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US, France, Britain: Iran nuclear negotiations have reached an abrupt halt (France holds the line)
Jerusalem Post ^ | 11/09/2013 13:01

Posted on 11/09/2013 6:18:24 AM PST by Dave346

After negotiating with help of US secretary of state, French FM stresses importance of Israel's security concerns, says there will be no deal; US diplomats tell 'LA Times' talks will continue at least into next week.

France said on Saturday there was no certainty nuclear talks under way with Iran in Geneva would succeed because of major stumbling blocks over an initial proposed text on a deal, and the importance of Israel's security concerns.

"As I speak to you, I cannot say there is any certainty that we can conclude" the talks, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on France Inter radio, noting that France could not accept a "sucker's deal".

Top diplomats from Iran and six world powers are in a third day of negotiations over Iran's nuclear program to try to end a decade-old standoff. The West suspects that Iran is enriching uranium to develop nuclear weapons capability. Tehran denies this.

"The security concerns of Israel and all the countries of the region have to be taken into account," Fabius said.

Among the sticking points for Paris, Fabius said that France wanted Iran to stop operations at its Arak reactor during the negotiations and said there were questions about Iran's stock of uranium enriched to 20 percent.

France has traditionally taken a tougher line on Iran than most other world powers and Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif has accused it of being more intransigent in talks than the United States.

Among the sticking points, Fabius said, was a call for Iran to halt operations at its Arak research reactor - a potential producer of bomb-grade plutonium - while the negotiating process goes on, as well as questions about Iran's stock of uranium enriched to 20 percent of fissile purity.

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1 posted on 11/09/2013 6:18:24 AM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346

France?!


2 posted on 11/09/2013 6:20:22 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

“French FM stresses importance of Israel’s security concerns”


France??!! That’s like Col. Sanders stressing the importance of the security concerns of a chicken.


3 posted on 11/09/2013 6:21:47 AM PST by steelhead_trout (MYOB)
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To: Dave346

I never thought I’d say, “Way to go, France.” A “sucker’s deal” indeed. Very plain talk from a diplomat.


4 posted on 11/09/2013 6:22:44 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Gen.Blather
Somebody needs to man up. If it's France I'll take it.
5 posted on 11/09/2013 6:23:24 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

France is probably angling for the contacts to build the reactors.


6 posted on 11/09/2013 6:28:03 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Senator Cruz basically made the Democrats fight for a whole bunch of things that they already had.")
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To: Dave346
The French socialists are standing up for Israel? The free world leader throws Israel to the wolves? This is not the world I grew up in.
7 posted on 11/09/2013 6:31:39 AM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Cruz/Palin 2016)
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To: Dave346

There may still be a deal:

EXCERPT: “Word that Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and a senior Chinese official from Beijing also were headed to the talks provided fresh hope for at least an interim deal, perhaps on Saturday.”

World powers, Iran seek nuclear deal despite Israeli opposition

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/09/world-powers-set-for-new-round-iran-nuke-talks/


8 posted on 11/09/2013 6:33:26 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Dave346

Kerry needs a success, hope this is not his legacy. Also, considering how Obama is handling the mess of the ACA rollout, this Iranian rollout can not turn out well!! It’s more then a systemic problem.


9 posted on 11/09/2013 6:34:04 AM PST by SIRTRIS
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To: Dave346

How far our country has fallen. France is defending our allies.


10 posted on 11/09/2013 6:35:47 AM PST by italianquaker
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To: Gen.Blather

France to Obama....... you spy, you die

Reference: NSA listening in in France


11 posted on 11/09/2013 6:37:58 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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To: Dave346

Not sure if this ‘deal’ means anything since Obama let the horse out of the barn months ago...


12 posted on 11/09/2013 6:40:08 AM PST by NCjim (Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
France is probably angling for the contacts to REbuild the reactors.

I think this is what you really meant

13 posted on 11/09/2013 6:48:04 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Dave346

Israel accuses US of deceit on nuclear deal with Iran. Geneva signing drags out as Iran ups its price

http://www.debka.com/article/23430/Israel-accuses-US-of-deceit-on-nuclear-deal-with-Iran-Geneva-signing-drags-out-as-Iran-ups-its-price-

Regardless of how you might or might not doubt Debka as a source, I would recommend reading this in its entirety — has some interesting insights and more details about Obama’s deception tactics — telling Israel one thing and doing another.

EXCERPT: “From those conversations, Netanyahu learned to his dismay that the version of the accord he had received from Kerry in the first of their three conversations differed substantially from the outline prepared for signing in Geneva – especially in the key clause of sanctions relief.

While Obama and Kerry have admitted only to lifting “a few minor reversible sanctions” and “modest’ sanctions relief as part of the deal, Israel discovered a far more generous package of concessions was on offer. The Europeans would lead the way in easing sanctions to allow Washington to show clean hands – especially to Congress.

By Friday, the Iranians understood that the Obama administration was so hell-bent on signing the first ever international accord on their nuclear program, that they could afford without much risk to up the price for their signature and extort more last-minute concessions.”


