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Putin, Netanyahu to meet in Moscow this month [11/20/13]
Times of Israel ^ | November 5, 2013 | staff

Posted on 11/09/2013 8:55:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on November 20 during a brief visit to Russia, the Kremlin announced Tuesday.

In September, Russia raised a brief alarm in the Middle East after apparently detecting a joint Israel and US missile launch test in the Mediterranean.

Israel’s Defense Ministry confirmed that it carried out a successful trial involving a new type of Sparrow target missile, which was meant to test Israel’s missile tracking capabilities.

Russia had reported that two ballistic objects had been fired from the central Mediterranean to the eastern coast of the sea at 10:16 a.m. Moscow time, which is an hour ahead of Israel.

Netanyahu and Putin last met for emergency talks at the Black Sea resort of Sochi in mid-May to discuss the situation in Syria, amid concerns that Moscow could soon provide Damascus with a cutting-edge missile defense system.

At the time, Moscow’s overriding message to Netanyahu was one of restraint, urging political, rather than military, means of resolving the almost-three-year conflict. While Putin and Netanyahu acknowledged that the ongoing violence in Syria is detrimental to the entire region, the Russian president said that the only way to resolve the crisis was “the soonest end to armed conflict and the beginning of political settlement,” Russia’s Interfax news agency reported.

Netanyahu, however, said that the volatile situation in the Middle East requires action to improve security.

Russia has continued to ship weapons to Syria, despite the civil war there, but it has, so far, refrained from providing Damascus with the S-300s, a powerful weapon that has a range of up to 200 kilometers (125 miles), can intercept fighter jets and cruise missiles, and the capability to track down and strike multiple targets simultaneously with lethal efficiency.

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TOPICS: Israel; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iran; israel; israelsettlements; netanyahu; netanyahuputin; russia; russiatrip; waronterror
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (right) and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Jerusalem on June 25, 2012 (photo credit: Marc Israel Sellem/Pool/Flash90)

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu (right) and Russian President Vladimir Putin in Jerusalem on June 25, 2012 (photo credit: Marc Israel Sellem/Pool/Flash90)

1 posted on 11/09/2013 8:55:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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Thanks thouworm.


2 posted on 11/09/2013 8:55:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Man, that American sure is a punk, da?”
“Oy! You’re telling me nothing!”


3 posted on 11/09/2013 9:08:59 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: SunkenCiv
In a thumb your nose at Barack, the Kenyan-Muslim-Marxist usurper in the White Hut, what if Bibi Netanyahu and Vladimir Putin agree on a joint strike on Iran to destroy the country's nuclear sites?

Imagine Russian and Israeli strikes on the Iranian mullahs and their nuclear sites. Barry would get is dander up over this. He might have John Kerry deliver a personal note of disapproval to Bibi and UN Ambassador Rice might lead a joint condemnation of Russia and Israel. Boo hoo, boo hoo.

4 posted on 11/09/2013 9:16:18 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: SunkenCiv

Israel needs to develop closer ties with Russia, India and China. What choice does Bibi have with terrorists in control of the White House?


5 posted on 11/09/2013 9:17:06 PM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: tumblindice

and from the FRchives:
6 posted on 11/09/2013 9:23:55 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Two serious men in that photo, one a commando, one a former KGB officer. And at the same time, ours was a bath house homo in Chicago, smoking pot, studying communism and community organizing.


7 posted on 11/09/2013 9:25:40 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: MasterGunner01

Their main topics of discussion will be, in order, Pooty’s supplying of missiles to Syria; and the Israeli-Cypriote natural gas / petroleum development and the route of that pipeline to the EU.


8 posted on 11/09/2013 9:26:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I bet neither of those guys is begging for space until after the election, promising to please them later.


9 posted on 11/09/2013 9:26:49 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: montag813
[Netanyahu reaffirms Israel claim to parts of West Bank | 164 posted on 01/25/2010 7:28:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv]
10 posted on 11/09/2013 9:27:18 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: DesertRhino

Netanyahu fought in war in service to his nation. Putin never fought in any war, he loyally served the communist secret police which oppressed and brutalized his own people.


