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GOP Retains Solid Va. House Majority
NBC Washington ^ | Tuesday, Nov 5, 2013 | Larry O'Dell

Posted on 11/06/2013 3:44:43 AM PST by Zhang Fei

Republicans turned back several challenges by Democrats as the GOP retained a solid majority in the Virginia House of Delegates.

Democrat Jeremy McPike narrowly defeated Republican incumbent Scott Lingamfelter in unofficial returns Tuesday, but several other Republicans survived and the GOP kept 10 seats vacated by Republicans.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: cuccinelli; mcauliffe; va2013; vageneralassembly
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It appears from the VA legislature's results that Cuccinelli's loss was his alone (probably related to fundraising issues) rather than any broad-based rejection of the GOP because of the shutdown.
1 posted on 11/06/2013 3:44:43 AM PST by Zhang Fei
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To: Zhang Fei

The GOP candidate, AGAIN, COULD have won,
if only there did not exist the criminal villains
and thieves: Rove and Romney.


2 posted on 11/06/2013 3:47:25 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Zhang Fei

I don’t believe so..the GOP wanted him to fail. He was not their candidate, he was the Tea Party ‘s.


3 posted on 11/06/2013 3:48:12 AM PST by EmilyGeiger
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To: Zhang Fei

That’ll be the only thing that holds McCauliffe back...rural Republican legislators who weren’t in on the fix.


4 posted on 11/06/2013 3:49:01 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Zhang Fei
The fundraising issues you mention were strictly caused by the backstabbing GOP-e.

Cuccinelli Campaign Says National GOP Abandoned Them: 'We Were on Our Own'

5 posted on 11/06/2013 3:50:31 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Zhang Fei

Odd; the state election website shows Lingamfelter winning by a few hundred votes.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 3:51:30 AM PST by laconic
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To: Zhang Fei

Some good news at least!


7 posted on 11/06/2013 3:55:44 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Timber Rattler

We will remember in 2014!


8 posted on 11/06/2013 3:56:27 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: laconic

You know that means the Democrat wins!


9 posted on 11/06/2013 3:57:01 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Timber Rattler
A Cuccinelli campaign consultant says Cuccinelli was lackadaisical about fundraising. From the link I provided:

Democrat Terry McAuliffe was always going to raise a lot of money in his bid to be governor of Virginia.

But GOP candidate Ken Cuccinelli never took fundraising as seriously as he should have, despite knowing that McAuliffe's past career as a Democratic fundraiser for the Clintons would give him an automatic leg up, according to a Republican consultant.

Cuccinelli has paid the price. McAuliffe, who has a strong lead in the polls ahead of Tuesday's election, has crushed Cuccinelli in the money race, allowing the Democrat to overwhelm the Republican on the TV airwaves. McAuliffe's $35 million campaign haul is almost double Cuccinelli's nearly $18 million.

Cuccinelli, according to an operative with knowledge of the candidate and his campaign, assumed that conservative donors and the business community would automatically give to him, unlike Gov. Bob McDonnell, a Republican, who in 2009 "went out and met with and worked hard to get the buy-in of the money crowd."

"Ken wouldn’t stoop so low. He apparently thought that they would have to come to him after he became the nominee," said the operative, who talked about internal campaign details on the condition of anonymity. "I might go so far as saying that he had a sense of entitlement about it.
Maybe Cuccinelli thought he was the Godfather, and big money donors were going to show up, kiss his ring and throw money at him. Unfortunately, as McCain discovered in 2008, that's not the way the world works.
10 posted on 11/06/2013 3:58:51 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

oh good, “moderate” “bipartisan” “Eddie Haskell” McAuliffe is gonna have a great time with his own legislature


11 posted on 11/06/2013 4:03:01 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Zhang Fei

He pulled an Akin even before Akin did it. In his 2002 campaign for Virginia state Senate, Cuccinelli said that he did not support legal abortion for victims of rape or incest.


12 posted on 11/06/2013 4:05:09 AM PST by soycd
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To: soycd
In his 2002 campaign for Virginia state Senate, Cuccinelli said that he did not support legal abortion for victims of rape or incest.

Nor do I. Innocent blood is just that - innocent blood.

13 posted on 11/06/2013 4:09:09 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: soycd
He pulled an Akin even before Akin did it. In his 2002 campaign for Virginia state Senate, Cuccinelli said that he did not support legal abortion for victims of rape or incest.

