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The Knives Come Out -- for Christie
Townhall.com ^ | November 8, 2013 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 11/08/2013 6:52:38 AM PST by Kaslin

"Maybe the folks in Washington, D.C., should tune in their TVs right now and see how it's done," said the big winner of Tuesday last.

"I did not seek a second term to do small things," Chris Christie went on, but "to finish the job -- now watch me do it."

Humility is not the governor's strong suit.

Yet, Christie registered a remarkable victory. He won with 60 percent in a blue state, winning 55 percent of women, half of the Hispanic vote and 20 percent of African-Americans.

If he could replicate those numbers in New Jersey and nationally in 2016, Chris Christie would be elected president in a landslide.

"[T]his fellow is really on the right track," says seven-term Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah, "if the Republican Party is not too stupid." To fill out Christie's ticket in 2016, Hatch proposes Susana Martinez of New Mexico, who made eight campaign stops with Christie on Monday.

Democrats concur with Hatch. The headline on the lead story on page one of Thursday's Washington Post reads: "Democrats Take Aim at Christie: He's Seen as GOP's Best Hope for 2016."

"The Elephant in the Room" is the title of Time's cover story.

And with the corporate contributors and Beltway bundlers gravitating to him, Christie is emerging as the establishment's hope to recapture the GOP from its Tea Party, libertarian, social conservative and populist wing.

Will Christie be the candidate in 2016?

Put me down as a skeptic.

Some of us yet recall James "Scotty" Reston of the New York Times writing in 1963 that Nelson Rockefeller had as much chance of losing the Republican nomination as he did of going broke.

Comes the retort: Christie is no Nelson Rockefeller, but a pro-life conservative with five kids and Middle American values.

Why then the skepticism?

Geography, persona and culture -- for openers.

The Republican Party is a Southern, Midwestern and Western party, suburban and rural. Not since Tom Dewey in 1948 has the GOP nominated a candidate from the urban Northeast.

And Chris Christie is not only from New Jersey; he is indelibly and proudly so.

The candidate who comes closest to him is Rudy Giuliani, hero of 9/11. Christie may be the hero of Hurricane Sandy, but Sandy is not remembered nationwide like the shock and horror 9/11.

As Rudy won two terms in the toughest turf in America for a Republican, New York City, Christie has now won two terms in New Jersey.

So, how did Rudy, who started off 2008 as the front-runner in the Republican polls, do? He did not win a single primary.

Then, there is the "in-your-face" persona of Christie, a pol who does not suffer fools gladly and is forever finding them along rope lines and at town hall meetings.

Not a good fit for Cedar Rapids or Sioux City.

Moreover, Christie seems to have no coattails. Despite his triumph, he failed to make significant gains in the state House or state Senate, both of which remain solidly Democratic.

Then there is the reputation Christie has built as a self-centered politician. At the 2012 GOP convention, his prime-time address was the political counterpart of Walt Whitman's "Song of Myself." Mitt Romney went unmentioned until 16 minutes into the speech.

According to Chuck Todd of NBC, though heading for a blowout, Christie rebuffed a desperate plea to come down to Virginia for a few hours to help Ken Cuccinelli, whose late surge almost won the state.

And while Christie embraced and thanked President Obama profusely for federal assistance during Sandy, when asked about a visit by his party nominee Romney to view the damage, he retorted, "I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested."

Christie trounced state Sen. Barbara Buono, who was abandoned by her party. Yet, according to an NBC poll, were he running for president against Hillary, Christie would lose New Jersey 48-44.

In congratulating the governor, the Wall Street Journal noted that Christie has failed "to improve the state's economy. New Jersey ranks 49th in the Tax Foundation's state business tax climate index, ahead of only New York. The state jobless rate is still 8.5 percent, among the 10 highest in the country."

Christie appears to be peaking more than two years before the Iowa caucuses. And not only will Democrats be spending 26 months blocking him in Trenton and trashing him nationally, so, too, will those elements in the GOP who see in the coalescing Chamber of Commerce-Beltway elite alliance a plot to seize the party from them.

These folks will not be going gentle into that good night.

Nor is Christie being helped by all the bouquets being tossed his way by a media that regards his party's base as extremist. If a civil war is coming inside the GOP, does Chris Christie wish to be the champion of the establishment?

