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Condemned Ohio Child Killer Wants to Donate Organs
ABC News ^ | November 11, 2013 | ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS

Posted on 11/11/2013 7:50:45 PM PST by nickcarraway

A condemned child killer who has abandoned his remaining appeals asked Monday for the chance to donate his organs to his ailing mother and sister either before or after his execution this week.

The request by Ronald Phillips to donate a kidney and his heart is not a delay tactic, but rather an attempt to make a final gesture for good, according to his public defender.

"It is our sincere hope that the state of Ohio will do the right thing to ensure that as many people as possible will benefit from the gift of life that Ron is so generously willing to bestow as his own life approaches its end," attorney Lisa Lagos said in an interview.

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1 posted on 11/11/2013 7:50:45 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Cool way to go: Just harvest his organs till he craps out.


2 posted on 11/11/2013 7:53:55 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: nickcarraway
On Thursday, Ohio plans to use midazolam, a sedative, and hydromorphone, a painkiller. It was not immediately clear Monday what effect those might have on organs.

Ask China. They do it all the time.

3 posted on 11/11/2013 7:54:50 PM PST by MUDDOG
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To: o-n-money

On the fence. Help me out people.


4 posted on 11/11/2013 7:55:27 PM PST by slouper (LWRC M6A2)
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To: o-n-money
Just harvest his organs till he craps out.

All organs are harvested before you're dead. They just don't want you to know that.

5 posted on 11/11/2013 7:57:02 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: nickcarraway

I see a very bad horror franchise coming out of this...


6 posted on 11/11/2013 8:01:30 PM PST by FredZarguna (The sequel, thoroughly pointless, derivative, and boring was like all James Cameron "films.")
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To: slouper

I’ll help you out!

I say we harvest any and all usable parts from ALL Death Row inmates; even while still living, i.e. a lung, a kidney, an eyeball, new hair plugs for Joe Biden, etc.

With or without anesthesia, your call.

Of course, you’ll need to buy a ticket when you’re a baby as they keep these POSs ALIVE for 20+ years AFTER THE CRIME and ON OUR DIME!

Save The Animals! Test new chemicals, drugs and cosmetics on them too, while you’re at it. *SMIRK*

You’re Welcome! :)


7 posted on 11/11/2013 8:02:53 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: nickcarraway

Organs, hell. I wouldn’t take a piano from this guy.


8 posted on 11/11/2013 8:04:51 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I say we harvest any and all usable parts from ALL Death Row inmates; even while still living, i.e. a lung, a kidney, an eyeball, new hair plugs for Joe Biden, etc.

Just put em on a table with the necessary tubes and equipment to keep them alive, and harvest away...'till there's nothing useful left.

Then pull the plug.

9 posted on 11/11/2013 8:09:57 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: slouper
Sadly, I would have to say no.

We can never allow the precedent of harvesting organs from the condemned.

There are frighteningly few steps between allowing one man to do the right thing, expecting all condemned to donate, to requiring them to donate, to a lowered threshold to convict, because after all even if we're not certain he's guilty so many others will live because of his organs, (and besides, the state makes a bundle on kidneys and livers)...

10 posted on 11/11/2013 8:11:01 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: slouper

On the fence. Help me out people
__________________________________________

Pay-per-view.


11 posted on 11/11/2013 8:11:29 PM PST by o-n-money
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To: ROCKLOBSTER; Diana in Wisconsin

Do you really want the likes of a Eric Holder or a Valerie Jarrett, with your ACA records in one tentacle and a list of loyal party members who need organs in another tentacle and your NSA records in yet another tentacle deciding who will be accused of a capital crime this week?


12 posted on 11/11/2013 8:15:33 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: nickcarraway

Hammond or Wurlitzer?

Anything else... iffy...


13 posted on 11/11/2013 8:18:36 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Obama, the Democrat Party, the Left in the U. S., have essentially become the 4th Reich.)
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To: ladyjane
All organs are harvested before you're dead. They just don't want you to know that.

not true...you read too many tabloids.

14 posted on 11/11/2013 8:22:15 PM PST by terycarl
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To: slouper
On the fence. Help me out people.

What, are you like Hamlet, reluctant to kill Claudius at his prayers, lest he go to heaven?

15 posted on 11/11/2013 8:49:51 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (If you liked the website, you'll LOVE the healthcare!)
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To: null and void
Do you really want the likes of a Eric Holder or a Valerie Jarrett, with your ACA records in one tentacle and a list of loyal party members who need organs in another tentacle and your NSA records in yet another tentacle deciding who will be accused of a capital crime this week?

No, I want it to be Newt Gingrich or Pat Buchannon.

16 posted on 11/11/2013 8:52:49 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

How long will that last? Are you familiar with why our Constitution is written to limit government power?


17 posted on 11/11/2013 8:57:34 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void
There are frighteningly few steps between allowing one man to do the right thing, expecting all condemned to donate, to requiring them to donate, to a lowered threshold to convict, because after all even if we're not certain he's guilty so many others will live because of his organs, (and besides, the state makes a bundle on kidneys and livers)...

Larry Niven explores this at length in his "Known Space" series of stories written in the '70s. This Wikipedia article explains it at length:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organlegging

The crime of organlegging developes as a response to the Organ Bank Problem, a concept featured prominently in the early Known Space stories, particularly those set in the 21st and 22nd century. The Organ Bank Problem is a central theme in the novel A Gift from Earth, as well as the Gil Hamilton detective stories.

