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Some reflections on the Virginia and New Jersey elections
Washington Examiner ^ | NOVEMBER 6, 2013 | MICHAEL BARONE

Posted on 11/06/2013 6:37:47 AM PST by Qbert

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1 posted on 11/06/2013 6:37:47 AM PST by Qbert
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Ii’m astounded that only 8% more voted against it!


2 posted on 11/06/2013 6:41:03 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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There is only one poll that counts and McAuliffe won it.

He won it because the GOP did nothing to help Cuccinelli.


3 posted on 11/06/2013 6:42:54 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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Obamacare will be seen as a benefit by the time 2014 rolls around. By the time the msm is done, the stupid American public won’t vote Republican for anything more important than dog catcher.

And if the msm doesn’t finish off Republicans, the GOPe will apply the last touches.

We’re going to lose, and lose big, so what’s the difference if we start a 3rd party? At least with a 3rd party, there would be a direction.


4 posted on 11/06/2013 6:43:56 AM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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Why didn’t Barone, a GOP-e insider, mention that the RNC gave a piddly $3,000,000 to Cuccinelli last summer, and NOTHING since then? The Republican National Committee would rather have a Clinton bagman win VA than a conservative backed by the TEA Party. With “friends” like the RNC stabbing them in the back, why should limited government conservatives vote for GOP.e
candidates?


5 posted on 11/06/2013 6:44:22 AM PST by txrefugee
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The libertarian Sarvis took 7% of the vote - from the GOP. We had 53% combined.

Let Obamacare roll out on its own accord. Killing Dems. They will soon do anything to delay it past Nov 2014. Don’t let them.

Could be a nice rout in Nov 2014.


6 posted on 11/06/2013 6:45:48 AM PST by dan on the right
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I heard someone mention on another board (haven't confirmed myself) that Republicans actually gained seats in the Virginia State House and now control a 2/3rds super majority of 68 out of 100 with 2 still undecided. If this is true, good Ol’ Terry is going to a fun time getting any of agenda through, even if there are a handful of Rino’s mixed in...
7 posted on 11/06/2013 6:48:16 AM PST by apillar
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Regardless of the crunching, VA voters got out last night and put the state back in play. Meaning Warner’s not safe. Who will challenge him? That candidate needs to be on the air, TODAY.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 6:52:54 AM PST by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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There is only one poll that counts and McAuliffe won it.

He won it because the GOP did nothing to help Cuccinelli.
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AND he won it because of there being a purported “Libertarian” spoiler candidate on the ballot. The money that the Obama bundler spent to get that slimy spoiler on the ballot was the most effective expenditure that the progressives made. Because of its effectiveness, they’ll will be doing more of that in the future to siphon votes from conservative candidates.


9 posted on 11/06/2013 6:53:10 AM PST by House Atreides ( D)
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Private sector union members in Virginia are likely mostly coal miners. No reason to be fans of the Dems at this point.


10 posted on 11/06/2013 6:54:00 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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There’s a thread today about VA house taken by Rs. I’ll try to find it.


11 posted on 11/06/2013 6:57:53 AM PST by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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THAT’s good news. I have the vision of his making it a very friendly place for Hillary.

If the GOP doesn’t stop the dem spoiler third party candidate in future elections, esp in the Hillary deal, it will be a big problem. But not for them if they don’t want to win, which seems quite possible.


12 posted on 11/06/2013 6:59:47 AM PST by stanne
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Personally...I think Cuccinelli shot himself in the foot when he refused to meet with Ted Cruz. He played it safe, instead. However, I know that a lot of Virginians are very conservative, but trust neither major party. That is the only reason the libertarian fared so well. That was the message, really, that although they probably like the republicans more, they don’t trust republicans who shy away from true conservatism. I realize it is not 1980, or 1984 any longer, but true conservatives win when they stick to their guns and don’t take the gop-e advice. IF you play it safe and try to look middle of the road, it sends the wrong message. I was so angry over this issue, and even though I don’t live there, I know others who do. They are tired of those who are afraid to stand up and hold the line.


