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Iraq takes first delivery of Russian helicopters in $4.3 billion deal
UPI ^ | Nov. 8, 2013 | UPI

Posted on 11/10/2013 2:58:28 AM PST by klpt

Iraq has taken possession of four Russian-made Mi-35 helicopter gunships, officials say.

It's the first delivery of military equipment in a multi-billion-dollar weapons deal between the two countries, RIA Novosti reported Friday.

Iraq expects to receive about 40 Mi-35 and Mi-28NE attack helicopters by the end of the year, said Abbas al-Bayati, a lawmaker with President Nouri al-Maliki's ruling party.

The $4.3 billion agreement also calls for Russia to provide 48 Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile gun systems. Russia also will supply Ka-52 single-seat attack helicopters.

Iraq had threatened to cancel the contract earlier this year because of suspicions of corruption.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: iraq; russia

1 posted on 11/10/2013 2:58:28 AM PST by klpt
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To: klpt

There appears to be one universal problem with Russia’s otherwise excellent equipment. Lack of spare parts. The Russians are typically late on delivery and their equipment spends a lot of time inoperable as a result.

I have frequently been involved in supplying spares to American made equipment. I think the way it gets bought is probably superior. FMS money is funneled through the military here. So, if it’s Army equipment our Army handles the contract. I don’t know how the Russians do it, but according to what I’ve read it doesn’t work well. Procurement in the States, though, appears to work very well.


2 posted on 11/10/2013 3:10:07 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: klpt

Ka-52 single-seat attack helicopter

If the Iraqi govt can keep these operational - they are going to lay waste to the Sunni’s...and then turn on the Kurds...


3 posted on 11/10/2013 3:14:33 AM PST by BCW (Salva reipublicae)
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To: klpt

How nice of Iraq to buy from Russia instead of us after we liberate them.


4 posted on 11/10/2013 3:24:49 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: shelterguy
Gog, Magog, Israel and Russia
5 posted on 11/10/2013 3:44:53 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Gen.Blather

>>>There appears to be one universal problem with Russia’s otherwise excellent equipment. Lack of spare parts. The Russians are typically late on delivery and their equipment spends a lot of time inoperable as a result.<<<
Popular Russian weapons are practically open-source. In case of Mi-35 you can buy parts and entire tuning packages from many companies in many countries.

Buying American is often problematic for nations with unstable governments. Not only a price is higher, maintenance depends on relations in Washington, DC too. If you are declared unfriendly by US government all your shiny toys are scrap metal.


6 posted on 11/10/2013 3:57:22 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: shelterguy

Sadly, most of their choppers, especially the transports, are stronger, tougher, cheaper and easier to maintain than ours. Their counterpart to our Blackhawks is half the price and something like 1/3rd the maintenance hours required to keep it flying.

Also, as mentioned Russki choppers have multiple sources for parts. Would *you* want to be at President Obama’s mercy for parts and support?


7 posted on 11/10/2013 4:13:26 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: shelterguy

> How nice of Iraq to buy from Russia instead of us after we liberate them.

Think that’s bad? Its probably OUR money rhey’re using to buy it...lol


8 posted on 11/10/2013 5:07:37 AM PST by jsanders2001
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"The $4.3 billion agreement also calls for Russia to provide 48 Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile gun systems.................."

Why do I have this gut feeling that the $4.3 billion will be covered by US aid to Iraq???

9 posted on 11/10/2013 5:41:05 AM PST by varon (Para bellum)
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Your gut is most likely lying.

Iraq is a rich nation. The amount of $4.3 billion is not a big deal. The Russians want/need jobs more than the Americans.


10 posted on 11/10/2013 5:45:17 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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Your gut is most likely lying.

Iraq is a rich nation

Well, I'll probably have a serious talk with my gut for pulling an Obama on me and withholding information that such a wealthy country as Iraq is the 4th largest dollar amount foreign aid recipient. Who would've known............

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11 posted on 11/10/2013 6:30:05 AM PST by varon (Para bellum)
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To: bert

I would imagine the Russians are more willing to send some rebates of the $4.3 billion back under the table. What seals the deal in Iraq would get your average American businessman a stretch in the slam, with the Russians its all good.


12 posted on 11/10/2013 6:47:09 AM PST by gusty
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Yep...... the foreign corrupt practices act loses a lot of business for us

We are naive to believe such a law accomplishes anything.


13 posted on 11/10/2013 8:23:35 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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