11 posted on 11/09/2013 9:34:05 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: SunkenCiv

One thing also to keep in mind is the many Russian emigres who have moved to Israel...They tend to be much more to the right, and in general, they do admire Putin. And their role in Israeli politics is growing by the day.


12 posted on 11/09/2013 9:34:19 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: DesertRhino

Yes, but don’t forget, Zero self-described as being very good at killing people.

Israeli PM: Iranian nukes will spread to Turkey, Egypt [02/16/2010]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2452558/posts

Netanyahu Speech: “Biggest Threat To All Humanity Is Meeting Of Radical Islam And Nuclear Weapons” [2009]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2271702/posts

Full text of Binyamin Netanyahu’s Bar Ilan speech
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2271719/posts


13 posted on 11/09/2013 9:34:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

I went with ‘punk’ because I don’t know the Hebrew for ‘douchebag’.


14 posted on 11/09/2013 9:35:12 PM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

well said.


15 posted on 11/09/2013 9:35:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: DesertRhino

I was thinking much the same. That is a very good photo.

Two smart men, both have my respect. I don’t delude myself about Putin, but I do respect him. Obama? ... Not so much. :-(


16 posted on 11/09/2013 9:36:21 PM PST by Bobalu (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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To: SunkenCiv

VERY interesting.


17 posted on 11/09/2013 9:37:07 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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Turkey ‘stopped helping’ al-Qaeda near Syria border
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3088946/posts


18 posted on 11/09/2013 9:37:12 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

He knows he cannot depend on 0.


19 posted on 11/09/2013 9:39:42 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: SunkenCiv

This is the essence of Realpolitik, strong men discussing politics or diplomacy based primarily on power and on
practical and material factors and considerations, rather than ideological notions.


20 posted on 11/09/2013 10:12:52 PM PST by oldbrowser (The debt limit is the emergency brake on government spending)
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To: MasterGunner01
In a thumb your nose at Barack, the Kenyan-Muslim-Marxist usurper in the White Hut, what if Bibi Netanyahu and Vladimir Putin agree on a joint strike on Iran to destroy the country's nuclear sites?

I don't think there is a non-nuclear munition that can do the job. Iranians built their nuclear plants under tall mountains. One could strike some exits, but not all of them - and they would be cleared soon. There would be no damage to the plant itself. Besides, nobody knows where the manufactured nuclear materials for the bomb are at any given time. Probably they are not at the plant anymore. One could assemble the bomb in a shed, or in a cave, or on a ship, or in an apartment in some city. If Iranians are serious, all the non-nuclear components are ready, and assembled, and tested. Perhaps it's only a matter of inserting the nuclear core, running diagnostics, and closing the lid.

Israel's best bet at this time is to negotiate. Putin is not particularly interested in Iran getting the bomb. But what can be done, outside of a sudden regime change in Iran, to stop that? Any military action will only prompt Mullahs to use what they have made by this time. Just one bomb will destroy one city, but it will also contaminate most of Israel. It's a small country.

21 posted on 11/09/2013 10:16:50 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Greysard

The way to take down the Iranian threat is an EMP strike or strikes on the Iranians. If nothing electrical in Iran works, they are rendered deaf, dumb, and blind in seconds. No electronic media, communications, no pumps to move oil or water, no ground transport besides animals — a nightmare for Iran. Iran would descend into chaos.

EMP does not have to have a nuclear event to trigger the pulse, it can be done with conventional explosives. From Wikipedia on EMP:

“Non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NNEMP)

Non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NNEMP) is a weapon-generated electromagnetic pulse without use of nuclear technology. Devices that can achieve this objective include a large low-inductance capacitor bank discharged into a single-loop antenna, a microwave generator and an explosively pumped flux compression generator.

To achieve the frequency characteristics of the pulse needed for optimal coupling into the target, wave-shaping circuits and/or microwave generators are added between the pulse source and the antenna. Vircators are vacuum tubes that are particularly suitable for microwave conversion of high-energy pulses.