Because that is where the forces assembling are pushing him.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey
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1 posted on 11/08/2013 6:52:38 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
All we need to know


2 posted on 11/08/2013 6:55:38 AM PST by darkwing104 (Do not take my word for it, these are my opinions...Do your own Homework)
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To: Kaslin
Not since Tom Dewey in 1948 has the GOP nominated a candidate from the urban Northeast.

Whut? Romney doesn't count?

3 posted on 11/08/2013 6:57:22 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Kaslin

Eric Bolling spoke for me yesterday when he said he could not vote for this guy.

RINOs don’t work! If they did, we would have seen President Romney, President McCain, and President Dole.


4 posted on 11/08/2013 6:57:45 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Kaslin

Hope Christie hires Karl Rove, so they both go down together


5 posted on 11/08/2013 6:58:15 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Kaslin
Will Christie be the candidate in 2016?

HOPEFULLY NFW....

6 posted on 11/08/2013 6:58:45 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: darkwing104

Bump!


7 posted on 11/08/2013 7:01:25 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Kaslin

“The Republican Party is a Southern, Midwestern and Western party, suburban and rural. Not since Tom Dewey in 1948 has the GOP nominated a candidate from the urban Northeast.”

Dear Pat - where was Romney from again?????? Gov. of what state?

duh........


8 posted on 11/08/2013 7:03:22 AM PST by Arlis (.)
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To: Red in Blue PA
RINOs don’t work! If they did, we would have seen President Romney, President McCain, and President Dole.

But we did see a Richard "Wage and Price Controls" Nixon, George "No New Taxes" Bush #41 and George "Compassionate Conservative" Bush #43.

9 posted on 11/08/2013 7:05:06 AM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Kaslin
Key passage:

Moreover, Christie seems to have no coattails. Despite his triumph, he failed to make significant gains in the state House or state Senate, both of which remain solidly Democratic.

Then there is the reputation Christie has built as a self-centered politician. At the 2012 GOP convention, his prime-time address was the political counterpart of Walt Whitman's "Song of Myself." Mitt Romney went unmentioned until 16 minutes into the speech.

According to Chuck Todd of NBC, though heading for a blowout, Christie rebuffed a desperate plea to come down to Virginia for a few hours to help Ken Cuccinelli, whose late surge almost won the state.

And while Christie embraced and thanked President Obama profusely for federal assistance during Sandy, when asked about a visit by his party nominee Romney to view the damage, he retorted, "I have no idea, nor am I the least bit concerned or interested."

Giuliani had the same problem. Zero coattails. You get to kiss his ring, and he gets to kick your ass. Is it any wonder that he'll get zero support from other pols? Given the way he publicly screwed Romney, it's kind of weird that Hatch is sucking up to Christie in a such a public way. Is he hoping that Christie's funders will throw some money his way?
10 posted on 11/08/2013 7:05:24 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Kaslin
If a civil war is coming inside the GOP, does Chris Christie wish to be the champion of the establishment?

Because that is where the forces assembling are pushing him.

Pat Buchanan nails it. Chris Christie is being groomed to be the 'antidote' to the Tea Party movement inside the 'establishment' Republican party. He is the wrong person for the assignment. Brash and even obnoxious, to quasi-liberal RNC honchos, Christie probably looks like the 'tough guy' who will kick those upstart conservatives to the curb. Think again RINOs. Conservatives are fed up to the eyeballs with RINO politics and big boy Christie will get back whatever he dishes out and will alienate millions of voters in the process.

Fat Boy is going down hard and all his New Jersey bravado won't save his sorry hide.

11 posted on 11/08/2013 7:05:29 AM PST by Jim Scott
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To: Kaslin

Polls show that Christie will lose new Jersey to Hillary in 2016. A RINO who cannot win his home state, will never occupy the oval office. I will not vote for Mr. Christie if he is the Republican nominee even if Satan himself, horns and tail for all to see, is on the democratic ticket.

Christie will lose the presidency just like Romney and McCain before him…but his huge ego will prevent him from understanding why even after the votes are counted. He will blame someone else.


12 posted on 11/08/2013 7:06:50 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Arlis; Timber Rattler

I guess they consider that the Mittster is from Michigan because he was born there . . .


13 posted on 11/08/2013 7:10:04 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: longfellowsmuse

I’m not voting for ANY RINOS and Krispy Creme has demonstrated he is a full blown RINO with ties to the MARXISTS.

I just won’t vote if he’s the nominee. Won’t be worth the time.


