Europe to undertake a successful Mars mission.'

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: india; mars; space

1 posted on 11/05/2013 2:58:56 AM PST by the scotsman
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To: the scotsman

USA launches website to hell.


2 posted on 11/05/2013 3:12:22 AM PST by lump in the melting pot (Half-brother is Watching You!)
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To: the scotsman

ALU GOBI on Mars?


3 posted on 11/05/2013 3:19:28 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: the scotsman
At this rate, under Obamacare, ObamaNASA, ObamaMuslim Outreach, India, Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe and the Marshall Islands will have their men walking on the surface of Mars, long before the US.

Kudos to India, even though you're all walking around in your underwear, you're beating the pants off the USA! Some people have vision...some people have real leaders.

4 posted on 11/05/2013 3:23:13 AM PST by Netz
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To: Netz
have their men walking on the surface of Mars, long before the US.

My personal hope is that there is NEVER a paxpayer funded man woalking around the surface of Mars. There isn't anything there worth the price of getting there, let alone getting there and back.

5 posted on 11/05/2013 4:32:57 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: the scotsman

Go, India!


6 posted on 11/05/2013 4:47:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: from occupied ga
Beg to differ with you.

If done right, just the effort alone (like the 60’s moon race) will provide technological spin-offs that will affect every area of our lives plus, propel the US technologically beyond the envelope.

Earth-based space stations provide a lot of knowledge but if it is not used as a “jumping off point”, then what is it's purpose? We need to push forward, not remain in one place.
We are stagnant and that equals, slow death.

7 posted on 11/05/2013 5:04:26 AM PST by Netz
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To: the scotsman

India? No fooling. Good on them.


8 posted on 11/05/2013 5:43:21 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Netz

We’ve got a bastard Kenyan with a third world education for a president. Oh sure he attended (or not) some of our best schools, but his flawed foundation is what he operates from. It’s his third world bias that simmers at his core.

There is no vision for our increase or betterment. There is only the focus on reigning the U. S. in, reducing it’s perceived negative impact on humanity. In this, Obama is essentially a U. S. vasectomy.

It may seem strange to address that here, but as other nations expand and reach out, ours contracts and plays the introvert.

We are neutered as a nation.

We need a healer, not a destroyer.

God help us if this fraud serves three more years.


9 posted on 11/05/2013 6:18:15 AM PST by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
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To: Netz
If done right, just the effort alone (like the 60’s moon race) will provide technological spin-offs that will affect every area of our lives plus, propel the US technologically beyond the envelope.

As you said, we disagree. The "spin-offs" were not cost effective. You have an invalid assumption that you're basing your argument on - namely that the technology would not have been developed had the space program not provided a great deal of cash. You should read Bastiat's that which is seen and that which is not seen It explains it far better that I could in a brief post.

but if it is not used as a “jumping off point”, then what is it's purpose?

Jumping off point to where? Seriously. There isn't any other place in the solar system that we can live, and interstellar travel is science fiction.

10 posted on 11/05/2013 6:26:45 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

I respectfully disagree. Space exploration represents exactly the type of things government should be doing instead of the nanny state crap. I consider it long term R&D and insurance for survival of mankind itself. The private sector can help as well but a primary role of government is to defend the country itself even if it includes defense and strategies for surviving attacks from giant rocks.


11 posted on 11/05/2013 6:27:18 AM PST by plain talk
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To: DoughtyOne

G-d help us if Hilliary replaces him. If that happens, it’s all over.


12 posted on 11/05/2013 6:35:31 AM PST by Netz
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To: from occupied ga

They’re basically trying to prove that earth is not a special creation possible only through supernatural means.

That’s the root of it.


13 posted on 11/05/2013 6:36:29 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Netz

IMO, it’s over now.

What rel opposition does Obama have?

We’re kidding ourselves.


14 posted on 11/05/2013 6:47:23 AM PST by DoughtyOne (People will retain the power to control the Government, or it will retain the power to control them.)
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To: plain talk
I consider it long term R&D and insurance for survival of mankind itself.

How does space exploration translate into this goal in your viewpoint? Finding out at great expense that Mars and the other planets are made out of rocks and dirt just doesn't eem to help humanitiy's survival. ANd while on the subject of what's :out here" Chemistry and physics pretty much let us know there aren't going to be any surprises. Rocks and dirt

15 posted on 11/05/2013 6:49:56 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: MrB
They’re basically trying to prove that earth is not a special creation possible only through supernatural means.

Yeah... Just like they did with vaccines, insecticides and antibiotics, undermining disease and pestilence as heaven's judgment on Earth.

16 posted on 11/05/2013 7:23:41 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: from occupied ga

“How does space exploration translate into this goal (survival of mankind) in your viewpoint? “

Interesting to me that someone would actually ask such as question. :-). I realize some people don’t really think about such matters and can’t imagine mankind someday being forced to leave Earth or even how we might survive on a place like Mars. But yes that could happen and is poossible. And i think this is a key role for governments to defend the population on two fronts - diversion of meteors and eventual migration off earth should it be necessary.

