Skip to comments.Erick Erickson - Virginia
Posted on 11/06/2013 8:05:51 AM PST by NKP_Vet
Ken Cuccinelli is a friend and I am sorry he lost.
In 2009, the Republican National Committee spent $9 million to win Virginia by a big margin. For the past 48 hours, the party bosses have been screaming to everyone about how much money they poured in this time in Virginia. Weve had a few diarists at RedState document it and suck it up as gospel truth that the RNC did all it could this time.
The RNC spent $9 million in 2009 to win and spent $3 million this time, pulling money out of Virginia, to lose by a hair. The RNC truly screwed up in Virginia this time and no amount of spinning can distract from that screw up. It was Election Day itself when someone finally noticed the 3rd party candidate, Sarvis, had been funded by a major Obama donor. Election Day the GOP finally notices this!
Cuccinelli had all the insiders aligned against him. He was the outsider. The gays hated him, the Chamber of Commerce hated him, the kid killers hated him, the GOP establishment hated him all the insiders hated Cuccinelli and his campaign made the strategic blunder to try to work their way inside instead of dancing with the folks who got him to the dance. The campaign manager was fired too late and the campaign fell behind by double digits. Compounding that, the Democrats massively outspent him, Governor McDonnell is involved in a scandal, and the GOP voted to raise taxes with Cuccinelli struggling to distance himself from both.
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I’m afraid so. Clearly the RNC wasn’t just dumb. They wanted Cuccinelli to lose.
They’d far rather lose to a flaming liberal Democrat than have someone in office who might show up their corruption or interfere with their perks. Even if it means that future elections will be stacked against them, with this crook running things.
My grandmother called it cutting off your nose to spite your face.
The GOP has long carried the moniker of “The Stupid Party,” and that stupidity was on display for everyone to see in this campaign. Rather than allow a conservative to win the governorship in a key state, the GOP-e elected to sit-out the election.
No doubt they expect that we conservatives will forget about this, along with the war of words they’ve levelled at us since the 2010 election that won back the House for the Republicans.
McAwful will deliver Virginia to Hillary in 2016 ... and earn himself a spot in the Clinton cabinet.
Do they every read the "Declaration of Independence," marking the day when the world changed? Do they understand that, had the men and women of that day been "moderate" and compliant in deferring to coercive government power over their lives America would never have come to be the refuge for oppressed individuals from all over the world?
Message to Republicans:
"Posterity! you will never know how much it cost the present generation to preserve your freedom! I hope you will make a good use of it. If you do not, I shall repent in Heaven that I ever took half the pains to preserve it." - John Adams, Letter to Abigail Adams, 1777
Republicans, you are having what may be the last chance to preserve "freedom" for future generations! Moderation in the face of arrogant, determined men and women who believe that "fundamentally changing" America from its foundations in freedom into a model based on the Old World ideas from which it separated and distinguished itself--that kind of "moderation" is just cowardice disguised.
That Virginians, living in the land of the Author of the Declaration of Independence and "father" of the Constitution, would choose a political hack tied to the unprincipled agents of such "fundamental change," is shameful and illustrative of the degree of constitutional illiteracy which "progressive" education brought about.
There is a lot of spin out there on this race. The simple truth is this: VA has turned very blue in recent years. Voting for BHO twice. Two liberal Dem US Senators. I suppose the massive growth of government has fueled much of this especially in Northern VA which is now very much a part of the solidly liberal northeast corridor.
If Virginia has gone solid blue then there is no hope for the GOP to ever win another national election. It looks like we are set for a long 40 year stretch of RAT presidencies until the country totally collapses, ala the Soviet Union. When it comes, I will be ready to do my part.
Conservatives have been lectured to for years that if we don’t like the candidates the gop is putting forth we should fight like hell in the primaries but when the dust settles get behind the candidate whoever it is. And by and large we have done that5. I hated voting for Bob Dole, it KILLED me to vote for McCain, I didn’t want Romney as my nominee, but in the end I supported them and so did most conservatives. But when conservatives got their act together and out manuevered the gop-e and got the slate we wanted at the VA convention last summer what did the party do? did they follow their own orders and get behind the candidates? No! They badmouthed the ticket, witheld support, witheld donations, and in some cases endorsed the democrat! I say to hell with them. Let the gop die...it deserves it.
