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Black Woman Shot Dead in 'White Detroit Suburb' After Knocking Door-to-Door for Help...
ChristianPost.com ^ | November 7, 2013 | Morgan Lee

Posted on 11/07/2013 10:41:41 AM PST by equaviator

A community is looking for answers after 19-year-old Renisha McBride was shot in the head after seeking the help of residents in what media reports are describing as a predominantly white Detroit suburb following a car crash in the early morning of Nov. 4.

While Dearborn Heights authorities have refused to release details of the investigation, they have "identified the person who fired the shot and killed the woman."

According to her family, McBride was likely forced to go door-to-door because her cell phone had died.

"She probably wanted to ask him to make a call for her or if she could use the phone," said McBride's maternal aunt, Bernita Spinks told WJBK News.

Yet McBride and others have no idea how their loved one ended up dead.

"This man just came to the door, by somebody just knocking? She didn't break in his house; she didn't break a window. What, you seen somebody on your porch and you just start shooting? And then you say it was accidental? That wasn't accidental; that wasn't accidental, no," Spinks said.

The family believes that McBride, who is black, was likely racially profiled and is relieved that the police have decided to seek charges in the case.

"I just want justice. I'm not going to stop until we get it," Spinks told Detroit News.

At a Wednesday night vigil, close to 40 family members and friends gathered to pray and share in their grief. Some chanted "No justice, no peace" and "Justice for Renisha."

"We are not going to let him get away with this senseless act he committed against this 19-year-old girl," Rev. W.J. Rideout told Detroit News.

According to Spinks, prosecutors have informed family members that the shooter is in his 50's. An autopsy has not yet been released.

McBride's case recalls a September incident where 24-year-old Jonathan Ferrell knocked on the front door of a house in Georgia in the early morning following a car accident. The homeowner, instead of opening the door, called 911. When three police officers arrived, Ferrell ran towards the squad before officer Randall Kerrick drew his gun and shot him 10 times, killing the unarmed Ferrell.


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Dearborn Heights?
1 posted on 11/07/2013 10:41:41 AM PST by equaviator
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To: equaviator

Now, if the facts in this case bear out like being presented you have a reason to have legitimate outrage, too bad the leftists wasted it on hoodies and skittles


2 posted on 11/07/2013 10:43:44 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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To: equaviator

A tragedy. Ultimately of godlessness.


3 posted on 11/07/2013 10:44:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: equaviator

I’m surprised Obama hasn’t commented on this one yet.


4 posted on 11/07/2013 10:44:57 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Agreed.


5 posted on 11/07/2013 10:45:42 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
I haven't heard anything about this story so I'm withholding judgement.

Meanwhile last night in Detroit 9 people were shot (3 killed) over a gambling dispute.

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6 posted on 11/07/2013 10:45:57 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: HamiltonJay

That is true... the Trayvonmania sort of “crying wolf” takes a toll on credibility of what ought to be credible.

It might also simply be a “white trash” thing and he would have also shot a white teen in the same circumstances. White trash, same as anyone else, must repent or go to hell.


7 posted on 11/07/2013 10:46:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: equaviator
The family believes that McBride, who is black, was likely racially profiled...

Everyone racially profiles everyone else.

8 posted on 11/07/2013 10:49:45 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the Libs say we are.)
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To: HamiltonJay

I doubt the reporting on this is any more factual than all the early reports on Saint Skittles.


9 posted on 11/07/2013 10:49:52 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: equaviator

This sounds like the DISTRACTION Obama needs


10 posted on 11/07/2013 10:50:20 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: equaviator

‘The family believes that McBride, who is black, was likely racially profiled...’

Really? How do they know at this point what caused the shooting?


11 posted on 11/07/2013 10:50:25 AM PST by 556x45
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To: equaviator
Dearborn Heights?

It's a a predominantly white Detroit suburb. In Michigan.

12 posted on 11/07/2013 10:50:40 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: HamiltonJay

Wearing it out if not having wasted it.


13 posted on 11/07/2013 10:51:53 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: equaviator

Likely scenario.....injured party displayed the wrong sort of attitude when seeking assistance....

“HEY GET YO AZZ TO THE DOOR...Im hurt here you creepy azz cracker”...?


14 posted on 11/07/2013 10:52:54 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: molson209

Something is definitely missing from the story. Lots of expected outrage and speculation from the family and nothing from the other side.


15 posted on 11/07/2013 10:53:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: equaviator
The family seems to have a very elaborate theory of precisely what went on at the time of the shooting.

BTW, I recently had a woman fitting McBride's general description come up to me on the street and ask me if she could borrow my smartphone to make a call.

Not being born yesterday, I declined.

When I said no, I was called a racist.

I would not let a complete stranger inside my house in the wee hours of the morning either.

We do not know if McBride had a companion with her who conveniently disappeared when the situation went south.

16 posted on 11/07/2013 10:55:08 AM PST by wideawake
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To: equaviator
It's outside Dearborn, west of Dearborn. Blue collar suburb.

