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Military drones grounded in Central New York following crash in Lake Ontario
Post Standard, Syracuse NY ^ | 11/12/13 | By Tim Knauss

Posted on 11/12/2013 5:40:06 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

SYRACUSE, N.Y. - Officials at the 174th Attack Wing suspended all Reaper drone flights in Central New York Tuesday after one of the unmanned aircraft crashed into Lake Ontario about 12 miles from the eastern shore during a routine training flight.

A Coast Guard helicopter and search vessel were unable to recover the $4 million drone, which crashed about 1 p.m. Tuesday, and were forced to call off the search late in the afternoon because of bad weather, said Col. Greg Semmel, commander of the 174th Attack Wing of the Air National Guard.

Semmel said he did not know what caused the accident. A safety investigation board appointed by Air Force commanders based in Langley, Va., will investigate the incident. Semmel estimated the investigation could take a month or so to complete.

No decision has been made yet on when Reaper training flights will resume, Semmel said.

The drone crashed into the lake about 20 miles northeast of the Port of Oswego, and about 12 miles from the eastern shore, Semmel said.

The 174th Attack Wing trains pilots and sensor operators to fly the MQ-9 Reaper, a 36-foot-long drone with a 66-foot wingspan that can be armed with Hellfire missiles or other armaments for combat missions.

The Reaper that crashed Tuesday was unarmed and had been in the air about three hours when it went down in the lake, Semmel said.

When the Reapers are unarmed, the 174th Attack Wing flies them across a wide swath of Upstate New York, from west of Rochester eastward to near Blue Mountain Lake, and from Syracuse north to the Massena area. When the drones carry missiles, they are restricted to military air space in Northern New York, Semmel said.

(Excerpt) Read more at syracuse.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Front Page News; Government; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 174thattackwing; canada; crash; drone; newyork; ontario; syracuse

1 posted on 11/12/2013 5:40:06 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Obama fell asleep at the joystick.


2 posted on 11/12/2013 5:40:58 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
fficials at the 174th Attack Wing suspended all Reaper drone flights in Central New York Tuesday...

Sounds grim to me.

3 posted on 11/12/2013 5:41:55 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

4 posted on 11/12/2013 5:43:07 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Pull!


5 posted on 11/12/2013 5:44:12 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Unarmed? Flying mock attacks on 0bama’s enemies waiting for him to give the kill order?


6 posted on 11/12/2013 5:45:51 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Now—Who else is looking for that drone & all the technology it contains???


7 posted on 11/12/2013 5:47:01 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
Now—Who else is looking for that drone & all the technology it contains???

Justin Trudeau?

8 posted on 11/12/2013 5:48:10 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Heh heh.

9 posted on 11/12/2013 5:51:02 PM PST by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: Darksheare

Disclaimer?


10 posted on 11/12/2013 5:54:24 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
Unarmed? Flying mock attacks on 0bama’s enemies waiting for him to give the kill order?

What is your basis for asking?

11 posted on 11/12/2013 5:55:09 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: null and void

Not my fault?


12 posted on 11/12/2013 6:02:10 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Are there any Chinese subs in Lake Ontario???


13 posted on 11/12/2013 6:03:13 PM PST by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I guess this explains the near-constant presence of protestors on the road just outside the main entrance to the 174th TFW.

Weather today turned ugly here this afternoon, with a mix of snow, sleet, and freezing rain.


14 posted on 11/12/2013 6:03:17 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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15 posted on 11/12/2013 6:32:49 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“Semmel said he did not know what caused the accident.”

.308 cal. hail?


16 posted on 11/12/2013 7:14:52 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Behind Liberal Lines.
Officials at the 174th Attack Wing suspended all Reaper drone flights in Central New York Tuesday after one of the unmanned aircraft crashed into Lake Ontario about 12 miles from the eastern shore during a routine training flight.
Operation "Divin' Duck" has been a complete success.


17 posted on 11/12/2013 7:47:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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SNL more cowbell skit

18 posted on 11/12/2013 7:49:37 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Headline is funny. “Military drones grounded ... after crash”.

Unless the drone crashed into a cloud, it hit the “ground”, i.e. was “grounded”.

Ain’t the English language great to play with?


19 posted on 11/12/2013 11:30:33 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Viennacon
Obama fell asleep at the joystick.

Or...the operator said, "Watch this Immelmann maneuver.."

20 posted on 11/13/2013 3:43:19 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Half Vast Conspiracy
What is your basis for asking?

Just speculation, but you have to ask why they are practicing drone missions over urban and populated areas in the east when they could/should be practicing missions over areas out west that are more geographically similar to the areas where our enemies reside.

21 posted on 11/13/2013 6:27:44 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Viennacon
Obama fell asleep at the joystick.

Evil NEVER rests.

22 posted on 11/13/2013 6:28:37 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

“training flights”

Right.


23 posted on 11/13/2013 2:27:50 PM PST by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
...but you have to ask why they are practicing drone missions over urban and populated areas in the east when they could/should be practicing missions over areas out west that are more geographically similar to the areas where our enemies reside.

Flying is flying. This is a Air National Guard unit. No doubt the NY Congressional delegation insisted on flying in their state.

24 posted on 11/13/2013 3:50:58 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Proportionally, Ft. Hood is to Ft. Worth as Washington Navy Yard is to Arlington, VA.)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

So many drones out west that it got crowded - had to send some east.


25 posted on 11/13/2013 4:44:02 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
...similar to the areas where our enemies reside.

Oh?

I thought they resided in highly populated areas; getting lost in the crowds.

26 posted on 11/13/2013 5:52:50 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
So, by your comments I take it that you approve of the 0bama regime running simulated drone strikes on Americans and American cities?

I'll admit I haven't been up north in several years, but I don't think the North and Northeast (with the possible exception of Detroit) resemble Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or Yemen very much.

27 posted on 11/14/2013 5:04:13 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty
I thought they resided in highly populated areas; getting lost in the crowds.

So, by your comments I take it that you approve of the 0bama regime running simulated drone strikes on Americans and American cities?

HUH???

That, to me, seems to be quite a stretch.

28 posted on 11/14/2013 5:26:52 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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