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72 Absurd Items ObamaCare Requires Your Health Insurance to Cover
Conservative HQ ^ | 11/08/13 | Ben Hart

Posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by xzins

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1 posted on 11/11/2013 5:28:25 PM PST by xzins
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To: All

Here are my favorites (not that the others aren’t no one’s business but the individual)

1. Aspirin use to prevent cardiovascular disease for men and women of certain ages

— YOU CAN’T BUY A BOTTLE OF ASPIRIN!!!

2. obesity screening

— CALLED ‘STAND ON THE SCALE’ DOOFUS!


2 posted on 11/11/2013 5:29:00 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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What is really funny to me is all that stuff is a Cadillac Plan, but he is gonna tax those brutally, yet his minions who sign up for this mess get this full boat BCBS type plan with a subsidy, and we all get to pay for it Redistribution, plain and simple.
3 posted on 11/11/2013 5:33:45 PM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: xzins
with each day we were.... coming CLOSER... to knowing "whats In it" on the release of this information....I feel so much more secure lmowing that this entire bag of jive will soon be passing on into the ether !!




4 posted on 11/11/2013 5:36:47 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: taildragger

I have intentionally NEVER bought a Cadillac. I have always purchased cars based on utility and price.

I have a pickup for working around my mini-farm

I have a high mpg car for drives to the city.

I have a tractor because I need a tractor.

I don’t need pregnancy anything on my family plan. My kids are in their 30’s, and barring a miracle of Abraham/Sarah dimensions, there aren’t any more coming along.


5 posted on 11/11/2013 5:38:31 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

I hope we can kill it, but I’m POSITIVE the Gop-E is in favor of it.


6 posted on 11/11/2013 5:41:18 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Im thinking the GOP E....may need to have the FEAR OF GOD,,,drummed into them

Im thinking that a MASS OUTPOURING of feet on the ground in the streets og WASHINGTON....is the ONLY WAY to get this done.

WE THE PEOPLE are the only hope we have.


7 posted on 11/11/2013 5:44:41 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ( Visit http://icantenroll.com/ In Glitch We Trust....;o})
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To: MeshugeMikey

Cruz agrees with you. He says a tsunami of people will change this. I agree. It’s mobilizing those people that’s the problem.


8 posted on 11/11/2013 5:47:27 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

all poison pills. Please go to court. We can win this. Just need a Plaintiff, congress, whomever


9 posted on 11/11/2013 5:49:07 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: xzins
The title does not do any real service to our side of the argument.

Many of the "absurd" things on the list are things which insurance companies typically cover, for reasons I will point out in a moment. The absurdity lies not there, but in banning the very useful and popular catastrophic-only policies (which even leftist journalists who used to work for MSNBC support because they are desirable for anyone who is reasonably healthy and at all fiscally responsible).

Some of the "absurd" items actually are, because they are not covering a contingency, but a choice. The main effect of the contraceptive mandate is to raise the cost of policies by the cost of contraceptives plus the administrative overhead generated by the need to process additional claims for their purchase.

On the other hand, other items on the list have been commonly covered by health insurance policies because there is a sound actuarial reason for covering them: encouraging people to buy them cuts estimated cost of claims paid overall (smoking cessation programs and immunizations being notable examples).

Had they wanted the law to actually work, they would have consulted actuaries and would have defined the "Bronze" plan to be more or less a catastrophic-only policy plus coverage for an annual physical with some minor attendant lab work, and those items of the sort on the "absurd" list in the article which actuarially would pay for themselves in reduced claims at the catastrophic level, and allowed employers to offer the same.

10 posted on 11/11/2013 5:49:19 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: xzins

Healthcare insurance in this country is like cable TV subscriptions. There’s no menu option. All or nothing.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:34 PM PST by lafarge (Withhold your votes!)
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To: xzins

This article had me until this:

“7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.”

Jail people for going to the ER without health insurance?! there is no ‘right say’ for the gov’t to impose a ‘requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance.’


12 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:51 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: xzins

They mandated that I have Man-turnity care coverage in case I ever get pregnants.


13 posted on 11/11/2013 5:53:54 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: xzins

The company I work for are analyzing the benefits of continuing our insurance or making a wage adjustment to cover obamacare. But the way they analyze means i should be covered until 2035. At a recent meeting the bosses wife made a comment after he had left the room that caused a pregnant silence. It made me think maternity insurance would be a good thing.


14 posted on 11/11/2013 5:55:14 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: xzins

Do you have to ask for these “screenings” and “treatments” or will you get them whether you want them or not?


