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72 Absurd Items ObamaCare Requires Your Health Insurance to Cover
Conservative HQ ^ | 11/08/13 | Ben Hart

Posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by xzins

There is nothing about ObamaCare that’s working. It took a pack of lies to sell ObamaCare – which passed in the Senate by a single vote.

But the ultimate problem that dooms ObamaCare is cost — the sticker shock of the monthly premiums people are experiencing right now who have been thrown into the ObamaCare exchanges. According to a 49-state study by the Manhattan Institute , ObamaCare is causing an average increase in premiums for individuals of 41 percent.

The primary reason this is happening is that the architects of ObamaCare confuse health insurance with health coverage.

The purpose of health insurance is to protect one from a financial catastrophe in the event of a serious accident or a catastrophic illness. If you want to keep your monthly premiums cheap, you accept a high deductible of $5,000.

That is, your insurance pays nothing unless your medical expenses exceed $5,000 in a year. Until you hit the $5,000 in expenses level, you pay your health care costs out of pocket.

You pay for your doctor visits, your check ups, your prescriptions, your flu shots, your colds and sniffles. You pay for your routine vision care and routine dental work — teeth cleanings, fillings, and the like.

I keep my car insurance premiums low with the exact same approach. I have a $2,000 deductible. More importantly, I don’t make insurance claims for fender benders. I pay for those of pocket.

But that’s not the ObamaCare product.

Instead, according to the list on HealthCare.gov, everyone’s health insurance plan must now include:

Contraception, including the abortion-inducing “morning after” pill and vasectomies;

Maternity and newborn care (even though I’ve a 55-year old male with kids out of the nest)

Mental health and substance abuse counseling and treatment

Prescription drugs

Pediatric services

Behavioral health treatment

Rehab treatment

Dental and vision care

Alcohol Misuse screening and counseling

Aspirin use to prevent cardiovascular disease for men and women of certain ages

Blood Pressure screening for all adults

Cholesterol screening for adults of certain ages or at higher risk

Colorectal Cancer screening for adults over 50

Depression screening for adults

Diabetes (Type 2) screening for adults with high blood pressure

Diet counseling for adults at higher risk for chronic disease

HIV screening for everyone ages 15 to 65, and other ages at increased risk

Immunization vaccines for adults–doses, recommended ages, and recommended populations vary: Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Herpes Zoster, Human Papillomavirus, Influenza (Flu Shot), Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningococcal, Pneumococcal, Tetanus, Diphtheria, Pertussi, Varicella

Obesity screening and counseling for all adults

Sexually Transmitted Infection (STI) prevention counseling for adults at higher risk

Syphilis screening for all adults at higher risk

Tobacco Use screening for all adults and cessation interventions for tobacco users

Anemia screening on a routine basis for pregnant women

Breast Cancer Genetic Test Counseling (BRCA)for women at higher risk for breast cancer

Breast Cancer Mammography screenings every 1 to 2 years for women over 40

Breast Cancer Chemoprevention counseling for women at higher risk

Breastfeeding comprehensive support and counseling from trained providers, and access to breastfeeding supplies, for pregnant and nursing women

Cervical Cancer screening for sexually active women

Chlamydia Infection screening for younger women and other women at higher risk

Contraception: Food and Drug Administration-approved contraceptive methods, sterilization procedures, and patient education and counseling, as prescribed by a health care provider for women with reproductive capacity.

Domestic and interpersonal violence screening and counseling for all women

Folic Acid supplements for women who may become pregnant

Gestational diabetes screening for women 24 to 28 weeks pregnant and those at high risk of developing gestational diabetes

Gonorrhea screening for all women at higher risk

Hepatitis B screening for pregnant women at their first prenatal visit

HIV screening and counseling for sexually active women

Human Papillomavirus (HPV) DNA Test every 3 years for women with normal cytology results who are 30 or older Osteoporosis screening for women over age 60 depending on risk factors

Rh Incompatibility screening for all pregnant women and follow-up testing for women at higher risk

Sexually Transmitted Infections counselingfor sexually active women

Syphilis screening for all pregnant women or other women at increased risk

Tobacco Use screening and interventions for all women, and expanded counseling for pregnant tobacco users

Urinary tract or other infection screening for pregnant women

Well-woman visits to get recommended services for women under 65

Autism screening for children at 18 and 24 months

Behavioral assessments for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Blood Pressure screening for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years , 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Cervical Dysplasia screening for sexually active females

