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State Depít Cites Russia, But Wonít Comment on S. Arabiaís Death Penalty for Gays
CNS News ^ | 11/12/2013 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 11/12/2013 6:42:52 PM PST by markomalley

Although the U.S. State Department recently singled out Russia by name to criticize its law prohibiting homosexual propaganda aimed at youth, the same State Department refused to comment on Saudi Arabia where homosexual conduct is punishable by death.

On Oct. 24, Uzra Zeya, the acting assistant secretary of the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, spoke at the ILGA-Europe annual conference in Zagrab, Croatia.  ILGA is the International Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans and Intersex Association. In her remarks, Secretary Zeya said that promotion of human rights, including those for LGBT people, is a “foreign policy priority” of the United States.

Zeya praised new hate crimes legislation in Europe and then said, “But the United States remains extremely concerned about negative trends in a number of countries. The anti-gay propaganda law in Russia and the proposed law to strip gay parents of their parental rights are alarming.”

“Laws, even when it is unclear how they will be enforced, are incredibly important,” she said. “They are a statement of a country’s values and they have a teaching effect. Laws that validate discrimination, as we have seen in Russia, can lead to an increase in violence and harassment. This is particularly true when authorities don’t act to protect all of their citizens and when they fail to investigate and prosecute crimes committed by or against particular groups.”

Assistant Secretary Zeya also said, “I’ve singled out Russia but, as you all know, it is not the only place where there were disturbing events in 2013.”

She then went on to talk about some anti-homosexual events in Serbia and “throughout Europe.”  But Zeya said nothing about the anti-gay laws and customs throughout much of the Middle East, even though some of those issues are discussed in the State Department’s reports on human rights by country.

In addition, back on June 19, Secretary Zeya told the gay Washington Blade newspaper, “We’re very concerned by the overall direction in Russia. It is something that we have communicated directly to the Russian government.” Also, in an Oct. 25 blog at State.gov, Zeya wrote, “The Anti-Gay Propaganda law in Russia, for example, has led to an increase in harassment and violence targeting LGBT persons.”

In reference to Assistant Secretary Zeya’s comments about singling out Russia – a country also criticized by President Barack Obama for its anti-gay propaganda law – CNSNews.com sent an e-mail to Zeya’s office and the State Department press office.  The e-mail mentioned the death penalty and flogging punishments in Saudi Arabia and what Secretary Zeya has said about Russia.

The e-mail specifically asked, “Does the U.S. State Department oppose the law in Saudi Arabia that makes same-sex sexual contact punishable by death or flogging?” And, “Like with Russia, has the State Department communicated directly to the Saudi Arabian government its concern over the anti-same-sex law in that country?”  CNSNews.com also asked whether the State Department believes that “Saudi Arabia’s law against same-sex sexual contact increases harassment and violence against LGBT persons?”

Neither Assistant Secretary Zeya nor the State Department press office commented on Saudi Arabia’s anti-homosexual laws and punishments.

Zeya’s press officer, Aaron Jensen, however, did send a general response by e-mail.  He said, “We do not have a comment on specific countries.  However, we can say that: The President has made clear – through his words and actions – that promoting the human rights of LGBT persons is a foreign policy priority for this Administration.”

“The State Department has been systematically engaged on LGBT issues since 2010, when then-Secretary Clinton instructed all Ambassadors to work to advance the human rights of LGBT persons,” said Jensen.

Zeya’s press officer said her office did “not have a comment on specific countries,” even though Zeya had “singled out Russia” back on Oct. 24 and 25, and on June 19.

Further, while neither Zeya not the State Department press office would comment on Saudi Arabia’s rule on the death penalty for homosexuals, the human rights country report on Saudi Arabia relased in 2012 says, “[C]onsensual same-sex sexual conduct is punishable by death or flogging. It is illegal for men ‘to behave like women’ or to wear women’s clothes and vice versa. Due to social conventions and potential persecution, lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender organizations did not operate openly, nor were there gay rights advocacy events of any kind.