They didn’t just sit it out they worked to undermine our candidates and several elected GOP even threw their support to McAuliffe like the Mayor of Virginia beach. We need some house cleaning in Virginia but also we in the Tea Party and who are constitutional conservatives need to accept that it is OUR responsibility to fund OUR candidates and that we can not count on the establishment or GOP to do that for us. We need to link ourselves into a fundraising apparatus that can take on the big money in our party which is fundamentally transforming it into not the party of Reagan but the party of progressive-lite.
They’re not stupid. They’re just corrupt. Their only beef with the democrats is they’re not getting a % of the take when the dems are in power.
It won’t take 40 years.
F the Gop
Probably, in the eyes of the GOP establishment, the best $3 million they ever spent. It looked like an “effort”, but just faint enough to lose, but still appear to be “valiant”.
Which is why I don’t respond to appeals from the Republican National Committee or the National Republican Senatorial Committee. They just drizzle the money away anyway.
Go for the individual campaigns. That way, even if your guy loses, it did not go to some overpaid and virtually useless “consultant” that advises the candidate to “go center”.
What you say is true, but if the GOP had supported KC the way they supported McDonnel 4 years earlier he would have won the race. The AG remains in republican hands. The worst news possible for McAwful.
And let’s not forget the GOP has caved to the sodomites. They support them all over country. Faux News is just as much for sodomite “marriage” as the rest of the lib news channels. Megan Kelly and Sheppard Smith practically drool when talking about the fags and “civil rights” for them.
If the Republican party throws us Christie, like McCain and Romney and Dole, for presidential candidate, I will not vote for him regardless of the Democrat candidate. It won’t matter either way. I voted for the other two but no more. McCain has done everything but switch parties to cooperate with the Democrats. So give us a RHINO/CINO and I will not help them win. DC ruling class is like one big party and the Republicans are acting like the wall flowers so happy to be invited to the party they will do anything to get invited again.
Funny, though, when the RINOs actually need votes, they put on their phony conservative masks and parade around like they believe in liberty... No more support unless we get the candidates we want..
McAwful will deliver Virginia to Hillary in 2016 ... and earn himself a spot in the Clinton cabinet.The Republican establishment knows this.
Evidently they are fine with it.
For a number of years I have been stating that the true boundaries of the northeast is the region east of Interstate 81 and north of Virginia's Interstate 64. It's reasonably accurate.
Maelstrom: “...constitutional conservatives need to accept that it is OUR responsibility to fund OUR candidates...”
You’re absolutely right. Many have posted that they will not donate to the RNC again until it stops trying to beat conservatives. Yet, many demonize the RNC for not pouring more money into these races. We can’t rightly expect them to fund our candidates if we refuse to give the RNC our money.
I’m not saying we should pour money into the RNC, but we are going to have to do something more to win these sorts of races. If that means donating money directly to the candidates, then donate. If it means walking door to door, start walking.
Frankly, I’m guilty of not doing much to get conservatives elected. Part of that is because I’m lucky enough to live in a very conservative state. However, how long can conservative states like mine stand against the federal behemoth if we don’t start pushing back in the blue states? They’ll simply outvote us in D.C.
Many of these races are still winnable, but we have to increase our turnout. Even if Democrats make up 60% of voters, the other 40% can still win if we can get more of us to the polls, but that’s going to take time and money.
“The GOP/RNC Establishment is dead to me.”
They’re dead to everyone. Cause of death: Suicide. Seriously, I can’t believe the GOP-e doesn’t realize that strategically, they are playing into the hands of a marxist-democrat party that wishes them exterminated politically.
