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The Great Purge (Of the US Military)
Family Security Matters ^ | November 11, 2013 | PETER FARMER

Posted on 11/12/2013 11:01:56 AM PST by xzins

During the years 1934-1939, Soviet dictator and Communist Party General Chairman Josef Stalin ordered what later became known to history as the "Great Purge" - a period of brutal political repression, torture, imprisonment and mass murder in the Soviet Union.

Launched under the auspices of purifying the Communist Party of ideologically-unreliable elements and rooting out fifth columnists within its ranks, the purges focused initially on party leadership. However - fueled by Stalin's paranoia - they soon expanded into the military, government bureaucracy and wider Soviet society.

Members of the intelligentsia, senior government bureaucrats (nomenklatura), professionals, land-owning farmers (kulaks), members of the military and anyone else suspected of being an enemy of the state were swept up in the wave of suspicion and mutual distrust. Suspects were typically charged with espionage, anti-Soviet agitation, counter-revolutionary activity, or the like; if no "evidence" of wrong-doing could be found, it was manufactured by the secret police - the dreaded NKVD - or obtained via "confessions" extracted under torture. Following a perfunctory hearing or trial with a pre-determined outcome, most of those charged were imprisoned in the vast Soviet system of gulags (concentration camps) or executed. At the height of the purges, in 1937-1938, an estimated 1.2 million people lost their lives.

Aware of a resurgent Germany on his western flank, and a militarized and powerful Japan on his eastern frontier, Stalin - fearful of infiltrators and fifth-columnists within the ranks - ordered Commissar of State Security Nikolai Yezhov to purge the Soviet senior officer corps. Acting under orders from Premier Stalin, who sought a pretext to move against the officer corps, the NKVD instructed agent Nikolai Skoblin to pass incriminating misinformation implicating Red Army Field Marshall Mikhail Tukhachevsky, to Reinhardt Heydrich, the head of the Sicherheitsdienst (SD) - the intelligence arm of the German SS-Gestapo. Heydrich arranged for the information to be planted in such a way as to implicate Tukhachevsky and a number of other top Soviet general officers.

So began the purge of the senior officer corps of the Soviet army and navy. By the time the process ended in 1939 - with war on the horizon - the military had been decimated. Three of the five Marshalls of the Soviet Army - including Tukhachevsky himself - were executed; 13 of 18 army commanders, 8 of 9 admirals, 50 of 57 army corps commanders, and 154 out of 186 division commanders were removed; some were executed, while others were imprisoned or forced into retirement and exile. Some of the survivors were later ideologically-rehabilitated and brought back into uniform, but by then, the damage had been done.

Among its many effects, Stalin's purges left the Soviet Union utterly ill-equipped to fight the Second World War. Many of the most-experienced and proficient military officers in the Soviet army and navy - men like Marshall Tukhachevsky - were lost during the madness. More often than not, these able commanders and leaders were replaced by ideologically-reliable but militarily-incompetent Communist Party hacks. When the Germans launched Operation Barbarossa and invaded the Soviet Union in June, 1941, the Russian people paid an unspeakably terrible price for Stalin's short-sightedness, cruelty and paranoia.

Stalin's purge of the Red Army is historically-significant for many reasons, but perhaps none more important than that he episode illustrates the folly of allowing ideology to trump military necessity, practicality and pragmatism. Stalin's evil and feckless acts left his nation and people all-but-defenseless in the face of the Nazi onslaught - as the purges crippled the ability of the Soviet armed forces to respond to the invasion in a timely and effective manner. It is no exaggeration whatsoever to state that the U.S.S.R. came within a hair's breadth of surrendering when the Germans were approaching the gates of Moscow in the winter of 1941-1942. Final victory over the fascist invaders took four long years and cost some twenty million Soviet lives.