And despite that he could have won if he had just spent more time on fundraising. Say what you will about Obama - and we criticize him for it - he never shrinks from fundraisers. And that is one part of how he's won - unlimited firepower. Romney raised more in 2012 than Obama in 2008, but Obama found a way to top his own 2008 fundraising record.

14 posted on 11/06/2013 4:11:04 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Sarvis, the Libertarian spoiler screwed it for Cucc. He was funded by dems.


15 posted on 11/06/2013 4:13:50 AM PST by albie
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To: laconic
Odd; the state election website shows Lingamfelter winning by a few hundred votes.

Yeah, I checked that as well. The article was posted Tuesday night, so some of Scott's strong precincts must have still been out.

16 posted on 11/06/2013 4:14:16 AM PST by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: don-o
Nor do I. Innocent blood is just that - innocent blood.

The 19th Amendment is why most GOP politicians allow for that exception. Is there a single statewide GOP pol who has won without supporting that exception?

17 posted on 11/06/2013 4:15:00 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

nice astroturf troll
peddling Rhino propaganda here

Vile Former Lt Gov Bollings the Rhino who lost the nomination to Ken actively pressed
gop donors and activist to support Mcawful !

Bollings told a major Gop Pac to not support Ken and send money and support to Mcawful.


18 posted on 11/06/2013 4:26:35 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force ing)
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To: Diogenesis

While that may be true, the Clintons pulled the winning play from their old playbook.

They had the libertarian run. Like Perot he won the margin of votes necessary to allow Mcawful to prevail.

Sanctimony among libertarians lost the election for the Republican candidate.


19 posted on 11/06/2013 4:34:24 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: ncalburt
nice astroturf troll peddling Rhino propaganda here Vile Former Lt Gov Bollings the Rhino who lost the nomination to Ken actively pressed gop donors and activist to support Mcawful ! Bollings told a major Gop Pac to not support Ken and send money and support to Mcawful.

Did Cuccinelli have enemies? Sure. Is he unique in having intra-party enemies who cross over to the other side? No.

But did Cuccinelli spend nearly as much time fundraising as McDonnell? The Cuccinelli campaign guy interviewed says no. Even the third party candidacy isn't particularly unique. John Anderson, a liberal Republican, ran against Reagan in 1980. Ultimately, Cuccinelli can make all the excuses he wants, but the reality is that VA GOP legislators mostly won their seats back. VA did not reject the GOP. It rejected him. It's not any single factor, but a combo of everything working against him, ranging from (1) his past statements opposing the incest and rape exception for abortions, (2) his lackadaisical fund-raising, (3) the Libertarian Party candidate, (4) McAuliffe's fund-raising prowess, (5) McAuliffe's experience in the big leagues running a national level campaign, (6) his personal lack of charisma and the list goes on. But we keep on circling back to the same bottom line - he lost while VA GOP legislators prevailed. He was deficient in a way that other VA GOP pols weren't.

20 posted on 11/06/2013 4:38:44 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

http://m.timesdispatch.com/news/latest-news/big-donors-for-mcdonnell-kilgore-tepid-on-cuccinelli/article_a107a202-424f-11e3-b4d7-001a4bcf6878.html?mode=jqm

read it and stop the astroturf crap

Bolling and the Rove crowd would not donate because there thug Bolling was not the bagman fir them


21 posted on 11/06/2013 4:40:20 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force ing)
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To: Zhang Fei

um, Obenshain and Jackson lost also.


22 posted on 11/06/2013 4:41:43 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Zhang Fei

Your quoting. Rhino Bolling plant trying spreading this talking point laka lie to media to cover there hit job on Ken


23 posted on 11/06/2013 4:42:16 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force ing)
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To: Diogenesis

You point was entirely valid until you mentioned Romney. He is out if the picture now.... OK?


24 posted on 11/06/2013 4:44:55 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Zhang Fei

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-07-02/local/40327529_1_cuccinelli-campaigns-terry-mcauliffe-virginia-public-access-project

another article disputing your rhino plant Bs your trying to con people here
with.

just goggle bolling and va gop and see all the articles stating the facts .
the Gop crony capitalist aka lobbyist wanted to run a third party crook they could control since Bolling drop his third party bid.


25 posted on 11/06/2013 4:50:10 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force ing)
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To: ncalburt
read it and stop the astroturf crap Bolling and the Rove crowd would not donate because there thug Bolling was not the bagman fir them

One way to find out would be to get a source who can nail down the number of fundraising events held by McDonnell vs Cuccinelli. I don't think it's astroturfing at all. It's actually the most plausible reason I can think of. A lot of pols don't like active fundraising, which involves essentially begging for money in person, with vague promises of political favors in the future. It's got an air of corruption about it, and some people don't have the personality for it. Straight arrows like Cuccinelli probably think of it as the moral equivalent of selling their souls in bits and pieces.