There are a few counties around DC where TM won. The rest of the state voted Repub. KC was painted as an extremist. If he flips, or the GOP flips 2% of the women vote they win Va again. Its not that hard
Who cares if the gop wins another election perior - national or not? I certainly don’t!
I will vote conservative, and given only a choice between RINO and dem, I will vote dem every time.
The gop must die! The more sooner the more better.
Yeah the Gop leadership just plays the game. The are as liberal as the dems at the top. Its a one party system
Rove and Romney STOLE more than 100 million dollars
of donations on the night of the election.
The workers could not afford to even fly home
when Romney abruptly gave up and the money “disappeared”.
Now, a fraction of what they stole
could have changed everything.
We need some kind of kickstarter for conservatives or some kind of million conservative pac where we can leverage the strength in our national numbers to raise millions in small donations. Obama and the DNC are doing a lot of fundraising with very small donations of $5.00 of less the key though is they are targeting literally millions of supporters.
You are absolutely right. None of us can feel safe in the comfort of red states because the left if they can’t win at the state level will transform your state using the federal whip. That is why they push things like ENDA. They want to force states like Texas, Oklahoma and others to submit to their liberal social policy or else. That is why they want Obamacare because they know they will never be able to implement such schemes in red states. They are authoritarians and they have no end to their hunger for power and will not be happy till they have consumed the entire world.
There is no refuge. There is no easy road to be had. We need to act as partners as a part of a unified cause that operates beyond our state lines.
Never forget the betrayal.
Rovio and crew strike again....he loves the Clintos and all their minions
Cuch lost by 1.5%. The RNC didn't support him.
That's the simple reality.
You are ignoring how close this race was....with all of the power of the dims and nothing from the Gopelite Cuccinelli had an up hill battle from the get go.
Too bad that they didn’t point out that the Libertarian candidate was really an O admin backed lefty. Too bad Ken didn’t hammer Ocare the whole time
The party insiders are far more scared of letting conservatives have any pull in the party than they are about relegating themselves to permanent minority status.
I'm not sure that's really the right approach. That requires some kind of organization to accept the money and parcel it out.
I think what we really need is some organization to tell us who the "good guys" are, so we can make individual contributions to them. Ordinarily I don't even hear about candidates in other states, and if I do hear about them, I have no idea whether they're really "good guys." I'm willing to contribute money directly to candidates I can trust, but I have no way of finding out who they are.
“Youre absolutely right. Many have posted that they will not donate to the RNC again until it stops trying to beat conservatives. Yet, many demonize the RNC for not pouring more money into these races. We cant rightly expect them to fund our candidates if we refuse to give the RNC our money.”
Hold on, are you suggesting that when you give money to the RNC you are confident they are spending that money where YOU want it spent? Is that what you are saying here?
In my world, if I give any money to the RNC, I have NO way of knowing where they choose to spend that money.
Screw the RNC. Karl Rove is a freakin snake and all that surround him. I detest those running the RNC, btw, where has Reince (sp) been lately? Do you hear him/see him fighting FOR anything?
Also, even though that skunk McAwful squeaked out a win, the state offices went red, so good luck McAwful, you will do the dems proud, if you stay out of jail!
It hasn't. GOP now holds a 2/3 majority in the VA House. This was strictly Cuccinelli - the party insiders withheld money and support from him, and some even (tacitly or worse) endorsed McAwful. The fake "Libertarian" also had little effect on downticket races.
The RNC didn’t screw up, they threw Cuccinelli under the bus, to appease their masters within the DNC, and protect their financial interests.
Yes that is a key part of the problem and I’m not really interested in managing money etc like a pack. What I had in mind was more of what you alluded to a way to really connect conservatives with other conservatives and allow them to rally funds to conservative candidates leveraging numbers. How did Scott Brown raise 12 million in a couple weeks from small donations? Every conservative/GOP was reaching out and promoting him one their email lists on their websites etc. We need a way for replicating that without having to rely on separate orgs to send out emails etc. We need a way of raising awareness in a concerted way among committed conservatives.