"There were reports of official societal discrimination, physical violence, and harassment based on sexual orientation or gender identity in employment, housing, statelessness, access to education, and health care.”


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Russia
KEYWORDS: russia

1 posted on 11/12/2013 6:42:52 PM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I think real reason they not going say jack I think Saudis know that Obama play for the Gay team

Also spotlight of Olympics that bottom line for this sport crazed US President

Since 2014 Olympics going be this February in Russia that other reason


2 posted on 11/12/2013 6:51:56 PM PST by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: markomalley

And Iran not only has a death penalty but actually executes gay men regularly.


3 posted on 11/12/2013 6:52:27 PM PST by tbw2
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To: markomalley
Fridays were their "punishment" day, in public.
I actually had the opportunity to witness a beheading. The crime was murder. I never knew who or why.

Needless to say I skipped THAT day in town.

4 posted on 11/12/2013 6:53:29 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: tbw2
And Iran not only has a death penalty but actually executes gay men regularly.

That won't change anything. Homosexuality is a choice. Some pubescent boys, pre-middle teens and some girls, do choose it.
There is no gay gene. No one knows why there are more male than female homosexuals either.

Sigh. It can't be an easy choice, I assume, but it's made pretty early and the pattern is established throughout life, it seems.

Execution--the Iranians don't mess around. I guess if a guy/gal is a "tutti-frutti" (s)he had BETTER come from an important and/or rich family...or move to the West.

5 posted on 11/12/2013 6:58:57 PM PST by cloudmountain
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“The State Department has been systematically engaged on LGBT issues since 2010”

Isn’t it just heart-warming to know these people are keeping a close eye on the things that really mattered. They were probably watching Glee while the ambassador was being sodomized.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 7:03:50 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: cloudmountain

Is it? I suspect that a lot of it is simple imprinting. Just ask Konrad Lorenz.


7 posted on 11/12/2013 7:12:42 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void
Is it? I suspect that a lot of it is simple imprinting. Just ask Konrad Lorenz.

From the Internet: Lorenz studied instinctive behavior in animals, especially in greylag geese and jackdaws. Working with geese, he rediscovered the principle of imprinting (originally described by Douglas Spalding in the 19th century) in the behavior of nidifugous birds. In later life, his interest shifted to the study of humans in society.
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Hmmm, I wonder if he REALLY thought we were all a bunch of silly geese and perching birds.
ALTHOUGH some guy gal could be the GOOSE that lays the GOLDEN egg!!
Ganders are male. Had to look it up!

8 posted on 11/12/2013 7:28:04 PM PST by cloudmountain
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The important thing is that a newly hatched gosling imprints on the first moving thing it sees as momma.

A child may imprint on the first sexual partner, even if it is a same sex partner.

(and as an aside this may be why waiting until marriage for the first time tends to result in more stable marriages than scores of partners blurring the imprinting before marriage)


9 posted on 11/12/2013 7:44:16 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: cloudmountain

There are some kids who clearly behave like the opposite sex

It’s up to the Parents to straighten them out and not encourage nonsense

These parents that let it happen and encuirage it are doing a great disservice to their kids

A great disservice

Despite operations that can change your parts

If you have one you’re better at learning to desk with it

To me women are just beautiful creatures. I’m sure I would have
Been a lesbian if I was a girl

If you’re a guy and don’t find women attractive. You have serious mental defects and need help

Now of course all women are crazy so that’s a bit of a thing

But how could you think about anything else sex-wise?

Ill never ever understand it


10 posted on 11/12/2013 8:42:29 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the guvmint you deserve)
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To: markomalley

Now that the Ruskies anin’t Commies any more, they just aren’t cool with the media owners.


11 posted on 11/12/2013 9:07:28 PM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: markomalley

In other words: Moslems get a free pass.

Again.

Especially oil-rich Moslems.


12 posted on 11/13/2013 3:01:45 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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