26 posted on 11/06/2013 4:50:14 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
... he lost while VA GOP legislators prevailed. He was deficient in a way that other VA GOP pols weren't.

Can he, will he learn from this result and do what he didn't before, or will his ego turn him into a "what could have been" memory.

27 posted on 11/06/2013 4:50:49 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: All
Republican candidates have to realize they are on a field of combat battling the equivalent of al Qaeda, ie an adversary that will use any tactic, deceitful method, and plain outright lies to win their campaign. You cannot play nicely with them. That is why I was dumbfounded to see Mitt Romney nominated by the party. Romney's Mormon background inculcated in him the art of public speaking but doing so as a gentleman, never stooping to subterfuge or denigrating his adversary by exposing his lack of skill or lack of candor. Remember the surprised expression on Romney's face during the debate when he gouged Obama? Remember how he backed down after that event? Republicans need to wake up and realize the future for the short term anyway is going to involve nastiness and start selecting political candidates with the ability to slug it out with the ilk of the Democrats.
28 posted on 11/06/2013 4:51:49 AM PST by phartimus_maximus
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To: xsmommy
um, Obenshain and Jackson lost also.

Obenshain's due for a recount, so we'll see.

29 posted on 11/06/2013 4:53:40 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Straight arrows like Cuccinelli probably think of it as the moral equivalent of selling their souls in bits and pieces.

Did Reagan personally fund raise or did he have surrogates do it for him? Was there an effect on him personally if he did?

30 posted on 11/06/2013 4:55:31 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: Zhang Fei

Mark levin
the national gop gave rhino Crony capitalist McDonnell 9 million in 2009 and Ken only 3 million in a off year election cycle ,

Bolling told one of the largest Gop pacs to donate to Terry Mvawful ,

Bolling was the Head of the Va Gop !
Bolling controls the state house and controls the stare funds so who do you think the Pacs and business groups would support !
Ken was cut off at the knees .
Your quoting some planted story to blame the victim of this Gop elite hit !
Wake up your spreading the rhino propaganda


31 posted on 11/06/2013 5:06:16 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty media out in full force ing)
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To: Tonytitan

Good. Republican legislature can keep his nuts in a vise for four years. Let the goof stumble around and misspeak and generally behave like the Democratic criminal he is for all to see.

After he adds 400,000K to the Medicaid roles in Virginia (i.e., 400K illegals) . ...well, I suppose I could dream that it might wake some people up. Doubtful though.


32 posted on 11/06/2013 5:07:43 AM PST by LibsRJerks
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To: Tonytitan
Did Reagan personally fund raise or did he have surrogates do it for him? Was there an effect on him personally if he did?

I don't think donors want to see surrogates. Nobody wants to meet the character who washed out during training in "Top Gun" - everyone wants to meet Maverick or Goose. What I remember is that Reagan was a prodigious fundraiser, and he was frequently criticized for it. The nature of the matching funds system that both parties used until Obama broke away in 2008 (and both parties rejected in 2012) meant that most of Reagan's fundraising was on behalf of other candidates and GOP party organizations.

33 posted on 11/06/2013 5:13:17 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: albie

The tea party groups need to fund a hippie green party candidate in every race that has a libertarian. That’s our only hope. Fight fire with fire dammit!


34 posted on 11/06/2013 5:16:27 AM PST by bigtoona
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To: Zhang Fei

“It appears from the VA legislature’s results that Cuccinelli’s loss was his alone “

BS. He was ahead with 88% of the precincts counted. The fix was in. The Democrats waited to see how many votes they needed and slammed the door shut.


35 posted on 11/06/2013 5:17:34 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Obenshain was the one the Democrats wanted to win.

We have a Democrat in the WH and Va has 3 Democrats in the executive branch. The Roanoke Times just ran out of people to criticize. The Tea Party demonization just isn’t getting traction. They hammered Cuccinelli and McDonnell relentlessly. Now there is no one to hammer.


