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Policy keeping girls off boys' wrestling team prevents 'undesired contact of sensual body parts,'
PennLive.com ^ | November 12, 2013 | John Beauge

Posted on 11/12/2013 1:06:25 PM PST by ConservativeInPA

Full Title: Policy keeping girls off boys' wrestling team prevents 'undesired contact of sensual body parts,' says Line Mountain High School

WILLIAMSPORT — The prospect of co-ed wrestling presents dilemmas, such as how an adult male coach demonstrates techniques on a middle school-aged female, the Line Mountain School District claims.

That is one of the arguments the Northumberland County school district makes in urging U.S. Middle District Judge Matthew W. Brann not to make permanent the order he issued Oct. 31 that allowed a seventh-grade girl identified only as A.B. to sign up for the middle school wrestling team.

The district has a policy that prohibits boy and girls from being on the same team in a contact sport.

Due to the continual close contact involved in wrestling, the sport warrants a separation between male and females, especially when the individuals reach the age of puberty, the district states in a brief filed with the court.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
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I am willing to bet that A.B.'s parents are very popular in the community.
1 posted on 11/12/2013 1:06:25 PM PST by ConservativeInPA
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To: ConservativeInPA

Common Sense Ping.

(actually this ruins wrestling for boys, as the most common concerns they express are 1) I’ll be embarrassed if I end up touching her THERE, or 2) She’s a girl, I’m afraid I might hurt her)


2 posted on 11/12/2013 1:08:25 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ConservativeInPA
Brian Beattie badly needs to have the snot knocked out of him.

You're failing your daughter big time, dude.

3 posted on 11/12/2013 1:08:49 PM PST by skeeter
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To: ConservativeInPA

What ever happened to common sense in this country? Why do we have to go through the time and expense to litigate every stupid whim?


4 posted on 11/12/2013 1:09:56 PM PST by pgkdan
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Wrestling is a good sport -- but myself personally wouldn't want to compete and have to touch anybody in those regions.
5 posted on 11/12/2013 1:09:58 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement o"Bustid"f fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
as the most common concerns they express are 1) I’ll be embarrassed if I end up touching her THERE, or 2) She’s a girl, I’m afraid I might hurt her)

And the most common concern they DON'T express is: She's a girl, I'm afraid I might lose to her. :)
6 posted on 11/12/2013 1:11:00 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: ConservativeInPA

It is infuriating that some scumbag judge’s default position is to force a school to facilitate innapropriate teenage contact. What is even more infuriating is that he is probably the rule not the exception.


7 posted on 11/12/2013 1:16:13 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: ConservativeInPA
How would a male coach demonstrate a T-Bar on a 14 year old female wrestler?

But then, why would he need to?

That said, if I were wrestling said female, I might be tempted to encourage her to put me in a Chicken Wing Half Nelson pin. The resulting tangle is painful on the arms but the view is spectacular.

8 posted on 11/12/2013 1:18:11 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Destroy patriotism & government will fall. Tamper with love of country & you'll have revolution)
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To: BenLurkin
but myself personally wouldn't want to compete and have to touch anybody in those regions.

Actually, I think the big elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about (I've been listening to local talk radio on this topic for the past hour) is a boy would have no problem touching a girl in those 'regions', but it is awful embarrassing to him for what pops up in his singlet and having to walk off the mat in front the team, family and the crowd.

9 posted on 11/12/2013 1:18:32 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - shall not be questioned)
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To: mmichaels1970

Even if they let the girl wrestle guys a couple weight classes down from her, I don’t think that would be a big concern.


10 posted on 11/12/2013 1:20:53 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Buckeye McFrog

All that has to be done is to have one of the guys on the team spar with her and put a legal wrestling move on her that hurts her enough that she will not want to pursue it ever again.


11 posted on 11/12/2013 1:23:40 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: mmichaels1970

When I was a kid two girls wanted to play in our boys hockey league. They were actually pretty good. A lot less concerns because it was much less of a contact sport at that level (and one of them was actually a goaltender). Us guys weren’t freaking out about them, which I’m sure we would have if we were wrestling.

The other one grew up to be a really nice looking woman.


12 posted on 11/12/2013 1:25:12 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ConservativeInPA

Would that apply to keeping gays off bouts teams as well?


13 posted on 11/12/2013 1:25:52 PM PST by AU72
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To: mmichaels1970

actually, it would do the young boys GOOD to have to wrestle the girls,

the boys might learn how to survive the girls better when they all grow up....

...” “For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.”

Rudyard Kipling
:)
:)


14 posted on 11/12/2013 1:30:05 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“(actually this ruins wrestling for boys, as the most common concerns they express are 1) I’ll be embarrassed if I end up touching her THERE, or 2) She’s a girl, I’m afraid I might hurt her)”

Or 3) what happens if I lose to her?


