Skip to comments.Obama Plans To Force Israel To Accept A Palestinian State With Jerusalem As The Capital
Posted on 11/06/2013 1:35:02 PM PST by IbJensen
If Israel and the Palestinians do not agree on a two state solution by the end of this year, the Obama administration plans to propose its own solution and force it on the two sides in early 2014.
For Obama, the goal is to have this agreement in place in time to influence the November 2014 mid-term elections. Unfortunately for Israel, the Palestinians have absolutely no incentive to move off of their current demands because Obama has been promising them a Palestinian state based on the pre-1967 borders with East Jerusalem as the capital since very early in his presidency. So the Palestinians have no motivation to negotiate in good faith since they already know that they are going to get what they want in the end anyway. Ultimately, Obama plans to force Israel to give up the West Bank, East Jerusalem and control over the Temple Mount in exchange for a promise of peace that is not even worth the paper that it will be printed on.
When it comes to Israel, the arrogance that Obama is displaying is absolutely appalling. For example, Obama made the following statement about Israel earlier this year
Israel doesnt know what its own best interests are.
Oh, but Obama does?
Not only does Obama believe that he knows what is best for Israel, he also plans to force them to do it.
According to IDF Radio, the U.S. government plans to submit its own solution and force the two sides to agree to it if negotiations do not produce an agreement by the end of this year
The United States intends to try and force a peace agreement on Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), IDF Radio reported Monday.
The radio station says the US has informed Israel and the Palestinian Authority that if negotiations between them do not advance, Washington will propose its own solution, that will include a US position on every point that is in contention. In effect, according to the report, this will be an attempt to force the sides to agree on a solution formulated by the US.
It is important to note that IDF radio is actually run by the Israeli military. This would not have been broadcast if the Israeli government had not approved the story.
And the source for the story is actually the head of the left-wing Meretz party
MK Zehava Galon (Meretz) was quoted as saying Monday that senior US officials told her the US offer would be presented in January of 2014. PA sources also cited January as the month in which the US intends to propose, or impose, its plan.
The US moves comes after three months of talks between the sides which have reportedly made very little headway.
The US plan reportedly is similar to the Clinton outline, offered by President Bill Clinton in late 2000, which is based on an Israeli retreat to 1949 Armistice lines, and some swaps of territory.
This report by IDF radio was also echoed by a report in the Jerusalem Post
The head of the left-wing Meretz party, Zahava Gal-On, said Monday that the Obama administration is determined to achieve a major diplomatic breakthrough next year in the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, including arrangements for a final status agreement.
There will be a new diplomatic program, based on the pre-1967 lines with agreed land swaps, Gal-On said in a statement after meeting with Palestinian and American officials on Monday morning.
So why should the Palestinians negotiate?
All they have to do is wait until early next year and they are going to get what they want anyway.
Of course U.S. officials are issuing their typical denials. According to Reuters, U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry says that the U.S. does not plan to implement this kind of a plan at this point in time
At a news conference in Riyadh on Monday, Kerry said there was no such plan at this point in time. He has spoken publicly of possible U.S. bridging proposals if no major progress is made.
But of course Kerrys statement does not rule out that such a plan will be implemented early next year. And at this point it seems very clear that the current negotiations are going nowhere fast. The following is also from the Reuters report mentioned above
Israeli and Palestinian officials said on Tuesday the three-month-old peace talks pressed on them by Washington are going nowhere, painting a grim picture for a visit this week by U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry.
For a long time, the Palestinians have been relying on the fact that the U.S. government has promised them that they will get a state based on pre-1967 borders. In fact, according to a Yahoo news article posted in July, a letter from Kerry guaranteeing this was what got the Palestinians back to the negotiating table in the first place
Israels pre-1967 borders will be the basis of renewed peace talks between Palestine and Israel, according to a letter U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry gave to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas which guaranteed the stipulation.
After Abbas received the Kerry letter, he agreed to resume peace talks with Israel, two senior Palestinian officials said Saturday.