Depression screening for adolescents

Developmental screening for children under age 3

Dyslipidemia screening for children at higher risk of lipid disorders at the following ages: 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Fluoride Chemoprevention supplements for children without fluoride in their water source

Gonorrhea preventive medication for the eyes of all newborns

Hearing screening for all newborns

Height, Weight and Body Mass Index measurements for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years,11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Hematocrit or Hemoglobin screening for children

Hemoglobinopathies or sickle cell screening for newborns

HIV screening for adolescents at higher risk

Hypothyroidism screening for newborns

Immunization vaccines for children from birth to age 18 —doses, recommended ages, and recommended populations vary: Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis, Haemophilus influenzae type b, Hepatitis A, Hepatitis B, Human Papillomavirus, Inactivated Poliovirus, Influenza (Flu Shot), Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Meningococcal, Pneumococcal, Rotavirus, Varicella

Iron supplements for children ages 6 to 12 months at risk for anemia

Lead screening for children at risk of exposure

Medical History for all children throughout development at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Obesity screening and counseling

Oral Health risk assessment for young children Ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years.

Phenylketonuria (PKU) screening for this genetic disorder in newborns

Sexually Transmitted Infection (STI) prevention counseling and screening for adolescents at higher risk Tuberculin testing for children at higher risk of tuberculosis at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

Vision screening for all children.

This is not a joke or satire. I copied and pasted all this directly from the healthcare.gov website.

All this cumulatively is very expensive.

Obama must think we are all living in the doctor’s office. We don’t need or want all this crap. Most people don’t need most of the items on this list.

I’ve never had a flu shot. I don’t plan on ever getting one. I pay for my own eyeglasses, teeth cleanings, and annual physical exams.

When and if we need some of these items, most of us can pay for these kinds of routine items out of pocket, which would be even easier with tax-free health care savings accounts.

How expensive is a condom?

Is that what we really need health insurance to cover? Should I really be required to pay for someone else’s STD screenings?

Insurance is always a bad bet — which is why you want as little insurance as possible. Insurance companies make a good profit by betting on your continued good health. I don’t think this makes them evil.

You should follow the example of the insurance companies and bet on your own good health. You only need insurance to protect yourself from a true disaster.

And, of course, anything and everything the government gets involved in gets more expensive. usually exponentially.

But, you might ask, what about people pre-existing conditions?

That’s an easy fix.

They can be put in a high-risk pool and subsidized. But let’s not include self-inflicted illnesses (such as alcoholism, drug abuse, and obesity) in the pre-existing condition category.

But what about the elderly?

We have Medicare. Without ObamaCare, we could restore the $716 BILLION that Obama stole from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare.

What about the poor?

We have Medicaid.

So there was no need at all for anything like ObamaCare.

Yes, the old system needed some reforms — some tweaks here and there.

My Nine Tweaks that Would Have Fixed Most of the Flaws in America’s Health Care System

After we repeal ObamaCare, here would be my nine-point plan (tweaks) to fix the old U.S. health care system, which was the best in the world:

1) If really needed, expand Medicaid to address the uncovered poor (easy to expand an existing, well-established program).

2) Make health insurance tax-deductible for individuals (like it is for businesses).

3) Allow insurers to compete across state lines (competition always brings costs down, improves quality and choices)

4) Expand Health Care Savings Accounts (Tax-deferred, like-IRAs)

5) Cap Medical malpractice lawsuit awards (a big upward driver of health care costs)

6) Subsidize those with expensive pre-existing conditions. This could probably be done through Medicaid.

7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.

8) Medical costs and doctor visits should be tax-deductible to encourage illness prevention.

9) Restore the $716 billion that was stolen from Medicare to pay for ObamaCare.

I actually think Medicare was a pretty good idea. Our parents and grandparents should not be bankrupted for the getting old, or not treated when they get cancer or other fatal or debilitating illness through no fault of their own. Getting old is beyond the scope of what we can expect private insurance to cover. But we certainly don’t need Medicare for all, including the healthy who are producing income. The private insurance market most certainly can cover the young and healthy.

These reforms could fit on a single sheet of paper — in contrast to the 2,700-page ObamaCare law, plus 15,000 pages of ObamaCare regulations.

There.

Health care insurance problems fixed.

We bring overall health care costs down by phasing out third-party payment systems as much as possible (including employer-provided insurance) and by making individuals responsible for the lion’s share of their own health care coverage. Then watch health care costs drop.

