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Hagel Says Cuts to Pay and Benefits are Needed
http://www.military.com ^ | November 5, 2013 | Richard Sisk

Posted on 11/11/2013 6:54:18 PM PST by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet

Yet the bloated civilian force should be given paid time even when they didn’t have to work?


21 posted on 11/11/2013 7:14:01 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat ("I was all for Obamacare until I found out I was paying for it,")
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To: donmeaker

Everything Obama says is the opposite of what he means. That is why he doesn’t understand that people believed him when he said they could keep their health care plans if they liked them. Only true morons, idiots and zombies believe a word that escapes from his mouth. Even he knows it.


22 posted on 11/11/2013 7:15:26 PM PST by gspurlock (http://www.backyardfence.wordpress.com)
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To: donmeaker
Everything he says has an expiration date.

Was he using a teleprompter?

23 posted on 11/11/2013 7:15:32 PM PST by IncPen (When you start talking about what we 'should' have, you've made the case for the Second Amendment)
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To: NKP_Vet

***retirees get too much money***

Let’s walk through this. In my military mind an enlisted Solider* who reaches the pay grade of E-7 has had a successful career. Stuff happens and some don’t reach that rank, stuff happens with others and they reach a higher rank. And of course enlisted Soldiers make up the vast majority of the force and therefore retirees

An E-7 retiring at 22 years will make $24,260. A lousy $24K for being away from family, being shot at, seeing his battle buddies blown to hell. And the SECDEF thinks that is too much.

(*Soldier/Sailor, Marine, Airman, Coastie)


24 posted on 11/11/2013 7:16:42 PM PST by Gamecock (If you have to be One,be a Big Red One.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Yet the bloated civilian force should be given paid time even when they didn’t have to work?

Bears repeating!! I am beyond words myself to add anything about this outrage so I'll just repeat your words.

25 posted on 11/11/2013 7:17:40 PM PST by plain talk
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To: NKP_Vet

more treason


26 posted on 11/11/2013 7:18:21 PM PST by RatRipper (The political left are utterly evil and corrupt)
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To: NKP_Vet

More broken promises...I remember when TRICARE first came on the scene and there were angry crowds at the base theaters where they were briefing about this new healthcare program...I think this time there will be more than just angry crowds. There will be a lot of pi$$ed off military members, retirees, vets and their families being way more vocal about the broken bonds of trust. We’re fed up with this and other ways the military and its leaders are being treated. It’s more than just a purge—it’s a direct effort to gut, demoralize and weaken our nation’s military. This goes beyond healthcare, and we all know it. Upchuck Schmagel needs to man up and demand MORE money not less. They stop spending the money on ammo for the DHS and give that money to the military healthcare system instead. Who do they really want to defend this country????


27 posted on 11/11/2013 7:19:08 PM PST by sassy steel magnolia
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To: NKP_Vet

This is an easy problem to fix. cancel all the wars bring our troops home.


28 posted on 11/11/2013 7:21:52 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Gamecock

Hagel was picked for a reason. He wants to cut the military.

But, he is merely doing Obama’s bidding.


29 posted on 11/11/2013 7:25:44 PM PST by rbmillerjr (Ted Cruz...2016-24 ...A New Conservative Era)
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To: NKP_Vet
And previously, former SecDef Panetta used to fly home to California every weekend.

April 17, 2012: Panetta’s weekend commute costs as much as GSA Vegas junket


Defense Secretary Leon Panetta flies home to California almost every weekend, racking up costs for the American taxpayer roughly equal to the cost of the General Services Administration's junket to Las Vegas that has Congress fuming mad this week.

The AP reported earlier this month that Panetta, who has been commuting to his northern California home each weekend for decades, has made at least 27 round trips on government airplanes since becoming defense secretary and only reimburses the taxpayer $630 of the $32,000 cost of each trip. He is only legally required to reimburse the government for the commercial coach class fare.


April 16, 2012: Panetta Regrets Cost of His Weekend Trips to California as Defense Secretary

Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said today he regrets the high cost of his weekend travels to California, and is looking for ways to save money on flights that have totaled about $860,000 since he came to the Pentagon last July.

Throughout his Washington career, Panetta has routinely returned to his walnut farm in Monterey, Calif. on weekends. He did so as a congressman, as a cabinet member and as chief of staff in the Clinton White House...

...He also defended the trips, saying his wife and family are in California and that “it’s healthy to get out of Washington periodically just to get your mind straight and your perspective straight.”

“I regret that it does — you know, that it does add costs that the taxpayer has to pick up,” Panetta said today.


Elite vs. grunts on display.

-PJ

30 posted on 11/11/2013 7:35:02 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Olog-hai

when cuts are made to persons receiving government checks, the military will be the last.

Start with Congress and staff,then everyone who belongs to the government employees union.Use a bush axe for these mostly civilians are now making much more than their non-governmental counterparts.

They must be really low life to even think of cutting the military - shame!!


31 posted on 11/11/2013 7:38:20 PM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Olog-hai

But no cuts for the drones in the Department of Education.

Hegel is our enemy. No doubt about it.


32 posted on 11/11/2013 7:51:33 PM PST by DManA
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To: NKP_Vet

What’s the medical cost to the DoD of enlisting rump rangers who end up with AIDS, hepatitis, or any number of other sexually transmitted diseases? How much are medical costs driven up by enlisting more females and putting them in physically demanding (and destructive) combat jobs?


33 posted on 11/11/2013 8:00:04 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Democrats! The party of the big cram down. They only liberties they support? Abortion and sodomy.)
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To: GreyFriar

Nothing is too good for the troops.


34 posted on 11/11/2013 8:00:33 PM PST by zot
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To: pacpam

Yeah, but they can’t strike. I saw DOD strike promoters hauled off by the FBI during the Daddy Bush reductions in force.


35 posted on 11/11/2013 8:02:39 PM PST by Seruzawa (Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for good a blaster kid.)
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To: NKP_Vet

before our service members take a pay/benefit cuts...all member of Congress should lose half of their pay and then be required to sign up for obamadeathcare, and also NO life time pay check...

our military are on call 24/7 365 days a year..they put their lives on the line...Hagel is a laughing matter, how dare he even suggest this..

folks..VOTE ALL DEMOCRATS OUT IN 2014...WAKE UP AMERICANS


36 posted on 11/11/2013 8:05:41 PM PST by haircutter
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To: NKP_Vet

Come on .... who didn’t see this coming? His Arrogance feared the military from day one and did everything to tear it down while building up his “civilian force with the budget, men and equipment equal to the military”.


37 posted on 11/11/2013 8:07:26 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (An Administration of communists, incompetents, and the corrupt ...reminds one of FDR's brain trust.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Oh brother. Sequester takes care of this. No permission needed. It will happen. As much as I supported Bush on the wars, it cost a fortune and money will have to be found somewhere.


38 posted on 11/11/2013 8:53:45 PM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: NKP_Vet

The plan to drive Heterosexual, Christian Patriots out of the military proceeds according to plan.


39 posted on 11/11/2013 9:01:35 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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To: SandRat

First heard, but not surprising.
The long knives have been out for at least 4 years...


40 posted on 11/11/2013 9:18:18 PM PST by HiJinx (Bambi is Safe for Another Year.)
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