And the biggest stumbling block in the negotiations is the status of Jerusalem. The Palestinians are absolutely determined not to agree to any solution that does not give them control over East Jerusalem. Unfortunately, the Israelis are not nearly as united in their determination not to give it up. In fact, according to the Times of Israel, there is a tremendous amount of discord inside the Israeli negotiating team over what to do about Jerusalem
Israels negotiating team in peace talks with the Palestinians is reportedly facing an internal disagreement on the issue of Jerusalem, with chief negotiator MK Tzipi Livni demonstrating a more flexible approach than that of lawyer Yitzhak Molcho, the special envoy appointed by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
In the end, Obama plans to give control over East Jerusalem and the Temple Mount to the Palestinians. The following is from a WND article from earlier this year
The Obama administration has quietly presented a plan in which the Palestinian Authority and Jordan will receive sovereignty over the Temple Mount while Israel will retain the land below the Western Wall, according to a senior PA negotiator speaking to WND.
And this is not something that Obama came up with recently. The truth is that Obama has been planning this since early on in his presidency. The following is from a WND article all the way back in 2009
President Obama and his administration told Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during a meeting last week the U.S. foresees the creation of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital, according to a top PA official speaking to WND.
The American administration was very friendly to the position of the PA, said Nimer Hamad, Abbas senior political adviser.
Abu Mazen (Abbas) heard from Obama and his administration in a very categorical way that a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital is in the American national and security interest, Hamad said.
What Obama is trying to do is crystal clear, and Israel should immediately walk away from the negotiating table.
Ultimately, nothing good is going to come out of these negotiations anyway. Any peace guarantee that Israel receives will only be temporary.
Palestinian Authority Minister of Religious Affairs Mahmoud Al-Habbash made that abundantly clear during a recent sermon
At the Friday Ramadan services, which were attended by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and broadcast on Palestinian television, Habbash explained to Muslim worshipers that Palestinian Authority officials only through the wisdom of the leadership, conscious action, consideration, and walking the right path are headed toward achievement, exactly like the Prophet [Mohammad] did in the Treaty of Hudaybiyyah, even though some opposed it.
Palestinian Media Watch an Israeli research institution that translates anti-Israel broadcasts in the Palestinian media explains that the Hudaybiyyah peace treaty of 628 A.D. refers to a 10-year truce that Mohammad, Islams Prophet, made with the Quraish Tribe of Mecca. However, two years into the truce, Mohammad attacked and conquered Mecca.
Are you starting to get the picture?
The Palestinians dont plan to establish a real, lasting peace with Israel. In fact, according to one survey two-thirds of all Palestinians believe that the eventual goal of the Palestinians must be to get back all the land for a Palestinian state.
There is not going to be any solution to the Jerusalem issue any time soon even if a peace agreement is forced on Israel and the Palestinians. And this is precisely what the Bible said would happen in the last days. In Zechariah 12:3, we are warned that the city of Jerusalem will one day become a huge stumbling stone for the nations
And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Is that not exactly what has happened?
The entire world is trying to figure out what to do with Jerusalem. It truly is a burdensome stone.
And the U.S. government should be very careful. That passage of Scripture also says that all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces.
If the United States ends up forcing Israel to divide her land, will the U.S. also find itself divided and cut in pieces?
That is a very sobering question.
And it is also interesting to note that all of this is happening just as we are entering the blood red moon tetrad of 2014-2015.
Other blood red moon tetrads throughout history have signaled times of great distress for the Jewish people.
Will it be the same this time around?
What a sick nation we have become to prop up a blithering idiot in desperate need for a frontal lobotomy.
Trayvon could have been his son. Football is too dangerous. This cretin is a pansy-assed cupcake!
I want Bibi to publicly tell him to get F-—ed.
Obama can’t do squat. He lacks the gravitas to succeed in an international endeavor. He is naive.
Real diplomats will overcome his black street thuggery
Abbas FUNDED the Munich Olympic Atrocity.
What possible sense does it make
to trust the terrorist financier?
Obama had best not do this. It would not surprise me if there are Shin Bet and Mossad operatives within 100 feet of him right now. If he tries to end the Jewish state - which this kind of thing would do - then it would be in Israel’s best interests to elevate Joe Biden to the Presidency.
Given that Obama has set the precedent that nations can arbitrarily impose regime change in countries that threaten them then according to the Obama Doctrine the Israelis would have every right in the world to defend themselves by any means necessary.
May a vengeful Angel of the Lord God Almighty take him up and deposit him in Hades.
Israel can ignore Obama without consequence. Most other countries do.
A recruitment drive by Bibi would likely results in several hundred thousand American volunteers ready to defend Israel from it’s enemies.
That would really put Obama’s panties in a twist.