Flat screen TVs, personal computers, and cell phones used to be prohibitively expensive for most people. Now almost everyone can afford them, even people on welfare. A flat screen TV used to cost $20,000 when they first hit the market. Now they cost $600 — for a good one.

When the market is allowed to operate freely, without a lot of government interference and mandates, costs always come down — often to almost nothing.

This is how human progress occurs. This is how free-market capitalism helps everyone become better off, including the poor — as even oneof my favorite rockers Bono admits .

We then take care of the elderly with Medicare (when health care really can become prohibitively costly). And we provide for the poor with Medicaid. All this was happening under the pre-ObamaCare system.

We had a mostly good health care system. It just needed a few tweaks, some minor adjustments.

There was no need to completely reorganize 18 percent of the U.S. economy with ObamaCare.


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1 posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by xzins
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To: All

Here are my favorites (not that the others aren’t no one’s business but the individual)

1. Aspirin use to prevent cardiovascular disease for men and women of certain ages

— YOU CAN’T BUY A BOTTLE OF ASPIRIN!!!

2. obesity screening

— CALLED ‘STAND ON THE SCALE’ DOOFUS!


2 posted on 11/11/2013 5:29:00 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
What is really funny to me is all that stuff is a Cadillac Plan, but he is gonna tax those brutally, yet his minions who sign up for this mess get this full boat BCBS type plan with a subsidy, and we all get to pay for it Redistribution, plain and simple.
3 posted on 11/11/2013 5:33:45 PM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: xzins
with each day we were.... coming CLOSER... to knowing "whats In it" on the release of this information....I feel so much more secure lmowing that this entire bag of jive will soon be passing on into the ether !!




4 posted on 11/11/2013 5:36:47 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: taildragger

I have intentionally NEVER bought a Cadillac. I have always purchased cars based on utility and price.

I have a pickup for working around my mini-farm

I have a high mpg car for drives to the city.

I have a tractor because I need a tractor.

I don’t need pregnancy anything on my family plan. My kids are in their 30’s, and barring a miracle of Abraham/Sarah dimensions, there aren’t any more coming along.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 5:38:31 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I hope we can kill it, but I’m POSITIVE the Gop-E is in favor of it.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 5:41:18 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Im thinking the GOP E....may need to have the FEAR OF GOD,,,drummed into them

Im thinking that a MASS OUTPOURING of feet on the ground in the streets og WASHINGTON....is the ONLY WAY to get this done.

WE THE PEOPLE are the only hope we have.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 5:44:41 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

Cruz agrees with you. He says a tsunami of people will change this. I agree. It’s mobilizing those people that’s the problem.


8 posted on 11/11/2013 5:47:27 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

all poison pills. Please go to court. We can win this. Just need a Plaintiff, congress, whomever


9 posted on 11/11/2013 5:49:07 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: xzins
The title does not do any real service to our side of the argument.

Many of the "absurd" things on the list are things which insurance companies typically cover, for reasons I will point out in a moment. The absurdity lies not there, but in banning the very useful and popular catastrophic-only policies (which even leftist journalists who used to work for MSNBC support because they are desirable for anyone who is reasonably healthy and at all fiscally responsible).

Some of the "absurd" items actually are, because they are not covering a contingency, but a choice. The main effect of the contraceptive mandate is to raise the cost of policies by the cost of contraceptives plus the administrative overhead generated by the need to process additional claims for their purchase.

On the other hand, other items on the list have been commonly covered by health insurance policies because there is a sound actuarial reason for covering them: encouraging people to buy them cuts estimated cost of claims paid overall (smoking cessation programs and immunizations being notable examples).

Had they wanted the law to actually work, they would have consulted actuaries and would have defined the "Bronze" plan to be more or less a catastrophic-only policy plus coverage for an annual physical with some minor attendant lab work, and those items of the sort on the "absurd" list in the article which actuarially would pay for themselves in reduced claims at the catastrophic level, and allowed employers to offer the same.

10 posted on 11/11/2013 5:49:19 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: xzins

Healthcare insurance in this country is like cable TV subscriptions. There’s no menu option. All or nothing.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:34 PM PST by lafarge (Withhold your votes!)
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To: xzins

This article had me until this:

“7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.”

Jail people for going to the ER without health insurance?! there is no ‘right say’ for the gov’t to impose a ‘requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance.’


12 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:51 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: xzins

They mandated that I have Man-turnity care coverage in case I ever get pregnants.