15 posted on 11/12/2013 1:31:26 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Senator Cruz basically made the Democrats fight for a whole bunch of things that they already had.")
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To: ConservativeInPA
If the contact is too "sensual" to be between males and females, then it is definitely too "sensual" for contact between two boys.

The USA definitely does not need any more jock faggots.

16 posted on 11/12/2013 1:31:36 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: ConservativeInPA

I’m guessing the ACLU will be all over this, since it sounds like a fine way to advance the pedophile agenda. Allowing adult men to touch girls bodies = camel’s nose under the tent?


17 posted on 11/12/2013 1:35:40 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ConservativeInPA

There has always been coed wrestling. It doesn’t need sanctioning.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 1:36:42 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: meadsjn
If the contact is too "sensual" to be between males and females, then it is definitely too "sensual" for contact between two boys.

That's what I was thinking. If the kids are finding anything about wrestling "sensual" then they're not doing it right.

19 posted on 11/12/2013 1:42:54 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Brian and Angie Beattie are trolling for a way to make some money suing the school district.

They sue if the rule stands and the daughter can’t wrestle with the boys.
They sue if she wrestls and a boy accidentally touches her.
They sue if she get injured.
They sue if she feels discriminated against.
They sue if the boys are too big, too strong or too male.
The sue if the temperature is too high, too low, just right.


20 posted on 11/12/2013 1:43:40 PM PST by Iron Munro (When a killer screams 'Allahu Akbar' you don't need to be mystified about a motive.)
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To: faithhopecharity

Hey, make it “fair” - let the boys wrestle on the girls wrestling team. We’ll see if the tune changes then.


21 posted on 11/12/2013 1:44:49 PM PST by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I’ll be embarrassed if I end up touching her THERE, or 2) She’s a girl, I’m afraid I might hurt her)

Or, I'll be even more embarrassed if she kicks my ass.

22 posted on 11/12/2013 1:45:08 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: ConservativeInPA

We went through this already...YEARS AGO!!


23 posted on 11/12/2013 1:46:03 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Boogieman
Even if they let the girl wrestle guys a couple weight classes down from her, I don’t think that would be a big concern.

In 7th-8th grade, you might be surprised. I wrestled for 13 years and saw a couple girls that won their fair share of matches. I never had to wrestle one myself, but I knew a couple that we'd run into at open tournaments throughout the year.

That said, I don't remember hearing about either of those girls continuing on in high school.
24 posted on 11/12/2013 1:47:40 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: ConservativeInPA
Don't Touch Me There
25 posted on 11/12/2013 1:47:55 PM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Iron Munro
Brian and Angie Beattie are trolling for a way to make some money suing the school district.
They sue if the rule stands and the daughter can’t wrestle with the boys.
They sue if she wrestls and a boy accidentally touches her.
They sue if she get injured.
They sue if she feels discriminated against.
They sue if the boys are too big, too strong or too male.
The sue if the temperature is too high, too low, just right.

Your logic is spot on!

You DO get the gist of all this, don't you. SUE.
There are undoubtedly PLENTY of lawyers lined up for this AGAIN. We went through this already DECADES ago!

The daughter is a moron. But, she is the fruit of her parents: two morons breeding = SUPERmoron!!! Quick, get her a cape!!

26 posted on 11/12/2013 1:49:15 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Boogieman; Jack Hydrazine

Man, are you guys out of touch.

I’ve got an 11 year old boy that plays football, hockey and wrestles. Every one of his teams has or has had girls on them.

No standout girls in football but one of the leading scorers on his hockey team is a girl. There are four girls on his team of 16.

In wrestling, there are three girls on the squad. Two are not good at all but have continued to wrestle for three years. A new girl on the squad last year won the City Tournament and went to State. She’s only 10 but won several matches at State.

She’ll probably win State this year as she has gone to every clinic and camp the parents could send her to.

The only problem they’ve encountered has been a-hole dads that say unbelievably terrible things to them at matches.


27 posted on 11/12/2013 1:51:28 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: ConservativeInPA
But they can still use each other's bathrooms if they self-identify as the other sex?

-PJ

28 posted on 11/12/2013 1:52:01 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

What would Andy Kaufman, Inter-Gender Wrestling Champion, have to say about this??


29 posted on 11/12/2013 1:52:41 PM PST by Keli Kilohana (Editor, ZARR CHASM CHRONICAL [sic], Sore, WV)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
The resulting tangle is painful on the arms but the view is spectacular.

LOL! You are a very, very naughty boy!

30 posted on 11/12/2013 1:53:39 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman
Indeed. Guilty as charged.
And you were a wrestler. [Hee hee.]
31 posted on 11/12/2013 1:54:49 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Destroy patriotism & government will fall. Tamper with love of country & you'll have revolution)
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To: BenLurkin
but myself personally wouldn't want to compete and have to touch anybody in those regions.