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For the historically-inclined, it is difficult not to think of Stalin's purges in light of the recent revelations of waves of coerced retirements, resignations, and firings of senior flag/general officers presently occurring throughout the upper reaches of the U.S. military. History does not repeat, it is said, but it does echo. Obama is not Stalin, but nothing prevents him and his advisors from adapting the methods of the Soviet dictator to their own purposes. The neo-communist and Pan-Islamic ideological proclivities of Obama himself and many of his top officials are a matter of public record. Likewise, the basic hostility of the regime to the traditional values and ethos of the military is well-known. Consider the following....

In 2012, Lt. Colonel Matthew Dooley, a much-decorated combat veteran and soldier with an impeccable record and fitness reports/evaluations to match, was summarily-dismissed from his post at the Joint Forces Staff College and publically-criticized by Army Chief of Staff General Martin Dempsey for making remarks critical of Islam in his course, Perspectives on Islam and Islamic Radicalism. The Joint Forces Staff College, which had approved the content of the course a number of years previously - came under pressure from more than fifty Muslim interest groups - recanted and fired Dooley. Today, it is government-wide policy (including military and federal law-enforcement agencies) that educational materials must portray Islam in a favorable - even flattering - light. This edict from on-high amounts to an official whitewash of the real history of Islamic world and its relations with the Judeo-Christian civilization.

Likewise, military personnel who are not one-hundred percent "on board" with the pro-feminist and pro-homosexual agenda of the White House and its advisors are being shown the door in record numbers. The case of U.S. Air Force Senior Master Sergeant Phillip Monk illustrates the ideological fanaticism now found in the "new" armed forces. Despite his reluctance to do so, Monk was ordered by his commanding officer, a lesbian, to go on record with his views about homosexuality. A practicing Christian, Monk replied that he was against it - and was then relieved of his duties and censured by his command.

Not only are U.S. military personnel being indoctrinated to hold favorable but historically-inaccurate views of Islam, they are being taught that traditional American and Judeo-Christian values have no place in the military. Indeed, they are being taught that these values are those of the enemy. Military chaplains report that they are being pressured - in some cases, against their religious vows - to perform homosexual marriages; other personnel report that crosses have been ordered removed from chapels located on bases in Afghanistan. It has come to light that certain administration officials want proselytizing by Christians outlawed within the ranks, but no such prohibition has been put forth for Islamic initiatives of the same kind.

If Obama's new military isn't only anti-Christian, it is atheist. Because of the objections of a single atheist at that institution, cadets graduating from the U.S. Air Force Academy are now sworn-in as officers using an oath which contains no reference to God. On similar lines, an Air Force officer was told to remove a Bible from his desk for fear that it would "offend" someone.

Team Obama is relentlessly purging the U.S. military of individuals who do not share its ideological worldview, but that is not all; it is also removing high-ranking officers who have knowledge of an incriminating nature concerning the fiasco at Benghazi, or who have made statements critical of the administration's handling of the incident - which led to the deaths of four Americans.

U.S. Army General Carter Ham, who commanded U.S. African Command when the consulate was attacked, was summarily-relieved of his post and forced to retire in April, 2013, after making remarks critical of the State Department's decision not to send available reinforcements to rescue the besieged embassy. Likewise, Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette - the former commander of Carrier Strike Group Three (CSG-3, U.S.S. John C. Stennis) - was relieved of his post after contending that aircraft from his strike group could have made it to the scene in Tripoli in time to aid/rescue the trapped personnel. Officially, Gaouette was forcibly-retired for making "racially-insensitive remarks" and public use of profanity; the real reason he was forced out was for daring to contradict administration propaganda about Benghazi.1

There are many other examples of equally-disturbing - if not alarming - behavior on the part of administration officials. This author is acquainted with numerous veterans of the U.S. military, as well as a number of personnel presently on active/reserve duty. They independently corroborate the substance of these findings.

Former Congressman (R-FLA) and retired U.S. Army lieutenant colonel Allen West has called for a Congressional investigation, noting that almost two hundred high-ranking officers have been dismissed from the military during Obama's administration. Such a high number of dismissals in so short a period of time is virtually unprecedented, West notes.