15 posted on 11/11/2013 5:55:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: The_Reader_David

This whole plan is designed for call in sick for any and all screenings, just like in the army... and government will make sure it will not deliver or delay.


16 posted on 11/11/2013 5:58:13 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: BenLurkin

I am sure company boss will not be able to fire you for a breast exam... I can hear the feminists mobilizing their lawyers. This is a get out of work ticket.


17 posted on 11/11/2013 5:59:41 PM PST by lavaroise
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To: xzins
So, I am paying for an abortion and I don't plan on having one.

That is just so wrong on so many levels.

18 posted on 11/11/2013 6:01:12 PM PST by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: BenLurkin

If the government can poke and prod your portals, they’d have so much more fun doing it over your objections.

They’ll probably develop a “Screening Swat Team” with their own doc. Busting down doors at midnight and taking samples, my man.

Prepare your prostate now for forced testing backed up by 5.56.

/sorta sarc


19 posted on 11/11/2013 6:01:30 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

“Well-woman visits to get recommended services for women under 65”

How about some well-women visits for the guys?


20 posted on 11/11/2013 6:07:01 PM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est. New US economy: Fascism on top, Socialism on the bottom.)
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To: xzins
Behavioral assessments for children at the following ages: 0 to 11 months, 1 to 4 years, 5 to 10 years, 11 to 14 years, 15 to 17 years.

That's none of the government's effing business.

21 posted on 11/11/2013 6:08:41 PM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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——Breast Cancer Genetic Test Counseling (BRCA)for women at higher risk for breast cancer——

As a man, I can sleep like a baby knowing I am covered for this very very expensive test...


22 posted on 11/11/2013 6:08:53 PM PST by Popman
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To: grumpygresh
How about some well-women visits for the guys?

ObamaCare Subscriptions to E Harmony.com or Match.com? LOL.

23 posted on 11/11/2013 6:10:02 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

If you go to the ER without insurance you should just get a bill — plain and simple. If you don’t pay the bill, you go to jail. Case closed.


24 posted on 11/11/2013 6:15:27 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: xzins

Those 72 items (demands) are specifically included, to drive private insurance companies out of the pool of health care insurers.

You can’t provide all that and stay in business. You’ll have to raise your rates so high, most folks will have to drop out, you will be unable to sell your policies and single payer becomes the only thing left.


25 posted on 11/11/2013 6:15:51 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: xzins

Calling this debacle “ObamaCare” obscures the massive irony in the actual title: The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. So are we as a nation better protected? Are costs lower?

Voters need to ask themselves:
1. When your insurance was cancelled due to the democrats’ law, did that make you feel “protected”?
2. When you are forced to pay many times more for policies with a higher deductable, did that make care more “affordable”?
3. Who did this to us?
4. Who had the foresight to oppose it?


26 posted on 11/11/2013 6:16:55 PM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: xzins

Fluoride Chemoprevention supplements for children without fluoride in their water source

Sebelius IS Joseph Mengala


27 posted on 11/11/2013 6:17:43 PM PST by Captain7seas
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To: xzins
They must be using Berry and Moochelles medical histories to come up with that list.
28 posted on 11/11/2013 6:18:46 PM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: Chewbarkah

plus this isn’t insurance, it’s pre-paid medical.

Insurance is meant to protect people when something catastrophic happens. Insurance is not $5 copays on well checks.


29 posted on 11/11/2013 6:20:50 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Captain7seas

Josef Mengele, The Angel Of Death


30 posted on 11/11/2013 6:21:34 PM PST by Captain7seas
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To: xzins
2) Make health insurance tax-deductible for individuals (like it is for businesses).

This is primary effect of zerOcare. Health insurance goes from a pre-tax business expense for some, to an after-tax expense for all.

31 posted on 11/11/2013 6:25:28 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: DoughtyOne; xzins

Depression screening for adults: they’re called taxpayers.


32 posted on 11/11/2013 6:26:56 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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To: xzins

I think if we want to pick this article apart we are falling for precisely what it is the scammers in the roles of leadership are wanting of us. They want us to focus on just such a list as this author provided to further divert us from the fact this isn’t about healthcare, but about control.

OBAMACARE is about setting the precedent that will in one way or another prevail in the favor of the Leftist’s, the Marxist’s so ‘H’ bent on ruling the World.


33 posted on 11/11/2013 6:29:34 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: xzins

Much of this coverage is about problems that can easily be avoided with something called self-responsibility. Drug counseling, Hep B, HIV, Chlamydia, diet counseling, contraceptives, morning after pill, smoking cessation.


34 posted on 11/11/2013 6:30:18 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: 4Liberty

Yes, and don’t forget how the U.S.S.R. abused the mental health issue during the cold war.


