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German Homeschoolers Forced to Send Kids to Public School, Now Blocked From Leaving the Country
Christian Post ^ | 11/08/2013 | Napp Nazworth

Posted on 11/09/2013 11:46:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Homeschoolers whose children were recently seized by the German government are now not allowed to emigrate to a country that allows homeschooling.

In August, the children of Dirk and Petra Wunderlich were seized at gunpoint by German officials because the Wunderlich's refused to send their children to the public school. In mid-September, the Wunderlichs were reunited with their children, but only after they promised to send their kids to public school.

The Wunderlichs then requested that they be allowed to leave the country so that they could go to a country that will allow them to homeschool. A judge told them that if they left before a December hearing on their case, they would be brought back to Germany and face criminal sanctions. Left with no other option, the Wunderlich children began attending public school on Oct. 28.

"What other choice did we have?" Dirk Wunderlich told the Home School Legal Defense Association. "They had our children. We feel ravaged by the government. We don't want our children in school but we have no choice - we can't leave and if we don't comply they will take our children away. We will make the best of it because we know if we tried to leave, the authorities would separate us and we might never see our children again or for a very long time."

The children appear to taking their new schooling in stride. But, one child complained that their teacher spends too much time explaining things and telling the other students to be quiet. Another Wunderlich kid regretted that he no longer had time to work on his personal learning projects.

Wunderlich said he hopes to be able to leave the country after next month's court hearing, or maybe earlier if an emergency request comes through,

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: education; frhf; germany; homeschool; homeschooling; hslda; wunderlich

1 posted on 11/09/2013 11:46:09 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Obviously the Nazis are back in power.


2 posted on 11/09/2013 11:48:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance (tomhoefling@gmail.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

They still cling to those NAZI roots


3 posted on 11/09/2013 11:50:58 AM PST by GeronL
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To: SeekAndFind

The Nazis return


4 posted on 11/09/2013 11:52:00 AM PST by Viennacon
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To: SeekAndFind

Perhaps they should change religious affiliation to muslim then they would have german supporters in the legal and political communities.


5 posted on 11/09/2013 11:53:30 AM PST by RginTN
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To: SeekAndFind
The state uber alles. How very German Hitlerian.
6 posted on 11/09/2013 11:54:16 AM PST by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Heil!


7 posted on 11/09/2013 11:55:22 AM PST by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The Wunderlichs then requested that they be allowed to leave the country so that they could go to a country that will allow them to homeschool.

A definite mistake. Hindsight? Sure.

But these people had a very good idea of who they were dealing with. The Geheime Staatspolizei. They should have simply made all the necessary arrangements and just left.arrangements

8 posted on 11/09/2013 11:58:18 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Destroy patriotism & government will fall. Tamper with love of country & you'll have revolution)
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To: Shimmer1

ping


9 posted on 11/09/2013 12:02:45 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: GeronL

They do. Even after all the history, the evil, etc.... The Germans still can’t move past it. I find it odd that the German people, no matter how many generations, have that same mentality. They are an interesting people...to put it nicely.


10 posted on 11/09/2013 12:05:59 PM PST by yellowdoghunter (Welcome to Obamastan!)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't really understand the outrage. Most Americans tolerate a system that, for all intent and purposes, forces the children of god-fearing parents into godless government schools.

But I guess we can flee the country.

11 posted on 11/09/2013 12:07:52 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

For now.


12 posted on 11/09/2013 12:09:13 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, if anything, those children will test out at least two grades higher than their peers and will be much more self confident.


13 posted on 11/09/2013 12:11:02 PM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: RginTN

That’s what I was wondering....what about the Muzzies, I bet they get to school their children however they damn well please.


14 posted on 11/09/2013 12:13:21 PM PST by hulagirl (Mother Theresa was right)
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To: EternalVigilance

Can education (concentration) camps be far behind?


15 posted on 11/09/2013 12:13:24 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Volunteerism is a concept unfamiliar to Germans.


16 posted on 11/09/2013 12:17:07 PM PST by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: yellowdoghunter

“The Germans are an amazing people, if you don’t count world wars.”

- Wm. F. Buckley Jr.

“We’re back, and this time no more Mister Nice Guy.”