A number of high-ranking former army officers have gone on record in agreement with West, including Major General Paul Vallely, Lieutenant General William G. Boykin (one of the founders of Delta Force, the U.S. Army's elite counter-terrorist unit), and Medal of Honor recipient Major General Patrick H. Brady. "'There is no doubt he [Obama] is intent on emasculating the military and will fire anyone who disagrees with him' over such issues as ‘homosexuals, women in foxholes, the Obama sequester...'" Brady commented to World Net Daily investigative reporter F. Michael Maloof. Commenting for the same story, retired U.S. Navy Captain Joseph John stated that the "bigger picture" is that "the U.S. Armed Forces have been under relentless attack by the occupant of the Oval Office for five years." 2

Like the Soviet military prior to the Second World War, the present-day United States military is being gutted in the name of ideology. It is also being hollowed-out by corruption, political and interest-group patronage and leftist social experimentation. Finally, the upper ranks are being purged for reasons of political expediency and to allow the regime to cover its tracks concerning the Benghazi debacle.

The Founding Fathers greatly-feared large standing armies; James Madison spoke of them in the following terms, "A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home."

By tradition and legal precedent, the U.S. armed forces are supposed to remain ideologically- and politically-neutral. Under Obama, that neutrality has been tossed out the window. The on-going purge of the U.S. armed forces makes abundantly-clear that he means to transform the fundamental nature of the military and in so doing, mold it into a force which will do his bidding, no questions asked. That fact ought to worry all thoughtful Americans. Some of our most-decorated and honored soldiers are doing their best to warn us of the danger - but will we - and the members of Congress - listen?

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© 2013 Peter Farmer

1,2 - http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/allen-west-congress-must-probe-military-firings/

Peter Farmer is a historian and commentator on national security, geopolitics and public policy issues. He has done original research on wartime resistance movements in WWII Europe, and has delivered seminars on such subjects as political violence and terrorism, the evolution of conflict, combat medicine, and related subjects. Mr. Farmer is also a scientist and a medic.

Read more: Family Security Matters http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/the-great-purge#ixzz2kSXQcbyQ Under Creative Commons License: Attribution


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bhodod; cicobama; correctness; military; militarypurge; obama; purge; usmilitary

1 posted on 11/12/2013 11:01:56 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins
Ravi's Visit to Guantanamo Bay Naval Base
2 posted on 11/12/2013 11:05:37 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: xzins
People are afraid to compare Barky to Stalin for several reasons, not the least of which being that quite a few think that the clinton body count was just the beginning for this muzlim fraud.

If you disagree with him in any way shape or form you are a disloyal, evil Tea Partier, a "white hispanic", or a Republican or conservative.

And a racist, of course.

3 posted on 11/12/2013 11:08:57 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: xzins

Our SEALs need to avoid getting on helicopters or going to gun ranges. I still want more details on Chris Kyle’s killer.


4 posted on 11/12/2013 11:10:36 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: xzins
So began the purge of the senior officer corps of the Soviet army and navy. By the time the process ended in 1939 - with war on the horizon - the military had been decimated. Three of the five Marshalls of the Soviet Army - including Tukhachevsky himself - were executed...

I do not see U.S. generals being put through show trials and subsequently shot in the back of the neck. Political interference with military leadership - including shuffling of command staff - is going to be normal in any nation where civilian control of the military is the standard. Although that does cause readiness problems and make the transient ideology of any current White House administration a thorn in the side of the professional officer corps, it's still preferential to an arrangement such as Turkey's.
5 posted on 11/12/2013 11:12:56 AM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Thank you for the link.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 11:13:44 AM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: xzins
I haven't been able to find any real evidence for a purge, but I'm still looking, so it may be out there.

Rear Admiral Charles M. Gaouette - the former commander of Carrier Strike Group Three (CSG-3, U.S.S. John C. Stennis) - was relieved of his post after contending that aircraft from his strike group could have made it to the scene in Tripoli in time to aid/rescue the trapped personnel. Officially, Gaouette was forcibly-retired for making "racially-insensitive remarks" and public use of profanity; the real reason he was forced out was for daring to contradict administration propaganda about Benghazi.1

This little fairy tale keeps getting told with every one of these accounts. It is demonstrably untrue, as the Admiral and his carrier task group were in the Arabian Sea supporting operations in Afghanistan when the attack on Benghazi ocurred. So, he probably was relieved following a pissing contest with the skipper of his flagship as has been reported elsewhere. This one is so easy to bebunk that I am chalking everything else up as nonsense until actual facts emerge. These stories are certainly suffering from a facts shortage.