13 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: xzins

The company I work for are analyzing the benefits of continuing our insurance or making a wage adjustment to cover obamacare. But the way they analyze means i should be covered until 2035. At a recent meeting the bosses wife made a comment after he had left the room that caused a pregnant silence. It made me think maternity insurance would be a good thing.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 5:55:14 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: xzins

Do you have to ask for these “screenings” and “treatments” or will you get them whether you want them or not?


15 posted on 11/11/2013 5:55:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: The_Reader_David

This whole plan is designed for call in sick for any and all screenings, just like in the army... and government will make sure it will not deliver or delay.


16 posted on 11/11/2013 5:58:13 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: BenLurkin

I am sure company boss will not be able to fire you for a breast exam... I can hear the feminists mobilizing their lawyers. This is a get out of work ticket.


17 posted on 11/11/2013 5:59:41 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: xzins
So, I am paying for an abortion and I don't plan on having one.

That is just so wrong on so many levels.

18 posted on 11/11/2013 6:01:12 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: BenLurkin

If the government can poke and prod your portals, they’d have so much more fun doing it over your objections.

They’ll probably develop a “Screening Swat Team” with their own doc. Busting down doors at midnight and taking samples, my man.

Prepare your prostate now for forced testing backed up by 5.56.

/sorta sarc


19 posted on 11/11/2013 6:01:30 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

“Well-woman visits to get recommended services for women under 65”

How about some well-women visits for the guys?


20 posted on 11/11/2013 6:07:01 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: xzins
Behavioral assessments for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

That's none of the government's effing business.

21 posted on 11/11/2013 6:08:41 PM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: xzins

——Breast Cancer Genetic Test Counseling (BRCA)for women at higher risk for breast cancer——

As a man, I can sleep like a baby knowing I am covered for this very very expensive test...


22 posted on 11/11/2013 6:08:53 PM PST by Popman
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To: grumpygresh
How about some well-women visits for the guys?

ObamaCare Subscriptions to E Harmony.com or Match.com? LOL.

23 posted on 11/11/2013 6:10:02 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If you go to the ER without insurance you should just get a bill — plain and simple. If you don’t pay the bill, you go to jail. Case closed.


24 posted on 11/11/2013 6:15:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: xzins

Those 72 items (demands) are specifically included, to drive private insurance companies out of the pool of health care insurers.

You can’t provide all that and stay in business. You’ll have to raise your rates so high, most folks will have to drop out, you will be unable to sell your policies and single payer becomes the only thing left.


25 posted on 11/11/2013 6:15:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: xzins

Calling this debacle “ObamaCare” obscures the massive irony in the actual title: The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. So are we as a nation better protected? Are costs lower?

Voters need to ask themselves:
1. When your insurance was cancelled due to the democrats’ law, did that make you feel “protected”?
2. When you are forced to pay many times more for policies with a higher deductable, did that make care more “affordable”?
3. Who did this to us?
4. Who had the foresight to oppose it?


26 posted on 11/11/2013 6:16:55 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: xzins

Fluoride Chemoprevention supplements for children without fluoride in their water source

Sebelius IS Joseph Mengala


27 posted on 11/11/2013 6:17:43 PM PST by Captain7seas
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To: xzins
They must be using Berry and Moochelles medical histories to come up with that list.
28 posted on 11/11/2013 6:18:46 PM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: Chewbarkah

plus this isn’t insurance, it’s pre-paid medical.

Insurance is meant to protect people when something catastrophic happens. Insurance is not $5 copays on well checks.


29 posted on 11/11/2013 6:20:50 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Captain7seas

Josef Mengele, The Angel Of Death


30 posted on 11/11/2013 6:21:34 PM PST by Captain7seas
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To: xzins
2) Make health insurance tax-deductible for individuals (like it is for businesses).

This is primary effect of zerOcare. Health insurance goes from a pre-tax business expense for some, to an after-tax expense for all.

31 posted on 11/11/2013 6:25:28 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: DoughtyOne; xzins

Depression screening for adults: they’re called taxpayers.


32 posted on 11/11/2013 6:26:56 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: xzins

I think if we want to pick this article apart we are falling for precisely what it is the scammers in the roles of leadership are wanting of us. They want us to focus on just such a list as this author provided to further divert us from the fact this isn’t about healthcare, but about control.

OBAMACARE is about setting the precedent that will in one way or another prevail in the favor of the Leftist’s, the Marxist’s so ‘H’ bent on ruling the World.