14 posted on 11/09/2013 6:51:23 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
France is probably angling for the contacts to REbuild the reactors. I think this is what you really meant
15 posted on 11/09/2013 6:54:44 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

France? What has happened? Are they the new leaders of the Free World? Thank you Obama! What are you going to do? Drone Strikes on Paris?


16 posted on 11/09/2013 7:01:29 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Dave346

Three more years of this nonsense. Will the voters push back or will they be too sick too care due to the Iatrogenic nature of Obamacare?


17 posted on 11/09/2013 7:06:34 AM PST by CMB_polarization
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The shame one has to feel when the U.S. is being exceeded in rational diplomacy by the French is truly traumatic.


18 posted on 11/09/2013 7:07:46 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
France? What has happened?

France has woken up to the problem that is Islam, along with a few other countries in Europe. Our problem, is that we have a muslim in the White House.

19 posted on 11/09/2013 7:09:12 AM PST by voicereason (The RNC is the "One-night stand" you wish you could forget.)
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To: Dave346

20 posted on 11/09/2013 7:19:01 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Dave346
Anything you want, just say the word, and you've got it.
21 posted on 11/09/2013 7:29:13 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Dave346
France will hold the line until their Muslim population burns a few cars at which time they will fold quicker than John Boehner on ANY negotiation with Obamalamadingdong.
22 posted on 11/09/2013 7:44:02 AM PST by cashless (Obama told us he would side with Muslims if the political winds shifted in an ugly direction. Ready?)
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To: Dave346

No one has anything to force France to sell out Israel and France seems to see the bigger picture.


23 posted on 11/09/2013 7:45:44 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dave346

Viva La France!


24 posted on 11/09/2013 7:47:56 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Wow also. Remember France is where all these Muzzies run to when the pressure is on in their country back home. That Ayatollah Komennie who came back from France to take over Iran after the revolution. He hunkered down in France all those years after the Shaw got over thrown.


25 posted on 11/09/2013 7:57:52 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: Dave346

France!!!! they understand the Persian mindset and plan. Halleluiah!!

The U.S. -(Kerry/Obama) dupes for fancy words.

If they were women they would bedded by every sweet talking guy.


26 posted on 11/09/2013 8:13:35 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Dave346

All for show. Obama is doing back door deals with Iran the terrorist state.

and the American media is silent.


27 posted on 11/09/2013 8:35:25 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: Gen.Blather
France?!?!?

As in Judges 7, once more God would show how only 300 men French cheese-eating surrender monkeys can deliver the Iranianites", lest the two-faced, traitorous horse-face be said (by the MSM) to have delivered them by his own hand.

HF

28 posted on 11/09/2013 9:34:56 AM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: Dave346
noting that France could not accept a "sucker's deal".

unlike our vainglorious buffoon. P T Barnum sure had Kerry's number.

29 posted on 11/09/2013 10:30:00 AM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: Dave346

Viva la France?


30 posted on 11/09/2013 10:39:01 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Gen.Blather

Gotta give the Frogz a little credit. Remember it was just a few weeks ago that they sent an armed force into Mali to shut down a bunch of Muzzie Hoodlums. That, along with their internal problems with immigrant Muzzies has them using up their sense of humor for putting up with general Muzzie krap. And France ain’t that far away from Asia Minor such that a radiation cloud anywhere in the ‘hood would affect France directly. -—Wouldn’t be surprising at all if France was willing to help Ben shut down the Mullah’s nuke hobby shop.


31 posted on 11/09/2013 11:26:01 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: cherokee1

“Wouldn’t be surprising at all if France was willing to help Ben shut down the Mullah’s nuke hobby shop.”

I’d be shocked. They’d have universal riots in France. Hundreds would die. Also, they don’t have the logistics and nobody can loan them the tankers they’d need to fly any distance; as Obama won’t. Also, they’d have to pass by plenty of Obama controlled space coming and going.

Nope, we’re going to have to rely on Saudi Arabia’s self interest here. I don’t know if they’re up for it and the attempt may cause their (I think) fragile regime to collapse under its own weight.

Oh, let’s not forget the wildcard sitting on the boarder; Turkey.


32 posted on 11/09/2013 11:38:25 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Dave346

I guess Lurch and his Dear Leader can accept a sucker deal.


33 posted on 11/09/2013 1:41:05 PM PST by Flint
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To: cherokee1
"And France ain’t that far away from Asia Minor such that a radiation cloud anywhere in the ‘hood would affect France directly."

Turkey (long ago called Asia Minor or Anatolia) is a fair piece downwind from France. There are three governments south of France that see things more the Iranian way, though.


34 posted on 11/09/2013 2:15:57 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Dave346
The French are kinda different. Hard tellin' what they'll do.