7 posted on 11/12/2013 11:15:28 AM PST by centurion316
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To: xzins

I knew we were in trouble when the memorandum came down saying it wasn’t fair to evaluate Soldiers based on their performance in combat. That’s like saying you should evaluate a Major League Baseball player based on his penmanship instead of his batting average.


8 posted on 11/12/2013 11:18:38 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: MHGinTN

Most welcome MHGinTN.


9 posted on 11/12/2013 11:23:02 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: centurion316

This article puts a number on it and seems a lot more comprehensive.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/

“Boykin referred to recent reports that Obama has purged some 197 officers in the past five years.”


10 posted on 11/12/2013 11:29:26 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: xzins
Under Obama, that neutrality has been tossed out the window.

Typical Republicans would respond by being even more "neutral." Wrong. The response from a new administration should be to fire every single officer who was involved in the purge.

11 posted on 11/12/2013 11:37:35 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Rockitz

Have you tried to discover who those 197 people might be. That turns out to be very hard to do. Approximately 157 of them turn out to be Navy Lt. Commanders who are being released because of a reduction of Navy strength. A number of the others are mid grade officers who committed some infraction or place their ships in ad hoc dry dock by driving them onto reefs. Boiling it down, you can actually come up with the names of 9 general/flag officers who were sacked, mostly for personal conduct issues.

See my comment, still standing by it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3088808/posts


12 posted on 11/12/2013 11:39:38 AM PST by centurion316
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The last verses from Road to Moscow (1974) by Al Stewart

I’m coming home, I’m coming home, now you can taste it in the wind, the war is over
And I listen to the clicking of the train-wheels as we roll across the border
And now they ask me of the time that I was caught behind their lines and taken prisoner
“They only held me for a day, a lucky break,” I say they turn and listen closer
I’ll never know, I’ll never know why I was taken from the line and all the others
To board a special train and journey deep into the heart of holy Russia
And it’s cold and damp in the transit camp, and the air is still and sullen
And the pale sun of October whispers the snow will soon be coming
And I wonder when I’ll be home again and the morning answers “Never”
And the evening sighs, and the steely Russian skies go on forever

From a comment about the meaning of the song:

Follows pretty much a literal history filled with all manner of specifics, but all of it from the Soviet perspective, particularly how those Red Army troops fortunate enough, or so they thought, to survive being taken prisoner by the Germans or even to escape the captivity of the Germans, only to discover that Stalin’s (Beria’s that is) people rounded them up and imprisoned or killed nearly all of them. Stalin’s secret police, what we think of as the KGB but I think it was still the NKVD at that time, was run by a particularly vicious henchman by the name of Lavrenti Beria. After Stalin died, one the very first things to happen under Kruschev was to have Beria shot. No one was safe as long as that psycho was still in existence and it is ironic that he was shot in the basement of the Lubyanka prison - right where he so often enjoyed dispensing the very same form of “justice” personally.

Here’s all the lyrics:

http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/140258/


13 posted on 11/12/2013 11:40:27 AM PST by Portcall24
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To: xzins

General James Mattoon Scott: Where are you now that we need you?


14 posted on 11/12/2013 11:44:28 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: xzins

Glanz reviewed Soviet Archives. They are more complete than comparable German archives: Soviets used dual reporting chains provide reports of each action passed both up the command channels and up the Commisar channels.

His numbers:
14.5 million military deaths
35 million nonmilitary deaths.

11 million military deaths took place before Stalingrad.

Over a million 2nd Lieutenants. Who gets to be a 2nd Lieutenant? A bright young man with promise and some showing of responsibility.