Obama has already chosen his side, and it is with the Muslims per his own words.
Is the another “FINAL SOLUTION to the Jewish problem?”
Bet it is. Anyone surprised at this?
As a post-colonial black racist, Obama does not view the situation so much as Israelis versus Palestinians as Neo-colonial Whites versus exploited people of color (even though Arabs ARE white. Hitler was able to reconcile Japanese and Italians into his “Aryan” phantasy. Maniacs are like that.)
Whose side will the U.S. be on in an Iran/Israel war? Scary no one can answer that.
This delusional piece of dung really thinks he is the ruler of the world..I would love to see the Israelis put a rocket up the part of him the sun doesn’t shine..then again old Reggie might get jealous..
What’s the problem? Israel can give Obama just as much consideration as have Iran, Egypt, Syria, Libya . . .
The Muzzie in Chief is setting Israel up for the fall.
Obama is Amalek, and on general principle should be radioactive dust.
The only downside to that is that is that it’s quick.
It would also be good to see the city of Bergen going up in a mushroom, that would rid me of several family members of Obama’s class. Even if I had to live with some temporary internet disruption, I think it would be a net plus.
Good luck with that.............../s
If they wouldn’t be super strict on physical fitness, sign me up.
Did I miss something? Just what leverage does Obama have to “force” Israel to do anything? They are a sovereign nation, they do not take orders from Owebama.
More likely the fool will have us in the midst of a middle east war in time for the 2014 elections. I don’t see that favoring the Democrats.
Dude, I thought you were in prison after the Utøya thing ...
Got to get that Pali-American vote?
Let him have his fun.
Government is a shiny new toy for the infantile narcissistic homosexual Moslem foreign agent psychopath.
He really does think he is god.
The Bible, inspired by God, says Jerusalem is the capital of the Jews.
Woe to him who thinks differently.
What business does odumbo have telling ANYONE what they can and cannot do. He has NO athourity over anyone INCLUDING the U.S. and is nothing more than a figurehead here in America, unfortunately one who holds a lot of power.
He will fail.
Come on Israel, tell him to kiss your butt. You have the 2d best military in the world. You can defend yourself with the help of Almighty God. Tell the arab thug where he can go.
From the article, sounds like it...
Obama administration is determined to achieve a major diplomatic breakthrough next year in the negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians, including arrangements for a final [solution] status agreement.
I rest my case.
I suspect Utøya was a lefty false flag. More and more is pointing that way.
The old establishment in Norwegian labor, after all, is regularly bragging of “being so red that they make Stalin look like a wuss” (Oddvar Nordli).
All I can say is good luck Chuck. Israel is never going to give up Jerusalem. If they are smart they will never agree to a Fakestinian state.
The world is a very complicated place. Obama can’t do squat abroad. He’s powerless.
Jewish Vote Goes 69 Percent For Barack Obama: Exit Polls
Agree. He is widely viewed with disdain. A lighter than air figure.
Obama: Busy trying to fulfill all the Revelation prophecies in three years, plus 1/2.
A Blood-red moon tetrad occurred in 1949-1950 when Israel became a nation again.
The next blood red mood tetrad occurred in 1967-1968 during the 6 day war when Israel regained all of it’s territory.
The next blood red mood tetrad is forecasted by NASA to occur beginning in 2014 - 2015.
This is when Israel will regain it’s capital.
And Obama will be finished.
Obama is an Anti Semite...and a Kenyan Muslim...no surprise here
Stand with them and die with them. You are truly a real piece of garbage.
Almighty God’s plan will be what happens, not Obama’s. He is proclaiming himself an enemy of God with this thing.
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The One will deem it so.
It’s the next stage of wealth redistribution, taking property from hardworking, middle class whites to poor, backwards brown people.
Liberals are nuts. They say the same crap about conservatives - that we don't act in our own interest. It's almost like the last book they read was Thomas Frank's - What's the Matter With Kansas?
Maybe the only book they've read...
Uh.....Hey Barry...God may have something to say about this.....
God will bring wrath upon this nation should he try. Jerusalem shall always belong to God and the Jewish people. May God bring a cover shelter over Israel and may the Wrath of God be upon them.
Tell Obama to go crap in his hat.
Obama, there is a special place in h*ll for you.
You go ahead and force them dipstick.
Maybe you can read a book to find out
how to do it?