This is just one reason of space exploration. There are commercial reasons and even a more fundamental driver that exploration is in man’s DNA.


17 posted on 11/05/2013 7:43:03 AM PST by plain talk
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To: James C. Bennett

Ridiculous non sequitur.


18 posted on 11/05/2013 8:05:34 AM PST by ecomcon
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To: ecomcon

I was being sarcastic.


19 posted on 11/05/2013 8:06:57 AM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: the scotsman

Based on my observations of the driving abilities of the Indians in my ‘burb, their spacecraft will crash on Venus.


20 posted on 11/05/2013 8:09:34 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: plain talk
There are commercial reasons and even a more fundamental driver that exploration is in man’s DNA.

Commercial exploitation of space is another thing that sounds good until you look at the balance sheet. There are two things that make it extremely unlikely to be successful:

  1. COST - Suppose you found a deposit of pure gold on the moon. Lets look at the economics of obtaining it. The apollo programs brought back 842 lb of rocks (12281 troy ounces). The brought back as much as they could. In today's dollars it cost about 150,000,000,000 This is a cost of $12,213,220 per oz. Gold is selling at $1309/ounce. You'd lose about $12,211,914 per ounce.
  2. The other problem is that they brought back ROCKS AND DIRT. There is no intrinsic value to rocks. You can pick them up anyplace.
There isn't any possible substance in space that's worth the cost of getting it.

I'll get into the total lack of feasibility of humanity's survival any place other than earth some other time.

21 posted on 11/05/2013 8:25:56 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Night Hides Not
Based on my observations of the driving abilities of the Indians in my ‘burb, their spacecraft will crash on Venus.

LOL too true.

22 posted on 11/05/2013 8:27:03 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
The "spin-offs" were not cost effective.

Yeah, integrated circuits have not been cost effective. Absolutely.

23 posted on 11/05/2013 10:49:35 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Netz

Nice to know that they’ll already be a 7-11 on Mars when we get there.


24 posted on 11/05/2013 10:51:14 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: from occupied ga
I'll get into the total lack of feasibility of humanity's survival any place other than earth some other time.

Yep, right after you explain the total lack of feasibility of manned flight, satellite video, net teleconferencing, genetic manipulation, Shakespeare and Beethoven.

Seeya then, sport.

25 posted on 11/05/2013 4:59:16 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: lump in the melting pot
USA launches website to hell.

And we can't even get good telemetry.

26 posted on 11/05/2013 5:36:34 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Talisker

Did it ever occur to you just how profoundly and monumentally stupid your false analogy is “sport?”


27 posted on 11/06/2013 4:08:48 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Talisker

And the best part is you probably think you’re being clever.


28 posted on 11/06/2013 4:49:22 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: DoughtyOne

-——We need a healer, not a destroyer.——

I would argue we need a leader. A leader taking us forward into presently unknown new prosperity will cause healing to naturally take place.


29 posted on 11/06/2013 4:55:48 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: from occupied ga

You are remarkably under informed about the many developments that space R&D has given us. Half the diagnostic equipment in a modern hospital has its roots in Aerospace Medical Research. If you can keep a man alive on the moon you can keep him alive in a lot of situations. The benefit of going to Mars is not what we find there. It is the development of the technological means to GET there. From a purely economic stand point it makes more sense to go to and asteroid and mine it. There have been studies that show that could easily pay for itself...
You have to stop and use your head about where all that money goes. We don’t just pile it up into a stair way to heaven. They PAY that money to tens of thousands of engineers, technicians, and scientists to build new and amazing things. The money does not vanish, it goes right back into the economy as those people spend their pay. Also, preeminence is space does the same thing as a strong military. Who will attack us when they know we are over their heads all the time, even in unarmed spacecraft. Intimidation pays off. Who will take the US seriously when Chinese and Indians are walking around on Mars and we are just spending more and more on the welfare class?

Of course I for one prefer anything that IS worth doing in space is worth doing via private funding. But that does not mean there is no useful government reason to invest in space.


30 posted on 11/06/2013 7:15:38 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
You are remarkably under informed about the many developments that space R&D has given us ...

I can see you've fully drunk the NASA Koolaid. You have a remarkable lack of understanding of what really goes on in R&D if you think that we wouldn't have those innovations without the space program. I refer you to Bastiat's That which is seen and that which is not seen As a starting place to open your eyes to the wastefulness of GOVERNMENT sponsored research.

31 posted on 11/06/2013 8:11:13 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

We wouldn’t have them because many of the benefits have been ‘spin-offs’. Those are things that you discover when you were trying to do something else. Aerospace and Military research has all sorts of spinoffs. But that is irreverent because you totally missed my point when you decided I was somehow defending the ‘wasteful government research’.