14 posted on 11/08/2013 7:14:29 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: darkwing104

The knives are out for Christie?

They’ll need flensing knives to carve out all that blubber. But what I hate most about Gov. Krispy Crisco is not his weight, not his RINO-ness, but that he is a “Mohammed Atta” muzzie-lover!

Why doesn’t he just celebrate his victory with a minaret over the state house?


15 posted on 11/08/2013 7:16:49 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Kaslin

Anti-gun East coast RINO.

What could go wrong?

No thanks.


16 posted on 11/08/2013 7:18:42 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: unixfox

I recommend voting anyway and writing in a candidate or 3rd party independent. The side counts and polls do reflect what’s on America’s mind, so even a so-called wasted vote for an independent candidate is counted and has meaning and is definitely not wasted.


17 posted on 11/08/2013 7:20:46 AM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Kaslin
Chris Christie can join the great RINO moderate gaggle of presidential timber: President Dole, President McCain, and President Romney. Oh, wait, they LOST. Someone tell the GOPee RINO Establishment.

The strategists in the GOPee have declared war on their base and that speaks and smells of desperation. They will reap the whirl wind.

18 posted on 11/08/2013 7:21:12 AM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: darkwing104; All

Can someone photoshop this pic onto the Laurel & Hardy pic that was used with Ted Kennedy and Kerry?


19 posted on 11/08/2013 7:22:03 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: Kaslin
The Republican Party is a Southern, Midwestern and Western party, suburban and rural. Not since Tom Dewey in 1948 has the GOP nominated a candidate from the urban Northeast.

Huh? Maybe Romney wasn't from there but he was there.

20 posted on 11/08/2013 7:24:30 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: darkwing104
"All we need to know."

It is funny, but your comment probably refers to Christie palling around with Obama, whereas when I saw the photo I immediately thought, "No way is the country going to elect a guy that fat as president." Time magazine is already playing that angle with its unsubtle "Elephant in the room" title.
21 posted on 11/08/2013 7:29:28 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: darkwing104

I can’t look at that picture without hearing the theme song from The Courtship Of Eddie’s Father;

People let me tell you ‘bout my best friend,
He’s a warm hearted person who’ll love me till the end.
People let me tell you bout my best friend,
He’s a one boy cuddly toy, my up, my down, my pride and joy.

People let me tell you ‘bout him he’s so much fun
Whether we’re talkin’ man to man or whether we’re talking son to son.
Cause he’s my best friend.
Yes he’s my best friend.

And then I get very ill....


22 posted on 11/08/2013 7:30:57 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: Steve_Seattle

The U.S. elected Taft a century ago. I figure we’re due. :)


23 posted on 11/08/2013 7:31:03 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

“The U.S. elected Taft a century ago. I figure we’re due. :)”

The term for it is “Chubby Chaser.”

From the urban dictionary; 1. chubby chaser
A person of any sexuality who is attracted to another person who is overweight.


24 posted on 11/08/2013 7:35:55 AM PST by areukiddingme1 (areukiddingme1 is a synonym for a Retired U.S. Navy Chief Petty Officer and tired of liberal BS.))
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To: Kaslin
GOP Motto:

"Doing our part to keep conservatives away from the polls since 1988!"

25 posted on 11/08/2013 7:36:01 AM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Kaslin
The Knives Come Out -- for Christie

The one time they are serious about cutting the pork...

26 posted on 11/08/2013 7:37:42 AM PST by 70times7 (Serving Free Republics' warped and obscure humor needs since 1999!)
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To: Kaslin

I like Christie better than Romney and Romney better than McCain but I am damning with faint praise here. We’ve tried RINOs the last two cycles and that didn’t come close to succeeding. I’d love to have a 2016 candidate actually say that.


27 posted on 11/08/2013 7:39:24 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Howdy to all you government agents spying on me.)
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To: Kaslin

OK Without looking it up on Google——who ran against Chris Christie???? Nuff said.


28 posted on 11/08/2013 7:42:27 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Kaslin

Interesting to see the comparison to Guiliani. Although Guiliani was way, WAY too liberal for my tastes on several very key issues of mine, and I would NEVER have supported him for the presidency, at least he was likeable and I had some genuine respect for him. He truly accomplished something big, by turning around NYC, which seemed impossible at the time. And he also distinctly demonstrated a few times that he had an independent streak and wouldn’t a toady hack for the beltway GOP establishment.