NNEMP generators can be carried as a payload of bombs, cruise missiles (such as the CHAMP missile) and drones, with diminished mechanical, thermal and ionizing radiation effects, but without the political consequences of deploying nuclear weapons.

The range of NNEMP weapons (non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse bombs) is much less than nuclear EMP. Nearly all NNEMP devices used as weapons require chemical explosives as their initial energy source, producing only one millionth the energy of nuclear explosives of similar weight.

The electromagnetic pulse from NNEMP weapons must come from within the weapon, while nuclear weapons generate EMP as a secondary effect. These facts limit the range of NNEMP weapons, but allow finer target discrimination.

The effect of small e-bombs has proven to be sufficient for certain terrorist or military operations. Examples of such operations include the destruction of electronic control systems critical to the operation of many ground vehicles and aircraft.”


22 posted on 11/09/2013 10:43:07 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: SunkenCiv

Hope they come to terms. bho is irrelevant.


23 posted on 11/10/2013 1:53:43 AM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Their main topics of discussion will be, in order, Pooty’s supplying of missiles to Syria; and the Israeli-Cypriote natural gas / petroleum development and the route of that pipeline to the EU.”

Your analysis is spot on. When Israel’s Leviathon natural gas field comes on line, it will shake up Middle East alignments. For those who don’t know, Noble Energy out of Texas will play a major role in developing the site. Russia would like a piece of the action in order to protect its interests. Incidentally, Cyprus is sitting on 38.9 trillion cubic feet of natural gas that would make the Cyprus the wealthiest country in the EU. Interesting times are ahead.


24 posted on 11/10/2013 5:02:23 AM PST by sergeantdave
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25 posted on 11/10/2013 10:30:46 AM PST by SJackson (if you want to test a man’s character, give him power A Lincoln)
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To: sergeantdave; Eagles6

This Natural Gas Find Could Completely Change the World As We Know It (Israel-Cyprus)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3087119/posts

This seems to be having an impact on Turkish behavior:

Turkey’s Zorlu Energy ‘in talks on Israeli gas’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3086308/posts

OTOH:

Turkish military ‘trying to provoke an incident’ with Israelis in Mediterranean
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3085815/posts

Turkey revealed Israeli spy ring to Iran-report
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3080136/posts


26 posted on 11/10/2013 3:52:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Greysard; MasterGunner01

The Russians are counting on keeping the various nationalities and sectarian groups pointing their weapons (so far, conventional only) at each other instead of at Russia, which isn’t that far off what the US does, or for that matter, what China does when necessary. India’s emergence as a great power and Pakistan’s steady disintegration means that what happens in Iran in particular has more importance to both Russia and China, and also in India.

And what happens in Pakistan is of great concern in Iran, which is a patchwork of different ethnic groups, just as Pakistan and most of Middle East and moslem world is and has been for some time now. Reconsolidation of Afghanistan and Pakistan into as many as a dozen new states will probably be a done deal in less than a generation.

The metal ores in Africa (whatever petroleum is there is largely already in development) are the current big play, and Russia has been out of play in Africa for some years; China’s in Sudan and here and there trying to get a toe in elsewhere, mostly in the rest of the Horn; the big player is Iran, and this is a great danger to us.


27 posted on 11/10/2013 4:04:22 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv
I could not agree with you more. However, the Kenyan-Muslim-Marxist in the White House thinks the United States is the enemy and not nuclear armed mullahs. Good heavens, the inmates are running the insane asylum — and their aren't any adults in-charge. This is like giving teenagers the car keys, a 120 mph muscle car, and a quart of booze. What bad things could possibly happen.
28 posted on 11/11/2013 1:31:22 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: MasterGunner01

Zero doesn’t work for us.


29 posted on 11/11/2013 6:53:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv
“Zero doesn’t work for us.”

Exactly correct. Whoever is pulling Barry's strings — Valerie Jarrett or George Soros or whoever — they want to destroy the United States and its people.

30 posted on 11/11/2013 7:13:47 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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