- A. Hitler


17 posted on 11/09/2013 12:19:55 PM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/german-homeschool-family-denied-asylum-in-the-u.s.-appeals-to-supreme-court


18 posted on 11/09/2013 12:20:29 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: Viennacon

Leftists are the same by whatever name they go by...


19 posted on 11/09/2013 12:21:18 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: RobbyS
"Volunteerism is a concept unfamiliar to Germans."

Nonsense.


20 posted on 11/09/2013 12:21:49 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: lonestar

The 2016 D’rat nominee will be HEILry screeching “F’n Jew Bastards”


21 posted on 11/09/2013 12:24:12 PM PST by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: GeronL

Well you know old habits are hard to break =)


22 posted on 11/09/2013 12:25:13 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.hslda.org/legal/cases/romeike.asp


23 posted on 11/09/2013 12:36:01 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Romeike’s have 2 children that were born in the US making them US citizens. The obama / holder Dept. of Injustice is hellbent on crushing this God fearing, Christian family.


24 posted on 11/09/2013 12:39:57 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SeekAndFind
Climb every mountain...

... to Switzerland

25 posted on 11/09/2013 12:42:58 PM PST by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: Eagles6; ntnychik; potlatch; onyx

The Romeike’s have 2 children that were born in the US making them US citizens.
The obama / holder Dept. of Injustice is hellbent on crushing this God fearing, Christian family.

26 posted on 11/09/2013 12:50:38 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: SeekAndFind

So you have to request permission to leave that country? Or just them?


27 posted on 11/09/2013 12:53:51 PM PST by Nea Wood (When life gets too hard to stand, kneel.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

A good post. One problem, though. The Low Information Voter in the USA most likely doesn’t know what the Geheime Staatspolizei was. I’ll inform them.
IT is better known by its initials-—GESTAPO. It was very big in Germany a number of years ago.
Many countries have similar organizations, known by different initials.


28 posted on 11/09/2013 12:54:15 PM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: EternalVigilance

It will happen here next, you hide and watch!


29 posted on 11/09/2013 12:56:44 PM PST by Shimmer1 (The NSA: The only part of government that actually listens)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just bet they wouldn’t stop the Muslims from homeschooling.


30 posted on 11/09/2013 1:07:21 PM PST by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Germany, land of virtual pedophiliac “under age” sex, but no home schooling...


31 posted on 11/09/2013 1:07:40 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: newfreep

well the logic is to reduce US standards so that Germany and Europe do not look like human right violators.

“Power to the people, everyone does it”


32 posted on 11/09/2013 1:09:49 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: PhilDragoo

Good one. Image saved.


33 posted on 11/09/2013 1:17:33 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SeekAndFind
HSLDA is also helping the Romeikes, another German homeschooling family that emigrated to the United States to avoid the persecution that the Wunderlichs are experiencing. The U.S. Justice Department, though, has been trying to deport the Romeikes back to Germany.

The right to determine the education of one's children is not a fundamental right and, therefore, the Romeikes should not be granted political asylum, the Justice Department argued.

I was wondering about this family. This is shameful that Obama allows and wants to give amnesty to people who come over here illegally but won't help this family. Families like this are what America is all about. This family will face the same fate as the family in this article if they go home.

34 posted on 11/09/2013 1:30:52 PM PST by Pinkbell
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To: SeekAndFind

Nazi’s set precedences while they controlled the country, and those precedences remain active in Germany.

This is what the Leftists leading the Obama government are counting on. They are counting on the precedences they set in our country to remain in place, or at least the major precedences.

Three steps forward, one step back is the old saying.


35 posted on 11/09/2013 1:37:45 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Nazis a.k.a. Leftists.


36 posted on 11/09/2013 1:37:59 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind; metmom; wintertime; little jeremiah; ExTexasRedhead; justiceseeker93; ...

About 75 years ago, the German government did the same thing to homeschooling parents after being taken over by a radical party led by this Austrian-born chancellor. What was his name again?/sarcasm


37 posted on 11/09/2013 1:43:20 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (The War on Drugs is Big Government statism)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

In most states, home schooling is a legal option open to most parents. There are also lots of private school options that give parents control over their children’s education. Fleeing the country is not even necessary here at this point.