According to local news reports, the time was 2:30 in the morning! TWO THIRTY A.M.!!!!! I think that needs to be made clear. I'm not condoning or blaming.

17 posted on 11/07/2013 10:55:11 AM PST by FrdmLvr ("WE ARE ALL OSAMA, 0BAMA!" al-Qaeda terrorists who breached the American compound in Benghazi)
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To: 1rudeboy

I should think it would depend on what part of Dearborn Heights.

Historically, it used to be an ethnic community of Catholic minorities such as Poles. But more recently, it has black neighborhoods, I believe, and also a substantial Muslim population—which is why it is often called Dearbornistan.


18 posted on 11/07/2013 10:56:44 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: FrdmLvr

Its never a good idea knocking on doors at 2AM. If you do, look for a house with the lights on and be calm.


19 posted on 11/07/2013 10:57:01 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Cicero

Sorry, was speaking of Dearborn itself. Don’t know about Heights.


20 posted on 11/07/2013 10:57:52 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

And you would believe incorrectly.


21 posted on 11/07/2013 10:58:11 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

When I lived in the area seems to me Dearborn Heights was predominantly Arab?


22 posted on 11/07/2013 10:58:30 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Perhaps.

But a classic push-in robbery situation - committed by methheads of even the most rarified Scandinavian extraction - is the woman in distress needing to get into a house to use the phone, while her boyfriend stands just out of the homeowner's line of sight.

23 posted on 11/07/2013 10:58:31 AM PST by wideawake
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To: equaviator
How many doors had she knocked on before this guy shot her? Obviously this is proof that the whole neighborhood and all whites are racists. The neighbors probably called each other to coordinate the event. --- Like others have said, I don't trust we have all the facts yet. I also hesitate to yet believe this was racially motivated.
24 posted on 11/07/2013 10:58:55 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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To: TangoLimaSierra
Since the shooter's race was not reported (very strange) it's only conjecture to assume he's white.
Still, even if he's black, that doesn't preclude "racial profiling," a term that's completely meaningless. After all even the Most Exalted Right Rev Doctor Jesse the Great Jackson has enough sense to know he's in danger when walking the street at night being followed by a young black.
25 posted on 11/07/2013 10:59:58 AM PST by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Likely scenario.....injured party displayed the wrong sort of attitude when seeking assistance....

Even if that's what happened, does it justify a shooting?

26 posted on 11/07/2013 11:00:24 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: equaviator

No responsible gun owner should ever take Joe Biden’s advice about self defense, or the ownership or use of guns.

If Joe Biden tried to unwrap a Twinkie with a crayon, somebody would probably get hurt, then arrested.


27 posted on 11/07/2013 11:00:39 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Welfare is the new euphemism for Eugenics.)
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To: b4its2late

Not much to add. Just the usual “hunting season on black children”. Oh, wait that wasn’t king hussein that said that. No. It was someone else that said that. But it might as well have been him. If he only had a daughter. Oh, wait again. He does. Hope neither one of them is punished with a baby anytime soon.


28 posted on 11/07/2013 11:00:45 AM PST by rktman (Let sleeping wives lie.)
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To: Cicero
I used to work in Dearborn, right on the border with Detroit. Great Lebanese restaurants.

It's not very fashionable to admit on FR, but the muzzies saved Dearborn from the scourge that inflicts their neighbors to the east.

29 posted on 11/07/2013 11:00:54 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: TangoLimaSierra

How many incidents of someone using a “woman in distress” as a decoy for a home invasion have happened in this area?

I wouldn’t let her in, but I wouldn’t shoot her, either.
Call the cops, yes. Tell her I did, yes. Let her in, no. Shoot, no.


30 posted on 11/07/2013 11:01:37 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: FrdmLvr
According to local news reports, the time was 2:30 in the morning! TWO THIRTY A.M.!!!!! I think that needs to be made clear. I'm not condoning or blaming.

Good point. At that hour, I answer the door armed and with suspicious expectations at least. I expect something bad and don't like where it is going. It might not take much to be pushed into fear of life.

Also, what was she doing out at 2:30AM? I too am not taking sides yet as I doubt all the details are out there or accurate.

31 posted on 11/07/2013 11:02:03 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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To: wideawake

“Fine, I’m a racist. But I still have my phone!”


32 posted on 11/07/2013 11:02:39 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Tenacious 1

Lots of insinuated racism in the story with zero evidence to back it up. Interestingly enough, the day after Rachael Madcow declared the Detroit election to be racist because they elected the first white mayor since Coleman Young.


33 posted on 11/07/2013 11:03:19 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: equaviator

I read where she was shot in the back of the head ... like she was leaving. If so, that’s murder.


34 posted on 11/07/2013 11:04:27 AM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: 1rudeboy
It's not very fashionable to admit on FR, but the muzzies saved Dearborn from the scourge that inflicts their neighbors to the east.