Why don’t you spend all this bluster and effort attacking the parts of the government that are 100% useless and cut the ones that are 50% useless last. Go cut the ones that employ thousands of bureaucrats and paper pushers and save the ones that employ thousands of engineers for when there is nothing left to cut.


32 posted on 11/07/2013 6:14:53 AM PST by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ
Were they aspiring rappers too?

You still don't get it. All research has spin-offs. Getting something done by government is the most wasteful and inefficient way to do anything. If the same budget that's spent on NASA were allocated by the marketplace you would get more in terms of innovation because you wouldn't have to work on things like large rocket engines which have absolutely no other use that powering rockets. And we've exhaustively proven that Mars consists of rocks and dirt. Something that anyone with a college degree in chemistry could have determined. NASA is just welfare and government dependency for engineers and scientists. BTW did you read Bastiat?

33 posted on 11/07/2013 6:35:59 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga
Did it ever occur to you just how profoundly and monumentally stupid your false analogy is “sport?” And the best part is you probably think you’re being clever.

You forgot neener neener.

Never forget neener neener.

34 posted on 11/07/2013 4:07:41 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

So many people, so much cleverness - I’m underwhelmed.


35 posted on 11/08/2013 3:27:43 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

I have a feeling you are neither an engineer, a scientist or a highly skilled technologist. Tell me I am wrong. For those of us who have worked in these fields, the space program has yielded scientific breakthroughs which could never have been achieved otherwise.

I would rather have tax payer money spent on advancing technology than more food stamps for a population whose biggest health problem is obesity.


36 posted on 11/10/2013 11:22:44 PM PST by entropy12 (Obama is succeeding in destroying economy & healthcare, and exploding freebies to his voters)
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To: Night Hides Not

Lot of Indians whom you see driving around here were unable to withstand the rigorous competition for education and jobs in India, with the type of people manning India’s space program.


37 posted on 11/10/2013 11:26:38 PM PST by entropy12 (Obama is succeeding in destroying economy & healthcare, and exploding freebies to his voters)
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To: Netz

Why does every space effort have to equal “entire country”? Why can’t a private firm launch something? From mid ocean if necessary, should no country grant it flight privileges?


38 posted on 11/10/2013 11:30:26 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Countries should encourage the private space market to the max. They can work together, combine resources and compliment each other. Historically, these space efforts required the input of the entire nation, not so today so I am in agreement with you. The sad part is that a “national vision” helps nations and their people look to the future, together and bring the spin-offs back down to earth.
39 posted on 11/11/2013 2:44:45 AM PST by Netz
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To: dfwgator
Nice to know that they’ll already be a 7-11 on Mars when we get there.

Yeah, and the manager will turn out to be an ancient white guy with a bad hair transplant job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM19YOqs7hU

40 posted on 11/11/2013 2:57:43 AM PST by cynwoody
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To: entropy12
Tell me I am wrong

About as wrong as you can get.

the space program has yielded scientific breakthroughs which could never have been achieved otherwise.

Utter NASA Koolaid. BE SPECIFIC, List a dozen - other than the ability to build large rocket engines and the technology to handle cryogenic fluids. IF THEY'RE SO MANY YOU SHOLD HAVE NO PROBLEM Remember you set an impossible bar when you said "which could never have been achieved otherwise" Oh and do us both a favor and check the origins of the so-called space program discoveries at some site OTHER than NASA. There is a NASA site that shamelessly claims the originations of such things as velcro, transistors, etc.

41 posted on 11/11/2013 3:47:34 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

There is zero evidence that space program has NOT advanced science and technology. You can argue about origins of various breakthrough discoveries.

Like I said, we spend more by ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE on food stamps, unemployment checks for 99 weeks (at the end of that period majority miraculously finds a job), and benefits to illegal immigrants, than we spend on space program.

You really need to get your sense of proportion in order.


42 posted on 11/11/2013 10:10:15 AM PST by entropy12 (Obama is succeeding in destroying economy & healthcare, and exploding freebies to his voters)
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To: entropy12
There is zero evidence that space program has NOT advanced science and technology.

You can't prove a negative. So in short you can't name any innovations attributable to the space program other than in rocket engines that wouldn't have been discovered anyway.

This is what I suspected all along all about your claim, it's full of sound and fury signifying nothing.

43 posted on 11/11/2013 11:13:10 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: jimt
Yeah, integrated circuits have not been cost effective. Absolutely.

More stinking Bull SH!T from the NASA Koolaid drinkers. Integrated circuits were NOT developed by NASA. They were developed by Texas Instruments starting in 1958 and from the ideas of a guy named Jack Kilby. Save your lies for someone who believes that crap.

44 posted on 11/11/2013 11:17:41 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: cynwoody

I hope they find Kip Draper

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058530/?ref_=nv_sr_3


45 posted on 11/11/2013 11:27:55 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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