In Niven's universe, it was possible to transplant nearly any organ in the body (and prevent rejection) by the mid 21st century. Since any organ could now be replaced, in theory one could use the organ banks to extend life indefinitely. To maintain communal organ banks, one needs donors (i.e. dead people). When the death rate is reduced (via the organ banks), the number of donors decreases. Thus, the supply of organs would continually reduce.

On Earth, the problem led to a repressive society almost unrecognizable by today's standards. Since the average citizens wished to extend their lives, the world government sought to increase the supply by using condemned criminals to supply the organ banks. When this failed to meet the demand, citizens would vote for the death penalty for more and more trivial crimes. First violent crimes, then theft, tax evasion, false advertising, and even traffic violations became punishable by the organ banks. This failed to solve the problem, as once the death penalty was passed for a crime, people stopped committing it. This resulted in nearly every crime meriting the death penalty. Further attempts to alleviate the problem by declaring certain groups of cryogenically frozen people to be dead in law (the so-called "Freezer Bills") and harvesting their organs also proved to be unsuccessful. The freezer vaults represented a finite supply and therefore were eventually exhausted.

It is not until the mid-24th century that alloplasty, improved prosthetics, and most importantly, the ability to grow the needed organs by manipulating one's own DNA, ultimately made the organ banks obsolete.

18 posted on 11/11/2013 8:58:15 PM PST by Kip Russell (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors -- and miss. ---Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: nickcarraway

Wasn’t there some cheesy 80’s or 90’s horror movie where the guy gets a transplant of a murderers amputated arm and can’t control its murdering rampage?


19 posted on 11/11/2013 9:03:49 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: ladyjane

My son-in-law died about 5 years ago at age 33. My daughter was pressured at the hospital to donate his organs, I say “pressured” because they needed an immediate decision, so she agreed.

She had to have a closed casket funeral after that, which she did not want. They took the skin from his face, which she did not know in advance that they would do.


20 posted on 11/11/2013 9:05:19 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: null and void
How long will that last?

They'd have to act quickly.

21 posted on 11/11/2013 9:12:52 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

They would, and blame the TEA party.


22 posted on 11/11/2013 9:15:33 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: terycarl

It’s partially true.

There have been some mistakes.


23 posted on 11/11/2013 9:15:35 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: terycarl

I’m just kidding tery....Or is it carl?


24 posted on 11/11/2013 9:17:09 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: nickcarraway

Wasn’t this the theme of a horror movie where the recipient of a heart from a murderer began to murder people.


25 posted on 11/11/2013 9:32:14 PM PST by Truth is a Weapon (Truth, it hurts so good.)
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To: null and void

Agree N&V.
Has to be a very clear no!


26 posted on 11/11/2013 9:40:42 PM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: nickcarraway
...for the chance to donate his organs to his ailing mother and sister either before or after, his execution this week.

Who writes like this?! I mean seriously?!

27 posted on 11/11/2013 9:44:22 PM PST by ASouthernGrl (BHO sucks - literally or metaphorically, you decide.)
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To: nickcarraway

He doesn’t have to be dead to donate a kidney.


28 posted on 11/11/2013 10:01:56 PM PST by informavoracious (Root for Obamacare and healthcare.gov failure!)
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To: slouper

>> On the fence. Help me out people

It wasn’t something like manslaughter.

- - - -

Incinerate every fiber of his being.


29 posted on 11/11/2013 11:12:41 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway

Could be dangerous; a guy I know got a kidney transplant from a circus clown who passed away.

He went right out and bought a Mini-Cooper.


30 posted on 11/12/2013 2:26:46 AM PST by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: null and void
our Constitution

Who said anything about the federal level?

31 posted on 11/12/2013 5:57:28 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Ah. I see. The people who run towns are qualitatively different than the people who run countries.

Did you know that the BTK killer worked in building code enforcement? There was a big gap in his career of Binding, Torturing and Killing, because he got so much pleasure tormenting people administratively he felt no need to actually kidnap and murder young women.

That is the sort of person who will seek out positions in the organ harvesting food chain.

And you are OK with creating those positions? Why?


32 posted on 11/12/2013 7:45:36 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

Oh, that would never happen. We are a nation of Laws! It’s not like a _Resident can just sign things into LAW with Executive Orders!

*SMIRK*

An excellent novel on the subject is, ‘Never Let Me Go’ by Ishiguro something...He wrote ‘The Remains of the Day’ and a few others. It’s about cloning and organ harvesting for the Elites. Chilling!


33 posted on 11/12/2013 7:58:12 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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34 posted on 11/12/2013 9:27:09 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: terycarl

Information did not come by the tabloids.

Once you are dead your organs are no longer useful.

It all depends on what your definition of ‘dead’ is.

I know what mine is.


35 posted on 11/12/2013 10:30:29 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: null and void
No, the Constitution applies to the federal government.

And, the powers not given to the federal government are reserved for the states and the people.

That is the sort of person who will seek out positions in the organ harvesting food chain.

Actually that is the sort of person who would be "harvested".

The first qualification was that they need to be on death row.

36 posted on 11/12/2013 11:37:53 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Making organ... well, I’d say donation but if it is mandatory it really isn’t, automatic instead of voluntary could create a dangerous perverse incentive.


37 posted on 11/12/2013 12:06:13 PM PST by JerseyanExile
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