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Fatherís heartache after police SHOOT DEAD son, 19,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2489533/Father-heartache-police-shoot-dead-son.html ^

Posted on 11/07/2013 1:39:26 AM PST by kelly4c

Full title too long, here's the rest: "when he reported van stolen to stop teenager from buying cigarettes"

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: iowa; lawenforcement
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I can't imagine being the father and living with this.
1 posted on 11/07/2013 1:39:26 AM PST by kelly4c
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To: kelly4c

It’s a shame the young man is dead. Having said that it sure seems like stupidity ran in the family.


2 posted on 11/07/2013 1:47:27 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: kelly4c
The Comstock family said that the 19-year-old had recently split up with his girlfriend and was trying to get his life together after spending a few days in jail for disorderly conduct.

DUMB!!!!

3 posted on 11/07/2013 1:55:09 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: kelly4c

Des Moines Register article with police audio:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20131106/NEWS/311060044/?odyssey=nav|head


4 posted on 11/07/2013 1:55:58 AM PST by iowamark (I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy)
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To: vladimir998

Smoking kills.

Joking aside, sad for this man and son. The days of calling the cops over to give the kid a good scare and a talking to(happened a couple of times with me!) are over. As so many threads on FR attest to, be VERY careful in calling the cops. Not to say that this cop was over-aggressive (not knowing the entire story - maybe the kid was trying to run him down or something), but the presence of the cop obviously didn’t help matters.


5 posted on 11/07/2013 1:58:03 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve
maybe the kid was trying to run him down or something

Nah, it had to be the cops fault. /s

Police reported that during the chase with the teenager, Comstock rammed Officer McPherson’s car

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6 posted on 11/07/2013 2:01:35 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: vladimir998
It's not easy to teach young people respect for authority.
This generation may be no worse than previous ones but cops are less prone to tolerate threats because this is becoming a more dangerous environment; mental patients with guns are sprouting like mushrooms.
7 posted on 11/07/2013 2:05:45 AM PST by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: Alaska Wolf
Thanks. I really should read the articles first. (nawwww).

And the cops MIGHT have made it worse, but it sounds like he was already driving erratically and could have hit pedestrians if he continued. (Or did he almost hit them while he was being chased?)

Sounds like he had anger issues too which didn't help.

8 posted on 11/07/2013 2:13:35 AM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: stormhill

Respect authority if authority deserves it.

Lately, there’s a lot of people in those positions that deserve NO respect and it appears to be getting worse.


9 posted on 11/07/2013 2:13:59 AM PST by maddog55
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To: kelly4c

Looks like another case of felonious revving of engine with intent to be uppity. Clearly a danger to the public safety and you can see why the cop had to shoot him. He feared for his life after all. (/s)

That said, the parents are darwin award contenders if they’re calling the police to deal with their parenting issues. What part of: Don’t pick up that phone and dial 9-1-1 unless you’re willing to see someone end up dead are people failing to understand?

Defund the police. A free and well armed people have little need for them.


10 posted on 11/07/2013 2:31:07 AM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

Personally, I decided long ago that the only thing LE was good for was writing up accident reports for the insurance company. I protect myself and family, and we take care of our own problems now.


11 posted on 11/07/2013 2:39:45 AM PST by Gaffer
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Tyler Comstock’s family said Tyler had made mistakes, but he was taking steps to get his life back on track.

Comstock had recently broken up with his girlfriend and was bouncing from house to house in Boone. He had spent several days in jail because of a disorderly conduct charge, the family said.

It's all the cops fault!

12 posted on 11/07/2013 2:48:51 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Gaffer
and as historians.

13 posted on 11/07/2013 2:56:18 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Unfortunately, historians from their own twisted, self-serving point of view.


14 posted on 11/07/2013 2:58:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: maddog55
Don't disagree.
However, it's prudent to respect any authority with a license to kill you whether they deserve that respect or not.

The wise place to fight the tyranny is at the ballot box and the political power levers; in the street, walk circumspectly and live to fight another day.

15 posted on 11/07/2013 2:58:26 AM PST by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: kelly4c

So, trying to cut through the emotional BS and hand-ringing in the article it sounds something like:

1. Dumb dad sicks the cops on his son (what could possibly go wrong?)

2. Dumb son decides that pulling over is for suckers, he’ll just get in a car chase with the cops (what could possibly go wrong?)

3. After watching Dumbass Jr. nearly run over a few folks before crashing the truck, officers decide to permanently end the chase via the Smith and Wesson brand of conflict resolution before Dumbass Jr. can get the truck rolling again for round 2 of GTA 6: Iowa State University.

A quote from one of the articles: “So he didn’t shut the damn truck off, so let’s fire six rounds at him? We’re confused, and we don’t understand,” said the boy’s Step-Grandfather.

Yeah, well, I’m betting that’s not your first time being confused. Given the fact that Dumbass Jr. refused to pull over, sent a lawn and garden truck careening through a college campus, and then acted like he was trying to get the crashed truck moving again in order to plow through more student-infested college grounds, I can see why the officers there thought Dumbass Jr. wasn’t going to cooperate and was going to end up being a threat to more pedestrians. Come on, college students don’t even look up to see where the normal traffic is, you think they’ve got enough situational awareness to avoid someone crashing a truck through the lawn and parking lots?

Trying to get the cops off your ass by speeding through the college grounds is likely going to get someone killed. The fact that the step-grandad can’t grasp that leads me to believe that Dumbass Jr. was just continuing a family tradition of dumbassery.

Not that I advocate shooting every dumbass kid that thinks it’s a good idea to start a car chase with the police. I would have been happier if police had ripped Dumbass Jr. out of the truck and utilized non-lethal means of encouraging compliance until such a point that Dumbass Jr. ceased being a threat to life and limb, however that kind of response is not always going to be an option.

If the remaining options are letting someone play demolition derby on the ISU campus or shooting the dumbass, then I’m going to have to cast a vote for shooting the dumbass. Overall, it sounds like the officer shooting the kid was making a more rational decision than either the father or the son in this story.


16 posted on 11/07/2013 3:05:17 AM PST by jameslalor
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IndyStar.com (Gannett - link only). . .

http://www.indystar.com/article/D2/20131106/NEWS/311060044/Exclusive-Interview-ISU-case-police-action-baffles-family?nclick_check=1


17 posted on 11/07/2013 3:08:14 AM PST by deks
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To: RKBA Democrat

That father must not keep up with the news. I’ll admit to calling the police on my daughter many years ago after she took off in the car drunk at 16. I was worried about her state of mind, her safety, and that of others. They never did find her, we did. Now it’s a different story. It’s a rotten shame when those who once kept law and order (helped keep the public safe) are now the ones to be feared.

And without having all the details I’ll reserve judgement on this particular case however my first thoughts were the same.


18 posted on 11/07/2013 3:08:19 AM PST by kelly4c (http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post?id=2900389%2C41#help)
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To: 21twelve

Police reported that during the chase with the teenager, Comstock rammed Officer McPherson’s car. Once the truck had stopped, the teenager refused to turn it off and revved the engine.

Yeah, being stuck up against the tree like that sure endangered the cop's life.

19 posted on 11/07/2013 3:14:01 AM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: jameslalor
If the remaining options are letting someone play demolition derby on the ISU campus or shooting the dumbass, then I’m going to have to cast a vote for shooting the dumbass. Overall, it sounds like the officer shooting the kid was making a more rational decision than either the father or the son in this story.

If the punk had run into a group of students killing and injuring some, people would be complaining the cops didn't do anything to stop it.

20 posted on 11/07/2013 3:22:09 AM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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