Christie is a ludicrous joke. From his slobbering embrace of Obama, to his barking at the GOP-ers in Congress for more moolah, to his crying over a phone call from Bruce Springsteen (which is pathetic beyond words), to his obvious willingness to be the GOP-E’s hatchet-man against the tea-party, Chris Christie is one big, repugnant piece of debris.


29 posted on 11/08/2013 7:52:24 AM PST by greene66
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To: greene66

Guiliani was called America’s mayor for nothing after the 9/11/ 2001 Terrorist attack


30 posted on 11/08/2013 8:04:51 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Christie beat a very weak candidate who had no real support from her party. The lack of that support stems from the fact that Democrats would like nothing better than to run against Christie come 2016. Why hurt his chances? ...Of course there were no coattails. Had this been a presidential election, the citizens of NJ would have voted for any Democrat over him. Christie has made his bed with illegals, gays and Obama (the last two aren’t intended as a redundancy). Conservatives don’t want to crawl into bed with him.


31 posted on 11/08/2013 8:05:03 AM PST by pallis
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To: darkwing104

I agree


32 posted on 11/08/2013 8:05:22 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin
The Knives Come Out -- for Christie

Ahhh, he's going to be a succulent bird, that one........

33 posted on 11/08/2013 8:11:11 AM PST by varon (Para bellum)
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To: Kaslin
He has a good shot at being the 2016 candidate. The main party controllers want him.

If/when that happens, and it is Hillary as the Dem candidate, how do you vote?

34 posted on 11/08/2013 8:11:13 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Timber Rattler
The difference is the Media did not declare Romney the winner like they did Dewey


35 posted on 11/08/2013 8:12:41 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Jim Scott

The liberals will use Christie to try to destroy the Tea Party, then once that’s accomplished, they will destroy him.


36 posted on 11/08/2013 8:14:17 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: b4its2late

If you noticed Pat Buchanan doesn’t think so


37 posted on 11/08/2013 8:14:37 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Red in Blue PA

We need to make clear to the GOP not to fall for the rats suggestion who would be best for us. The truth is what the rats mean is what is best for them. If you know what I mean.


38 posted on 11/08/2013 8:17:37 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Jim Scott

He sure did


39 posted on 11/08/2013 8:19:00 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Sooth2222
George "No New Taxes" Bush #41

Either you do not remember or you are to young, but GHWB was forced by the rats to renege on his promise not to raise taxes. So stop this nonsense

40 posted on 11/08/2013 8:22:45 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Sooth2222
George "No New Taxes" Bush #41

Either you do not remember or you are to young, but GHWB was forced by the rats to renege on his promise not to raise taxes. So stop this nonsense

41 posted on 11/08/2013 8:23:38 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: dfwgator
"The liberals will use Christie to try to destroy the Tea Party, then once that’s accomplished, they will destroy him."

Exactly, the old two-step: first proclaim Christie as the only viable model for Republican victory, then - once he's the nominee - denounce him as extremist, corrupt, and vain, and mock him for his girth.
42 posted on 11/08/2013 8:30:36 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle

I suspect Christie will lose the weight by 2016, he’s already lost considerable weight since the lap band surgery.


43 posted on 11/08/2013 8:32:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin
but GHWB was forced by the rats to renege on his promise not to raise taxes.

"The Buck Stops Here."

44 posted on 11/08/2013 8:33:18 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin

If Jabba ever , I mean ever campaigns for POTUS in my neck of the woods in Texas, he will be eating rotten fruit.


45 posted on 11/08/2013 8:34:13 AM PST by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Timber Rattler

They apparently knew Romney wasn’t a real candidate and would lose, everyone, even Truman, thought Dewey would win.


46 posted on 11/08/2013 8:35:08 AM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: redgolum

“If/when that happens, and it is Hillary as the Dem candidate, how do you vote?”

Write in Ted Cruz.


47 posted on 11/08/2013 8:36:31 AM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: b4its2late

Donut Boy will not beat Thunder Thighs...That’s why liberals will go easy on him and if his butt ends up the republican nominee they will slice and dice his big white @ss into nothing.


48 posted on 11/08/2013 8:37:31 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: OrangeHoof

See my post #38


49 posted on 11/08/2013 8:37:50 AM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

No he wasn’t. Reagan would not have folded under the pressure that Bush 41 was subjected to. And that’s the difference. Character.


50 posted on 11/08/2013 8:39:16 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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