All the suburbs of Detroit are in far better shape. Lots of Christian arabs in the area too.
35 posted on 11/07/2013 11:05:10 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Even if that's what happened, does it justify a shooting?

It REALLY depends on what was said, how it was said and who it was said to. If a 6'6" 340LB offensive lineman tells a 15 year old girl, "Let me use your phone or I'm going to kill/rape/hurt you!", the girl should shoot him and call the police. Right?

We may never know what all happened and why. Again, I am not taking sides yet. I waited on the Saint Skittles case and am glad I did.

36 posted on 11/07/2013 11:05:28 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
When I lived in the area seems to me Dearborn Heights was predominantly Arab?

I haven't been there for a couple of years, either, but if Dearborn Heights had any Arabs, they probably were Chaldean.

37 posted on 11/07/2013 11:05:31 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: SkyDancer
I read where she was shot in the back of the head ... like she was leaving. If so, that’s murder.

If true, I agree.
38 posted on 11/07/2013 11:05:58 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: MrB
You would have to be crazy to hand someone your phone - especially a woman - on the street in NYC.

She could just walk away, and what would you do?

If it were a guy you maybe could just slug him and get it back if you could catch him and he had no accomplices.

39 posted on 11/07/2013 11:07:52 AM PST by wideawake
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To: equaviator
It is tragic that someone could be killed while sincerely seeking help after an accident.

However, this is just an unintended consequence of Obama's race war against whites, and the ongoing coast-to-coast racially motivated crimes against whites by black criminals.

96% of black voters voted for the muslim, communist, anti-American, racist POS Obama. 96% of them obviously joined him in his war against America.

A reasonable person would assume that 96% of their encounters with blacks would be with someone who has criminal intent against them personally.

40 posted on 11/07/2013 11:08:01 AM PST by meadsjn
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To: Tenacious 1
It REALLY depends on what was said, how it was said and who it was said to. If a 6'6" 340LB offensive lineman tells a 15 year old girl, "Let me use your phone or I'm going to kill/rape/hurt you!", the girl should shoot him and call the police. Right?

With a locked door between the offensive lineman and the girl? Probably not, no. If/when the guy starts trying to break down the door, then sure.

I agree that it's too early to jump to any conclusions. But, at first glance, this just doesn't smell right.

41 posted on 11/07/2013 11:08:36 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: equaviator
Here's another version of the story: Link

The homeowner is claiming the shotgun went off by accident, no surprise there. She wasn't shot in the back, which the family claimed. Nobody has made any claim that she was armed or that she was trying to force a door open or anything like that. The homeowner likely panicked and shot on sight.

The homeowner probably should have called 911 and let the police come and shoot her, like that case down in Georgia recently.

42 posted on 11/07/2013 11:08:36 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SkyDancer
I read where she was shot in the back of the head ... like she was leaving. If so, that’s murder.

If that is precisely how it happened, then certainly.

43 posted on 11/07/2013 11:08:42 AM PST by wideawake
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To: meadsjn
However, this is just an unintended consequence of Obama's race war against whites,

Obama doesn't have the power to make me a racist.
44 posted on 11/07/2013 11:09:33 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
But, at first glance, this just doesn't smell right.

That's what is great about FR. I remember even on the TM case, amidst several debates about Zimmerman, MANY MANY FReepers kept posting, "We don't have all the facts yet!"

BTW - Me too.

45 posted on 11/07/2013 11:10:57 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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To: FrdmLvr

“I’m not condoning or blaming.”

Neither am I but going door-to-door like that? I dunno...


46 posted on 11/07/2013 11:11:31 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

given that we dont know what she said...and how .when approaching the homeowner I dont know.

was she was acting in a threatening manner?

..the shooter likely wasnt in the mood to be vicitimized and may have reacted too rapidly..

I can only offer likely scenarios


47 posted on 11/07/2013 11:12:10 AM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: equaviator

I profile when someone knocks on my door. I am a civilian homeowner and can profile how I chose! I have friends who drop by from time to time during daylight hours, but never at night without calling first. A stranger at my door during the day light would be very rare. At night a stranger would be immediately seen as a very possible threat.


48 posted on 11/07/2013 11:12:50 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DoodleDawg
The homeowner probably should have called 911 and let the police come and shoot her

That is horrible, insensitive, belligerent and a little funny too. Shame on you.

49 posted on 11/07/2013 11:13:16 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals want to be eaten last. I don't want to be eaten at all!)
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To: DoodleDawg
The "accident" thing is BS, and meaningless. The homeowner had the gun pointed at her, and should be held fully responsible for any discharge of the weapon, whether he "intended" to shoot or not.

One very strange thing from that article, though:

“I’ll confirm that she was in an accident in Detroit and that she left the accident scene, and then some hours transpired” before the shooting, Serwatowski said. He declined to say what police believe she was doing before and after the accident.

What happened in the interim? Was she knocked out in the accident? Drunk? Otherwise disoriented? Odd...

50 posted on 11/07/2013 11:13:54 AM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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