Russia paid a high price for Stalin’s cooperation with Hitler.


15 posted on 11/12/2013 11:51:24 AM PST by donmeaker
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To: Rockitz

0bama is replacing and has replaced the commanders of our nuclear submarines with those who will not return fire.

Remember, 0bama specifically said that a nuclear weapon could go off here and would not be avenged. I am certain there have been attempts to put him at his word.


16 posted on 11/12/2013 12:26:00 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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Let me also thank the 1000s of those who are fighting FOR this country and its greatness. In difficult and dangerous, often life-threatening situations on and off the battlefield, I send thanks.

Here’s hoping business is VERY, VERY good all week.

Thank you for our safety over the weekend.


17 posted on 11/12/2013 12:30:54 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: centurion316; Old Sarge

I have not, but am thankful for your and OldSarge’s thoughtful posts on this issue. Are there any numbers under recent GOP administrations with which to compare Obama? Were there documented dismissals under GWB where there were public differences between military officers and the administration? Such information would help put this possibly exaggerated purge concern to bed. Thanks.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 12:58:26 PM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: centurion316

Please do not allow facts to get in the way of a good conspiracy.

We are going through a draw down. Those folks who were “marginal” are being mothballed. This is happening all the way down the charts.

Are they are “justified?” I don’t have enough information.

But agree with you. These folks are not getting whacked because of “small” things.


19 posted on 11/12/2013 1:10:23 PM PST by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: combat_boots

“0bama is replacing and has replaced the commanders of our nuclear submarines with those who will not return fire.”


Has anyone got a link for this stuff. I keep seeing it posted on web sites, but there isn’t a link on any of them.

I would love to see where this is happening, because I’ve asked my senior officer friends and none of them have any idea what I am talking about.


20 posted on 11/12/2013 1:12:07 PM PST by Vermont Lt ( 1-800-318-2596, Mr President.)
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To: Rockitz

I don’t have any numbers from previous administrations, but I do know that the military currently has something over 900 serving generals and admirals. The 9 sacked so far this year is about 1%. So, at that rate, in another 99 years EVERY SINGLE general and admiral currently on active duty will have been sacked. If that’s not a purge, I don’t know what is.


21 posted on 11/12/2013 1:27:49 PM PST by centurion316
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To: xzins

I get emails from Military.com with various articles on issues. Todays was the big speech by the pig SecDEF calling for a reduction in pay for all military and cuts in everything else. Everyone else is suffering, thus those putting their lives on the line and those who have already paid an emotion and physical price of service should share in the suffering, which we are already suffering, and accept cuts in everything else like the deadbeats. Of course the deadbeats and the illegals made legal will get raises for their votes. Since the active duty military and retired military communities are tiny in comparison to those above, we are the ones to get the Big Green Winnie.


22 posted on 11/12/2013 1:58:42 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: xzins
[Art.] Obama is not Stalin ...

How can you tell?

Not on policy grounds.

23 posted on 11/12/2013 6:22:52 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: xzins

mark


24 posted on 11/12/2013 6:24:38 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul the usual suspects!)
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To: Portcall24
Lavrenti Beria, in the telling I saw on TV years ago, was shot in a garden of the Kremlin, just outside the room where the Politburo was meeting. Khrushchev was the ringleader, and Georgi Malenkov was the triggerman.
25 posted on 11/12/2013 6:28:43 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: centurion316
This one is so easy to bebunk that I am chalking everything else up as nonsense until actual facts emerge. These stories are certainly suffering from a facts shortage.

How many first-person accounts will you be requiring before you believe anything?

Or will you serially mark them all down to "disgruntled employees"?

26 posted on 11/12/2013 6:35:09 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Rockitz; centurion316
Bump. Call for more narrative.

The plural of "anecdote" is "data".

27 posted on 11/12/2013 6:36:28 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: centurion316

Gaouette’s relief was unusual and based on the complaint of a man he’d dressed down a bit for his lack of skill handling the aircraft carrier. The poor driving skills were testified to by everyone on the bridge, apparently, but Gaouette was the one who ended up in trouble.