At that age, if I had the opportunity to rassle women and touch their parts, I'd join the rasslin team in a heartbeat.........

32 posted on 11/12/2013 1:54:52 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I don't call "911", in my house, I AM '911"....)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

Having girls compete with boys is part of the social problems we are having now. This is one of the worst things we have done up to our children up to this point.

Girls should compete with girls and boys should only compete with boys.


33 posted on 11/12/2013 1:55:07 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: TigersEye
That's what I was thinking. If the kids are finding anything about wrestling "sensual" then they're not doing it right.

I agree. For the most part, the focus and dedication that most wrestlers exude would lean more towards them being "all business" when it came to a match.

I'm not saying this would occur 100% of the time, but other than worrying about getting your butt kicked by a girl, I think both kids would tend to focus on the match at hand.

I grew up wrestling in Northeast Ohio. Wrestling is huge here. It may be a little less focused in other states, but in Ohio, kids who want to wrestle are a very special breed.
34 posted on 11/12/2013 1:55:52 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: ConservativeInPA

On the farm my younger sister by 2 years challenged me to a wrestling match when I was 17- She beat the crap out of me and I had to buy her things til she was 18 so she wouldn`t blab it all over.


35 posted on 11/12/2013 1:58:15 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.)))
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To: ConservativeInPA

We should just go ahead and delete this thread before Laz gets himself banned!


36 posted on 11/12/2013 2:00:19 PM PST by CodeToad (When ignorance rules a person's decision they are resorting to superstition.)
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To: Bartholomew Roberts
A new girl on the squad last year won the City Tournament and went to State. She’s only 10 but won several matches at State.

Awesome! lol. Sounds like she'd be very fun to watch.
37 posted on 11/12/2013 2:02:19 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: bunkerhill7

Sounds like a tomboy to me


38 posted on 11/12/2013 2:03:09 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: bunkerhill7
She beat the crap out of me and I had to buy her things til she was 18 so she wouldn`t blab it all over.

You are a good man for admitting it!
39 posted on 11/12/2013 2:03:56 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

did she win any by default with boys not wanting to wrestle her?


40 posted on 11/12/2013 2:04:21 PM PST by GeronL
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To: ConservativeInPA

It’s gonna be fun when the first ‘transgendered’ whatever joins the team.


41 posted on 11/12/2013 2:04:37 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I’m not even sure girls should rassle at all on a varsity level. It’s out of character.


42 posted on 11/12/2013 2:04:49 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
(actually this ruins wrestling for boys, as the most common concerns they express are 1) I’ll be embarrassed if I end up touching her THERE, or 2) She’s a girl, I’m afraid I might hurt her)

and (3): her proven-to-be-litigious may sue the male wrestlers for sexual assault or harassment if they touch a boob, and they will be put on the sexual predator watch list and have their futures ruined.

43 posted on 11/12/2013 2:07:02 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I’m not even sure girls should rassle at all on a varsity level. It’s out of character.

Yabut, what if they're a bunch of mean-looking, short-cropped, hatchet-faced, bone-crushing lesbians?

44 posted on 11/12/2013 2:08:48 PM PST by ROCKLOBSTER ("The government" is nothing but a RAT jobs program)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Well maybe we could have tomboy clubs... and tomboys don’t have to turn out lez.


45 posted on 11/12/2013 2:11:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I couldn’t disagree more.

The camaraderie between boys and girls make them like brother and sister. They really bond quite well as buddies and gain mutual respect.

By the time they get to high school they don’t even date each other but have to get dates from other schools because it feels too “close” to date your hockey team member!

So where do you draw the line? Swimming? Chess? Soccer? Field Hockey?

You attitude is very Taliban to me.


46 posted on 11/12/2013 2:11:37 PM PST by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As long as we keep emasculating the young men and encouraging young women to be one of the guys this should do absolute wonders for our country!


47 posted on 11/12/2013 2:12:57 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I remember when I had sensual body parts.


48 posted on 11/12/2013 2:13:12 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: mmichaels1970

If you are 14 - 15 years old & wrestle a girl of the same age mother nature will take over despite your dedication to the purity of the sport. That being said I would have loved to participate.


49 posted on 11/12/2013 2:13:23 PM PST by certrtwngnut (')
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’m guessing you’renot involved with youth wrestling. Both of my boys wrestle and there are girls on the team. The girls practice with the boys and girls (who you practice with depends on weight class and skill level), the coaches demonstrate using the girls (whichever wrestler just happens to be closest when a demonstration is needed) and the girls wrestle boys in tournaments... and win. Not because the boys don’t want to touch them or hurt them (believe me, lay off on one of our girls and she’ll make you regret it), but because they are well trained, well conditioned and well coached. They also know how to win with grace and lose with dignity. Get over it. No big deal unless some “adult†makes it a big deal.


50 posted on 11/12/2013 2:13:31 PM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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