We have the corrupt, inbred, mutually back-scratching, corrupt, frick-and-frack Washington Party and then we have the Constitution-loving Patriot Party.
What is amazing is that Cuccinelli came so close I hate to say it but VA is now solidly BLUE-—voting for BHO twice-—two liberal Dem US senators lots of government workers and contractors in Northern VA dependent upon big government.
This isn’t to say the Dems shouldn’t be nervous. The fact that Cuccinelli came so close means that Obamacare is proving to be real albatross. My guess is that Dems in red states are in deep do do next Fall.
Also keep in mind the electorate in midterm elections is generally older and whiter than it is general elections——obviously demographic factors which should give the Republicans a significant advantage in November 2014 coupled with massive disapproval of Obamacare. The so called government “shut down” will be long forgotten a year from now as the disastrous effects of Obamacare become front and center.
If the party had anticipated the possibility that Cuccinelli could beat the polls by 5 points, the usual support might have closed the polls by 2 points (from a 7 point McAuliffe lead) to where the surge would’ve been sufficient to win.
“We need some house cleaning in Virginia but also we in the Tea Party and who are constitutional conservatives need to accept that it is OUR responsibility to fund OUR candidates and that we can not count on the establishment or GOP to do that for us.”
Agreed!!! Y’all have NO idea how hard it is to fundraise for a Primary when the Republicans don’t want to get involved or make waves, or actually back-stab and undermine. Or worse yet, run another faux-Constitutional Candidate to split the vote and insure the incumbent wins -— ala Karl Rove and his Victory Fund. And the Business/Industry PAC’s won’t help if they can’t buy your vote on some future legislation promise.
If the true Conservatives in the Tea Parties, FreedomWorks, Club for Growth, RedState, etc., won’t or don’t jump in to help -— we are GUARANTEED a loss. ONE person can not win a race all by themselves, even if they have the money of a Steve Forbes or Ross Perot.
Then folks report that another Tea Party Constitutional Conservative lost again . . . so sad -— see, the problem is those pesky Tea Party types. And, after all, you can’t win against a sitting incumbent.
Well, “can’t” never accomplished anything -— and I am too determined to do everything in my power to save OUR Country to quit.
What did George Wallace say about the two parties? “There’s not a nickles worth of difference in them”. And that was years ago. They have merged now.
Democrats/RINOs versus conservatives. Time to take back the country from the liberal establishment.
Boehner, McConnell, Cantor and the rest of the sleezy, backstabbing GOP establishment need to be ran out of Washington on a rail.
Stafford County is very conservative. Every precinct went for the incumbant Republican (and quite conservative) Delegate by a 65% margin. He only lost because the illegals and La Raza flooded Prince William County with leftists and many illegal votes.
I only meant what I wrote about the RNC. It isn’t reasonable, in my opinion, to complain the RNC isn’t funding races while at the same time refusing to fund the RNC. I don’t think we should give the RNC a dime. Therefore, I also don’t expect them to have a lot of funding to pour into races I think are important to conservatives. It’s our obligation as conservatives to work for our candidates, that is, if we want them elected.
I’m glad we agree. We have to continue to stand up. We will not win every race but if we refuse to fight we will not even be getting our message out. Ken Cuccinelli even though he lost he actually won the 18-24 vote running on conservative constitutional principles. We also won independents. Sure we lost but if we had not fought at all the next election would be even harder for all the voters we did not engage.
We also need to stop being silent or confined to where we are comfortable. We need to educate and bring into the fold apolitical voters. We can’t blame them for being brainwashed by the media and academia but we can engage them with reason and some will wake up but if we just write people off as stupid then we aren’t doing our job because many of us have been ‘stupid’ in our past.
My biggest issue with the RNC is the unhanded methods they employ to cut off conservatives. So yes, hard to complain they didn’t pour the money in when we gave none, but, and this is a big but - I am not going to willingly believe that the RNC knows what’s best for ME. To cut Cuccinelli off for their own sick reasons and they expect me to believe Rove/Reince knows what is going be best, is utter BS.