And saying “we could have helped” in Benghazi is not necessarily a statement that “we SHOULD have had that mission.”

It is not unlikely that a commander, in disbelief at the amount of time that rescue operation could have had in Benghazi, might have sarcastically said that ~considering how much time there was~ WE could have pulled off that rescue mission.”

It would be a bit like so many data firms have been saying about the ObamaCare roll out: “Given 3 years, we could have pulled that off for a whole lot less than half a billion dollars.”

I’m not saying that’s what went down with Gaoette, but it would have been a reasonable sarcastic comment. Being in the Arabian Sea would have been no obstacle to such a statement. With a 2100 mile range and a 1000 mph speed, and the aid of refuelers, a Super Hornet could have been there in a reasonable amount of time....3-4 hours if at the time they were on the west side of the Arabian sea, double that if on the east.


28 posted on 11/12/2013 7:04:32 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

Obama is a lunatic. He is destroying the country. But, there is no purge. Unfortunately, the senior military leadership of the country is standing by and enabling the mischief that Obama and his minions are visiting upon this nation.


29 posted on 11/12/2013 7:10:07 PM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316
“They are purging everyone, and if you want to keep your job, just keep your mouth shut,” one source told WND Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/10/top-generals-obama-is-purging-the-military/#OpiFvO0s2WBHqgMY.99

Now, there is a conundrum. Silencing opposition by means of threats is an age old method that has gotten results through history. That doesn't mean a few don't speak up and lose their positions.

Is that still a purge if many are silenced but only a small percentage are fired? Or is there a different word that should be used?

30 posted on 11/12/2013 7:19:04 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

All are being silenced, none are being fired. Not a single one, they are all toeing the line. Those being fired have nothing to do with politics, they have run afoul of their own personal foibles: zippers, the bottle, ethics, money. The usual bane of human existence.


31 posted on 11/12/2013 7:23:54 PM PST by centurion316
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To: xzins
Bttt.

5.56mm

32 posted on 11/12/2013 7:31:22 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: centurion316

Those normal foibles are the cause in some cases, but there are others that are not so obviously rooted in some moral error on the part of the officer in question. And, of course, there is always the subterfuge that can be employed by misdirection: fire for one reason when the real reason goes unmentioned.


33 posted on 11/12/2013 7:33:13 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
"Gaouette’s relief was unusual and based on the complaint of a man he’d dressed down a bit for his lack of skill handling the aircraft carrier. The poor driving skills were testified to by everyone on the bridge, apparently, but Gaouette was the one who ended up in trouble."

Interestingly enough, at the end of WW II my dad was in the Navy for a couple years as a Yeoman 1st class (clerk/typist). He was a farmer before he got in, yet his ability to drive a straight line elevated him to pilot of his ship. It's pretty important for farmers to plow a straight row relative to a point on the horizon and not everyone has that skill.

34 posted on 11/13/2013 8:10:50 AM PST by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: centurion316

Your assessment is incorrect. The old guard IS being replaced by 0bots.

That is all I’ll say.


35 posted on 11/13/2013 2:29:27 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: xzins

Planes were on Sigonella’s tarmacs ready to roll. I don’t know about Rota’s.

AND PEOPLE WERE IN BENGHAZI.


36 posted on 11/13/2013 2:31:09 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

The Old Guard is not being replaced, they are long gone. The current crop of Senior Leaders are more than happy to embrace and advance the Obama social, political, and military agenda. There is no need for a purge.


37 posted on 11/13/2013 6:04:58 PM PST by centurion316
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To: centurion316

You and I disagree on this. Completely. The Old Guard is still in pockets but is/has been replaced. The fights are incredible.


38 posted on 11/13/2013 6:27:42 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: combat_boots

Agreed. We were discussing Gaouette’s supposed statement that he could have had planes to Benghazi and that being the basis of his firing.

It’s possible that Gaouette was being sarcastic about the amount of time available before our Benghazi Seals were murdered.


39 posted on 11/13/2013 7:37:12 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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