33 posted on 11/11/2013 6:29:34 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: xzins

Much of this coverage is about problems that can easily be avoided with something called self-responsibility. Drug counseling, Hep B, HIV, Chlamydia, diet counseling, contraceptives, morning after pill, smoking cessation.


34 posted on 11/11/2013 6:30:18 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: 4Liberty

Yes, and don’t forget how the U.S.S.R. abused the mental health issue during the cold war.


35 posted on 11/11/2013 6:31:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Why should hospital bills be any different from other bills? People don’t go to jail if they can’t (or don’t) pay their bills.


36 posted on 11/11/2013 6:33:10 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: xzins

What? No gender reassignment surgery? There must be some mistake. Calling Nancy Pelosi.


37 posted on 11/11/2013 6:33:43 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: xzins

How about that health care must be provided in 160 different languages other than English.


38 posted on 11/11/2013 6:37:08 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: xzins

This is the purest form of stupidity that ever existed. Why is anyone even discussing how we implement this disaster? The American people have been lied to, and the perpetrators need to be held accountable.

How do these people face themselves and their children everyday?

Not the America I know.


39 posted on 11/11/2013 6:37:11 PM PST by Kryn-Man (Self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', redneck)
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To: xzins
7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.

Unnecessary. Hospitals are opening Urgent Care Centers adjacent to the Emergency Departments. Expand programs to reimburse the UC Centers.
40 posted on 11/11/2013 6:40:37 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Chewbarkah

Dummies will still blame the evil Republicans regardless. At least I have one convert at work. He’s all quiet now about Obamacare.


41 posted on 11/11/2013 6:40:38 PM PST by USAF80
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To: rockinqsranch

While I agree with you that we should always question their motives, I think it’s important for our fellow citizens to see some of the absurd things that are required to be in EVERY policy.

WHY should maternity be in the policy of EVERY American?

Why should ASPIRIN be paid for by insurance AND required in every policy?

If you’re a reckless driver, then you should have to have that kind of car insurance, but I’m not, and the government shouldn’t be requiring me to have it.

If you like fragrance in your car, then go buy it, you shouldn’t have the government requiring it in EVERY car insurance policy.

This kind of nonsense is exactly what opens peoples’ eyes sometimes about the difference between too much government and a government that only handles essential items for governments. When they start thinking along those lines, then it’s possible that good can follow close behind.


42 posted on 11/11/2013 6:41:47 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

I don’t think it isn’t working.

It’s working grandly to blow back in the Dems’ faces!!


43 posted on 11/11/2013 6:45:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: USAF80

Those evil Republicans didn’t stop the evil Democrats from being too evil :-)


44 posted on 11/11/2013 6:47:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: xzins
I’m POSITIVE the Gop-E is in favor of it.

Perhaps at the outset, when the thing was just a plan and a piece of legislation. Now that the roll-out has produced a catastrophic fail of truly epic proportions, accompanied by almost universal ridicule, NOBODY wants to be associated with it, particularly nobody running for re-election in the midterms. It's only the Obama-worshipping denizens of the media, with their desperate search to find any miniscule silver lining in this massive black cloud, who have anything remotely positive to say about it.

45 posted on 11/11/2013 6:48:19 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: PA Engineer

It is true that some people don’t have the money to pay for any kind of health insurance. Especially if there are dependents involved, that’s an important issue. Some people — many irresponsible — will never get there.

The Good Samaritan type coverage in emergency rooms for that kind of thing was not necessary, but I understood it, and in the context of a Good Samaritan, I was willing to go along with it.

It got abused and got crazy.

At least they should have been tracking individual abusers by SSN, so they could modify to deny emergency room care.


46 posted on 11/11/2013 6:50:27 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
When government runs a thing, cost is no object.
47 posted on 11/11/2013 6:50:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
True. But at the same time, I can't think of any other privately-run establishment where the owner/operator is required to provide products or services to their "customers" even if they know up front that the customers can't pay the bill.

Without something as harsh as the threat of jail time, you're giving hospitals no other choice but to: (1) require uninsured patients to pay cash or post a bond up front, or (2) close down.

48 posted on 11/11/2013 6:51:00 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: xzins
You don't seem to grasp the basic concept of “insurance”.

That's OK, neither does the Government.

49 posted on 11/11/2013 6:51:16 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: JennysCool

I am not even sure what really qualifies as a GOP-E anyhow. I guess that’s GOP lite or something. Dunno. Hard to be as demented as a modern Democrat.


50 posted on 11/11/2013 6:51:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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