13 posted on 11/06/2013 7:01:21 AM PST by Shery (in APO Land)
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THAT’s good news. I have the vision of his making it a very friendly place for Hillary.

Of course. I'm convinced that is the only reason McAuliffe ran. McAuliffe IS the Clinton political machine as much as Karl Rove was the Bush's Machine. McAuliffe was the biggest crook in the Clinton campaign (and that's saying alot), he was intimately involved in every financial scandal (think Buddhist temple campaign funds, Chinese Money Laundering etc.) I have the distinct fear, that he is planning to essentially turn the Virginia Governors office into the campaign arm of Hillary 2016. I hope the Republican in Virginia are watching him like a hawk, once a crook always a crook...

14 posted on 11/06/2013 7:06:30 AM PST by apillar
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GOP Retains Solid Va. House Majority

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3088049/posts


15 posted on 11/06/2013 7:08:33 AM PST by txhurl ('The DOG ate my homework. That homework, too. ALL my homework. OK?' - POSHITUS)
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He should have met with Cruz. The two share a lot in common.


16 posted on 11/06/2013 7:09:54 AM PST by darkangel82
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Whether the GOP helped or not, the main reason that Cuccinelli lost is that VA is a purple state trending solid blue. NoVA, the fastest growing and most wealthy part of the state, votes like NY or CA. Immigration and a huge migration of liberals from the Northeast to the DC area to feed at the government teat have changed the demographics of the state.

30% of the residents of Fairfax County, the largest county in the state, are foreign born compared to 15% in 1990. The vast majority of them are minorities as defined by the USG. Immigrants and minorities vote more than two to one for the Dems.

It is easy to cast blame on how and why Cuccinelli lost, but I know why he lost and it has to do with demography and an improved Democrat machine that gets out the vote. Having been a resident of Fairfax County for the past 34 years, acted as a poll watcher, and been active in Rep politics, I can only say that demography is destiny. We have entered the era of tribal politics and it will be very, very difficult for a Rep to win statewide office in VA for a very long time, if ever.

17 posted on 11/06/2013 7:10:40 AM PST by kabar
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What Cuccinelli should’ve done was closely study Bob McDonnell’s campaign tactics and strategies from 2009. McD visited every single area of the state and was meticulous about interacting with as many people as possible. He reached out to hispanics with a “growing the economy benefits us all” message, rather than trying to clumsily address immigration. In each area, to each sector of Virginia’s diverse population, McDonnell stayed on message with a calm discipline rarely seen. As a result, voters could identify with him as a guy who looked at the big picture with a Reaganesque approach that had broad appeal.

Cuccinelli, though a highly effective attorney general who would’ve been a fine governor, didn’t seem to ever be able to establish that connection on the level of success seen by McDonnell four years ago. In the future, any Republican running for statewide office in Virginia should closely review the McDonnell “game film” and emulate if not the man his winning strategies.

Though I’m highly pissed at the stay-at-homes and the SarvisBots, who otherwise could’ve swung this election, Cuccinelli could and should have helped himself by employing a far more effective and comprehensive campaign approach.

The close election last night shows the infrastructural elements such as demographics are not insurmountable after all in Virginia. But the GOP candidate needs to hone his or her message to adjust to it. Cuccinelli failed in that regard.


18 posted on 11/06/2013 7:13:24 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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Having been a resident of Fairfax County for the past 34 years, acted as a poll watcher, and been active in Rep politics, I can only say that demography is destiny.

While that's true, McDonnell was able to leverage strategic messaging to target audiences with a strong, albeit broad, economic message. That worked well with the hispanics, especially in NoVa -- he pulled more than 40% of their support without ever broaching the subject of immigration. The economic message of "we're in this together, and this is my play for job growth" played well.

19 posted on 11/06/2013 7:19:56 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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play for job growth = PLAN for job growth


20 posted on 11/06/2013 7:20:48 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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