36 posted on 11/06/2013 5:21:21 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: ncalburt
Mark levin the national gop gave rhino Crony capitalist McDonnell 9 million in 2009 and Ken only 3 million in a off year election cycle , Bolling told one of the largest Gop pacs to donate to Terry Mvawful , Bolling was the Head of the Va Gop ! Bolling controls the state house and controls the stare funds so who do you think the Pacs and business groups would support ! Ken was cut off at the knees . Your quoting some planted story to blame the victim of this Gop elite hit ! Wake up your spreading the rhino propaganda

I'm not saying that Bolling isn't a turncoat. I'm saying that Cuccinelli's job was to win regardless. And he came within shouting distance. But that and $2.50 will get you a ride on the NYC subway. Was Cuccinelli fundraising in Texas? What about other red states? Cory Booker was fundraising all over the country, and he was a lock for the US Senate race.

37 posted on 11/06/2013 5:22:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: AppyPappy
BS. He was ahead with 88% of the precincts counted. The fix was in. The Democrats waited to see how many votes they needed and slammed the door shut.

Way too complicated. Vote counts in wealthy Democratic areas tend to get done right quick. The reason they're slow in poor Democratic areas is because there's more coordination involved and also because affirmative action means that there are a lot more poll workers who make typical fast food workers look like models of German efficiency in comparison.

38 posted on 11/06/2013 5:28:43 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: bigtoona

If tea party groups want to waste their money on that, good for them. But if you’re worried about a (L)ibertarian candidate getting votes from (l)ibertarians, you might want to stop treating (l)ibertarians like sh*t and take some positions where you can find agreement to attract them. Or y’all can keep shaking your fists and stomping your feet when these losses at the polls continue.


39 posted on 11/06/2013 5:29:47 AM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Zhang Fei
Is there a single statewide GOP pol who has won without supporting that exception?

Bill Sponsorship: Sanctity of Human Life Act Source: H.R.212 Declares that: 1. the right to life guaranteed by the Constitution is vested in each human and is the person's paramount and most fundamental right; 2. each human life begins with fertilization, cloning, or its functional equivalent, at which time every human has all legal and constitutional attributes and privileges of personhood; and 3. Congress, each state, and all U.S. territories have the authority to protect all human lives.

40 posted on 11/06/2013 5:35:29 AM PST by don-o (Hit the FReepathon hard and fast! Nail this one for the Jimmer. Do it now!)
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To: Zhang Fei

It’s the same computerized systems. The precinct in Pocahontas Va probably isn’t run by a Rhodes Scholar either but they get their numbers in on time.

It doesn’t take 2.5 hours to tabulate the votes. Those numbers were being held.


41 posted on 11/06/2013 5:38:36 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: don-o

As far as I can tell, none of these is a statewide level official, meaning senator, governor, lieutenant governor or state AG.


42 posted on 11/06/2013 5:42:13 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Diogenesis
the criminal villains and thieves: Rove and Romney.

May their names live in infamy.

43 posted on 11/06/2013 5:44:14 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: AppyPappy
It’s the same computerized systems. The precinct in Pocahontas Va probably isn’t run by a Rhodes Scholar either but they get their numbers in on time. It doesn’t take 2.5 hours to tabulate the votes. Those numbers were being held.

Racial quotas mean that lots of black government workers are way underqualified for their jobs. Affirmative action supercharges the Peter Principle. This is why lines at urban post offices staffed by blacks generally take forever to clear whereas lines at post offices staffed by non-blacks seem to clear pretty rapidly. I expect the same mechanism is at work at urban polling stations staffed by blacks.

44 posted on 11/06/2013 5:49:46 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Bull. That’s just a convenient answer.


45 posted on 11/06/2013 5:53:16 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: soycd

So, he’s a conservative. Supporting Life is hardly equivalent to “pulling an Akin”.


46 posted on 11/06/2013 6:00:53 AM PST by jboot (Ask me again after the revolution.)
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To: AppyPappy
Bull. That’s just a convenient answer.

Fits with my personal experiences. I never really thought about it before, but after one particularly excruciating hour-long wait during the dog days of summer, when the post office AC was out, I started monitoring the race of the people who served me at post offices back before they consolidated the lines the way banks do. And the slowest lines were always manned by blacks.

47 posted on 11/06/2013 6:02:31 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

I think that is an answer in search of data to support it.


48 posted on 11/06/2013 6:05:00 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Zhang Fei

Now that the election is over watch the insurance cancellation letters come rolling in.


49 posted on 11/06/2013 6:11:42 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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To: fortheDeclaration
We will remember in 2014!

Yes, bring the Virginia Miracle to the other states.

50 posted on 11/06/2013 6:13:46 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Do The Math)
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