38 posted on 11/09/2013 2:07:19 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

I understand. But homeschooling is practically impossible for most people, leaving them few realistic options outside the government schools.


39 posted on 11/09/2013 2:16:38 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: GeronL

I’d like to know why they haven’t changed the law?
Wonder what other Nazi era laws are still in effect.


40 posted on 11/09/2013 2:38:43 PM PST by porter_knorr
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
But homeschooling is practically impossible for most people, leaving them few realistic options outside the government schools.

It is easier than many people think, particularly for younger children. Even if you only homeschool for a few years your children will benefit. And if you can't homeschool full time, at least supplement what your children learn at school with additional teaching at home.

Also, there are many support groups to help families get started.

41 posted on 11/09/2013 4:46:02 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

True, but it’s difficult financially. And both spouses must agree. Government school is the default position.


42 posted on 11/09/2013 10:19:14 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Clintonfatigued; fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy

43 posted on 11/10/2013 11:18:02 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: SeekAndFind; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; AccountantMom; adopt4Christ; ...

HOMESCHOOL PING

This ping list is for articles of interest to homeschoolers. I hold both the Homeschool Ping List and the Another Reason to Homeschool Ping List. Please freepmail me to let me know if you would like to be added or removed from either list, or both.

The keyword for the FREE REPUBLIC HOMESCHOOLERS’ FORUM is frhf.

44 posted on 11/11/2013 8:04:35 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of faith....)
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To: SeekAndFind

How can they be dis-allowed from emigrating to another country when they don’t have border stops in the EU anymore requiring you to show a passport?

I did just a wee bit of research and found out that Austria (right next door to Germany for those of you in Rio Linda) allows homeschooling as long as the home education standards are on par or better than the government indoctrination standards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homeschooling_international_status_and_statistics

What is to prevent them from taking a drive to Austria? Maybe they can do it after their court case in December.

Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Normay et al allow it without much regulation, too.

Maybe some Christians can get together and smuggle them out.


45 posted on 11/11/2013 8:17:36 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: unlearner; St_Thomas_Aquinas
In most states, home schooling is a legal option open to most parents. There are also lots of private school options that give parents control over their children’s education.

Let's call those "options" what they **really** are: Ransom! or Jizya!

Parents who can not afford the ransom ( homeschool expenses or private school tuition) are under POLICE THREAT to send their children into the government Marxist run indoctrination camps. If you don't believe me do a Google search on the words, "Police and truant".

Also, our nation's Marxist run indoctrination camps are like Obamacare's , "You can keep your insurance plan and your doctor." Government K-12 indoctrination camps are a price-fixed monopoly cartel that gives a service away for tuition-free. Due to the cartel and price-fixed practices of the K-12 Marxist indoctrination camps few private schools can compete. In many counties ( my is one) there are NO private schools. None!

Finally, no citizen should be under police threat to subsidize MARXIST driven godless socialism that is the very foundation upon which government K-12 indoctrination camp "schooling" is built! The entire EVIL system is a First Amendment and freedom of conscience ABOMINATION!

46 posted on 11/11/2013 8:43:55 AM PST by wintertime
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To: unlearner; St_Thomas_Aquinas

I checked you posting history to see if you might be a paid government school defending troll, but you don’t seem to be. Your posts are solidly conservative.

Honestly, I am exasperated.

Education is our nation’s MOST serious threat! Nearly every K-12 teacher in this nation was trained by godless Marxists in Marxist run colleges and universities. This is true for both private and government schooling. Even if a teacher is conservative in their worldview this Marxist training will have its influence. Then when K-12 is done the indoctrination continues on to the highest levels of university graduate school!

Your post is merely one example among thousands upon thousands of the lack of understanding among conservatives about the threat education will pose to our nation ( by way of the voting booth) in just a few short years.


47 posted on 11/11/2013 8:53:00 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Mathews

Well, if anything, those children will test out at least two grades higher than their peers and will be much more self confident.

***

Right.

And, unless they’re placed at grade levels well beyond their ages, they will spend all day, every day bored out of their minds.

Poor things.


48 posted on 11/11/2013 8:57:12 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (Never Forget the Seals of Extortion 17 - and God Bless Americad)
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To: pax_et_bonum

Yep.


49 posted on 11/11/2013 12:32:57 PM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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