Sarkozy talks of bombing if Iran gets nuclear arms http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887521/posts

Nicolas Sarkozy Warns Of Iran’s Nuclear Crisis (Nuclear Iran Unacceptable)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1887491/posts

France’s Sarkozy raises prospect of Iran airstrikes
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3442638,00.html

This French jet is flying around with an untested nuke
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2728907/posts

On not dealing with danger
Townhall ^ | Jan. 26, 2006 | Larry Elder
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1565246/posts
After all, goes the line, we got Iraq wrong, how do we know the truth about Iran? Even French President Jacques Chirac now seems to get it. He recently warned, "Leaders of any state that uses terrorist means against us, as well as any that may be envisaging, in one way or another, using weapons of mass destruction, must understand that they would be exposing themselves to a firm and appropriate response on our behalf," said Chirac. "That response could be conventional, it could also be of another nature," clearly referring to France's nuclear weapons.


35 posted on 11/09/2013 3:21:52 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Dave346

One thing’s for sure. The political classes of the nations (including our own for a long time) are not honest or loyal with Israel as an ally or honest with themselves about the intentions of Iran and its allies. They continue getting big cash flow from global trade and big government for putting off war with foreign enemies. Because of that dishonesty, world nuclear war becomes ever more likely in time. Look at the mess that the aging counter-culture kids running every political faction have made.


36 posted on 11/09/2013 3:32:14 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Dave346

Iran talks have concluded without a deal to be resumed at a later date!

Ball is back in Netanyahu’s court - what will he do now?


37 posted on 11/09/2013 3:46:11 PM PST by Dave346
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To: Dave346

The next round of talks will be in 7-10 days.

Assuming of course Netanyahu hasn’t launched war by then.....


38 posted on 11/09/2013 3:50:22 PM PST by Dave346
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To: EQAndyBuzz

France sees Iran dominating Syria and Syria dominating Lebanon. France supports the Lebanese Maronite Christian minority that is being dominated by Syria and the Iranian backed Hezollah.

Both countries were French colonial territories from 1920-1943.


39 posted on 11/09/2013 4:35:55 PM PST by Nextrush (BALANCED BUDGET NOW AND PRESIDENT SARAH PALIN)
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To: Diogenesis

You know, I’d feel a whole lot better is we had a few
tough used car sales men and a finance manager doing
our talking...

A communist neighborhood organizer and a hero wannabe,
oh, I am so depressed just thinking about it.


40 posted on 11/09/2013 4:45:23 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cashless

France is waking up. We are not.


41 posted on 11/09/2013 5:28:04 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Gen.Blather

The house of Saud is buying nukes from Pakistan. The expect us to support Iran


42 posted on 11/09/2013 5:30:26 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
I agree. France has seen Muslims burn thousands of vehicles, riot, and fail to contribute to French society.

They do not side with them like Obama does.

43 posted on 11/09/2013 6:23:12 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: redgolum

“The house of Saud is buying nukes from Pakistan. The expect us to support Iran”

It’s about 50 years way past the time when USA politicians need to support ONLY the USA first, and forget the Middle East and China. Sorry if that offends the few that might believe that USA interests should be other than first.


44 posted on 11/09/2013 6:25:47 PM PST by apoliticalone
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To: apoliticalone
Let's think about America's national interest.
Does America have any national interest in allowing Iran, a country who's religious leadership promised to destroy America, and whose parliament was chanting "Death to America" last week, to get nuclear weapons? Do we have a national interest in the Saudi response to Iran of getting their own nukes? Of course, not. An Iranian nuke directly or indictly means nuked American cities.
45 posted on 11/09/2013 11:59:30 PM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Dave346

Socialist France saves the world from the perfidious surrender of Obama. Arugula-eating surrender monkey.


46 posted on 11/10/2013 12:00:28 AM PST by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: Dave346
Well, well, well. How the West has fallen, when France displays testes!

To quote:
French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said on France Inter radio, noting that France could not accept a “sucker's deal”.

This is amazing. The French are showing more backbone and moral considerations than the Obama administration.

This means that the POTUS is ready for a “sucker's deal” and is eager to let Iran develop nuclear weapons while France is not.
All of the “deals” reached by this administration have been “sucker deals” and who knows this better than Vlad Putin as he watches the US exit the world stage.

Dark Ages ahead folks. Thank you Mr. President for putting our heads into a noose.

47 posted on 11/10/2013 1:53:07 AM PST by Netz
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To: Dave346
A quick deal will be signed by Obama, he'll sign any document as quickly as possible in order to silence Israel.

Israel now feels like Czechoslovakia, 1938. Thanks Neville Chamobama. Back stabbing is how you survive.

48 posted on 11/10/2013 1:58:36 AM PST by Netz
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To: apoliticalone

Sounds great, on paper.

Of course that will crash the economy, create a power vacuum that will be filled by someone who more than likely doesn’t like us, and push gas prices higher than ever before.

Lots of pain when you drop playing empire. Not to mention the scramble would probably lead to a world war, again.

Kind of like the various bubbles in the economy. It will pop, the question is if you try to do it in a controlled manner, or just let it blow up.


49 posted on 11/10/2013 4:37:53 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: rmlew

What should worry us most in America is not a missile from a foreign state, but a nuke in a suitcase used either as a false flag by a foreign government to gain political and PR advantage, or from a state sponsored terrorist group.. All nations have grown too devious which is why we need to spy on friends and enemies.....but not on Americans.


50 posted on 11/10/2013 6:23:15 AM PST by apoliticalone
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