35 posted on 11/11/2013 6:31:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Why should hospital bills be any different from other bills? People don’t go to jail if they can’t (or don’t) pay their bills.


36 posted on 11/11/2013 6:33:10 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: xzins

What? No gender reassignment surgery? There must be some mistake. Calling Nancy Pelosi.


37 posted on 11/11/2013 6:33:43 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: xzins

How about that health care must be provided in 160 different languages other than English.


38 posted on 11/11/2013 6:37:08 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: xzins

This is the purest form of stupidity that ever existed. Why is anyone even discussing how we implement this disaster? The American people have been lied to, and the perpetrators need to be held accountable.

How do these people face themselves and their children everyday?

Not the America I know.


39 posted on 11/11/2013 6:37:11 PM PST by Kryn-Man (Self-righteous, gun-totin', military-lovin', redneck)
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To: xzins
7) Those who show up at an Emergency Room without health insurance would be treated, but then sanctioned criminally. Probably pay a fine or do community service. Multiple offenders risk jail time (like deadbeat dads). That takes care of the Emergency Room problem. It’s a requirement that everyone have some kind of health insurance done the right way.

Unnecessary. Hospitals are opening Urgent Care Centers adjacent to the Emergency Departments. Expand programs to reimburse the UC Centers.
40 posted on 11/11/2013 6:40:37 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: Chewbarkah

Dummies will still blame the evil Republicans regardless. At least I have one convert at work. He’s all quiet now about Obamacare.


41 posted on 11/11/2013 6:40:38 PM PST by USAF80
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To: rockinqsranch

While I agree with you that we should always question their motives, I think it’s important for our fellow citizens to see some of the absurd things that are required to be in EVERY policy.

WHY should maternity be in the policy of EVERY American?

Why should ASPIRIN be paid for by insurance AND required in every policy?

If you’re a reckless driver, then you should have to have that kind of car insurance, but I’m not, and the government shouldn’t be requiring me to have it.

If you like fragrance in your car, then go buy it, you shouldn’t have the government requiring it in EVERY car insurance policy.

This kind of nonsense is exactly what opens peoples’ eyes sometimes about the difference between too much government and a government that only handles essential items for governments. When they start thinking along those lines, then it’s possible that good can follow close behind.


42 posted on 11/11/2013 6:41:47 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

I don’t think it isn’t working.

It’s working grandly to blow back in the Dems’ faces!!


43 posted on 11/11/2013 6:45:58 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: USAF80

Those evil Republicans didn’t stop the evil Democrats from being too evil :-)


44 posted on 11/11/2013 6:47:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: xzins
I’m POSITIVE the Gop-E is in favor of it.

Perhaps at the outset, when the thing was just a plan and a piece of legislation. Now that the roll-out has produced a catastrophic fail of truly epic proportions, accompanied by almost universal ridicule, NOBODY wants to be associated with it, particularly nobody running for re-election in the midterms. It's only the Obama-worshipping denizens of the media, with their desperate search to find any miniscule silver lining in this massive black cloud, who have anything remotely positive to say about it.

45 posted on 11/11/2013 6:48:19 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: PA Engineer

It is true that some people don’t have the money to pay for any kind of health insurance. Especially if there are dependents involved, that’s an important issue. Some people — many irresponsible — will never get there.

The Good Samaritan type coverage in emergency rooms for that kind of thing was not necessary, but I understood it, and in the context of a Good Samaritan, I was willing to go along with it.

It got abused and got crazy.

At least they should have been tracking individual abusers by SSN, so they could modify to deny emergency room care.


46 posted on 11/11/2013 6:50:27 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
When government runs a thing, cost is no object.
47 posted on 11/11/2013 6:50:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
True. But at the same time, I can't think of any other privately-run establishment where the owner/operator is required to provide products or services to their "customers" even if they know up front that the customers can't pay the bill.

Without something as harsh as the threat of jail time, you're giving hospitals no other choice but to: (1) require uninsured patients to pay cash or post a bond up front, or (2) close down.

48 posted on 11/11/2013 6:51:00 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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You don't seem to grasp the basic concept of “insurance”.

That's OK, neither does the Government.

49 posted on 11/11/2013 6:51:16 PM PST by sarasmom (Extortion 17. A large number of Navy SEALs died on that mission. Ask why.)
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To: JennysCool

I am not even sure what really qualifies as a GOP-E anyhow. I guess that’s GOP lite or something. Dunno. Hard to be as demented as a modern Democrat.


50 posted on 11/11/2013 6:51:46 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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