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Spy-Proofing: Deutsche Telekom Pushes for All-German Internet
Der Spiegel ^ | November 12, 2013 01:35 PM | Frank Dohmen and Gerald Traufetter

Posted on 11/12/2013 7:58:14 AM PST by Olog-hai

Even before it emerged that the National Security Agency had wiretapped her mobile phone, German Chancellor Angela Merkel was calling for the Internet to have something like Airbus—a joint European initiative able to compete with the dominance of American and Chinese high-tech companies, just as Airbus does with the US aerospace giant Boeing.

Currently, the global market for software and online services is firmly in American hands. What’s more, American corporations, such as Google, are subject to the PATRIOT Act, which requires them to allow American intelligence agencies access to their data centers.

On the other hand, the equipment that directs traffic on the Internet often comes from China—for example, routers made by Huawei. “No one can be certain that there isn’t spying technology built in there as well,” warns Norbert Pohlmann, chair of the IT Security Association Germany (TeleTrust). …

Deutsche Telekom wants to change this state of affairs by building a purely German Internet, with data packets only sent via German pathways if the sender and recipient are both within the country. …

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: allgermaninternet; deutschetelekom; nsa; obama

1 posted on 11/12/2013 7:58:14 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

All good as long as the German Internet doesn’t start expanding into the Sudetenland, Poland, the low countries or France. We’ve seen this all before.


2 posted on 11/12/2013 8:01:32 AM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Olog-hai

Dies ist eine wunderbare Idee.


3 posted on 11/12/2013 8:04:09 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: Olog-hai

I don’t know. Some of the very first spying software in our arsenal here was server soft from German company.

ANY government is a lugubrious herd of swine and better kept under lock and key, and whipped and waterboarded three times a day.


4 posted on 11/12/2013 8:08:25 AM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Olog-hai

I would never dream of using google for anything!

The search engine I use it GoodSearch.com

I think it’s as good or better than google—and has the added benefit of letting choose a “charity” when you first sign on. Every time you use it, they donates a few pennies to your charity.

Second Amendment Sisters is the “charity” I listed.

Over the last couple of years, SAS has gotten a couple of checks from them—one of which was more than a hundred dollars.

You could choose FR as your “charity” and do a little fund raising for FR—or any other charity you would like to name.

GoodSearch has proved to be every good as google -— it’s never failed to produce results for anything I’ve typed in the search engine.


5 posted on 11/12/2013 8:09:16 AM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: Olog-hai
Anyone who thinks (s)he has ANY privacy in ANY way, shape or form is delusional.
No such thing as privacy, except in our own prayers and thoughts.
6 posted on 11/12/2013 8:12:36 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

A factual statement.


7 posted on 11/12/2013 8:20:09 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

Thank you.


8 posted on 11/12/2013 8:22:23 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Alter Kaker

Anchluss II - Electric Boogaloo!


9 posted on 11/12/2013 8:24:33 AM PST by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Olog-hai

Ze drem vil finali kum tru.


10 posted on 11/12/2013 8:26:28 AM PST by RichInOC (Palin 2016: The Perfect Storm.)
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To: Olog-hai; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; jacob allen; Travis McGee; ..

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

11 posted on 11/12/2013 8:27:29 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Olog-hai

Good luck w/that.

It’ll be a purely german internet until someones runs a cable to a router with other internet traffic.

Even if they somehow shun all other internet traffic in the country, separate-network security solutions usually don’t hold up very long.


12 posted on 11/12/2013 8:32:40 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Olog-hai
Merkel wants to control the internet. The very idea of a free network where everybody can publicly say whatever they like is a terrible nightmare to European politicians. As soon as they control it, everybody will need to get a permit before they can put up a web page or edit it. Now all they have to do is tell the sheeple that it’s all for their own good, to protect them from evil, spying Americans. That’ll convince the subjects!
13 posted on 11/12/2013 8:58:49 AM PST by cartan
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To: cartan

The EU people in Brussels must be licking their chops at this new opportunity for suppression and control.

I don’t think that all of the damage reports are in yet on how much this will cost US-based tech firms, in loss of trust. Remember - wasn’t it just a few months ago when we were fretting about Chinese clone spy chips in routers and switches? That’s the least of our problems.


14 posted on 11/12/2013 9:18:28 AM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: cartan

Yes; the Yanks are the bogeyman du jour once more. Not enough that it was “the CIA are trying to stop the EU” during the Lisbon Treaty re-vote in Ireland . . . (sad thing is, Obama deserves this in a number of ways)


15 posted on 11/12/2013 9:30:14 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Anschluss.com.

But that might be taken. So to speak.


16 posted on 11/12/2013 9:31:15 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

How about anschluss.de?


17 posted on 11/12/2013 9:32:48 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

If a tech can make it, a tech can hack it.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 11:10:10 AM PST by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: null and void

show us your papers please.....


19 posted on 11/12/2013 11:24:25 AM PST by Nifster
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To: Olog-hai

That’s even better.


20 posted on 11/12/2013 5:07:43 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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