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CNN source: If White House has no solution by Friday, Dems may vote for “Keep Your Plan Act”
Hotair ^ | 11/12/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 11/12/2013 7:01:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Amazing stuff via Mediaite. The “Keep Your Plan Act” is Fred Upton’s bill, which Jay Carney spent a few minutes attacking at today’s press briefing because it would make canceled plans available to all consumers, not just the ones who’d been enrolled in those plans before. That would be a disaster for the insurance industry. Healthy people would flee the new, more expensive plans for the resurrected cheaper ones, leaving no one in the new risk pool except sick people with very expensive treatments. That means either heavy losses for insurers, steep premium hikes next year to make up the difference, or some sort of federal bailout (congrats, red-state Democrats!) — or maybe a little of all three. You’ll have the same problem, though, albeit to a lesser extent, even if Upton’s bill is amended so that it applies only to people who’d been enrolled in a particular plan before it was cancelled. You can’t run a two-tiered healthy/sick insurance system. If the risk pools aren’t merged, replete with higher rates for the former, you can’t pay for the latter.

I understand why the GOP would back Upton’s bill. It’s a slam dunk politically, grinding Obama’s face in the consequences of his lie. This is the Democrats’ mess; Reid and the Senate can/will kill the bill if they like. I can’t understand why House Democrats, aware of the adverse selection problem that’s lurking here — and the political humiliation for the White House — would sign on, unless they’ve already reached a point of such pure terror over the “if you like your plan” backlash that they’re willing to kneecap ObamaCare six weeks out of the gate. Did they … not understand that millions of people were going to face cancellations and higher premiums under the law’s redistributive scheme? Of course they did. Steny Hoyer, number two in the Democratic caucus admitted it on October 29th. Fast forward two weeks and here’s where Hoyer is now:

“I don’t know what I’m gonna do on the Upton bill,” the Maryland Democrat said at a Tuesday briefing with reporters when discussing legislation sponsored by Energy and Commerce Chairman Fred Upton, R-Mich.

Hoyer noted that he was “inclined not to be for the Upton bill at this time,” but he emphasized that he was “not closed to the option,” and would “reserve judgment” until he had seen the legislative text, which is reportedly undergoing some tweaks.

“I agree that people who purchased their policies prior to [the law's enactment date] ought to be able to keep their policies,” he said.

If he agrees that they should be able to keep their policies, why did he vote for ObamaCare? The whole point of the law is that healthy middle-class people shouldn’t be allowed to keep policies that have relatively low premiums. We need to gouge those suckers with higher premiums for new “comprehensive” plans so that we can pay for the preexisting conditions of the sick. It’s like voting for immigration reform and then feigning surprise in five years when the newly “secure” border hasn’t halted illegal immigration. It’s not supposed to do that. That’s something you tell the hoi polloi in order to give Congress enough cover to vote for it.

The vote on Upton’s bill is set for Friday, which, per CNN’s source on the Hill, means the White House has 48 hours or so to come up with its own proposal for letting people keep their plans — adverse selection problem or not — before Democrats head for the lifeboats. Greg Sargent claims that the Democratic leadership is now warning the rank and file that rich liberal donors won’t look kindly at them if they abandon The One on his big “accomplishment.” I’ll leave you with this, just to show that the fear isn’t limited to Dems in red states. After a million cancellations, even DiFi’s nervous:

Feinstein: "I have decided to cosponsor Senator Mary Landrieu’s (D-La.) legislation: Keeping the Affordable Care Act Promise Act."

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; bailout; california; deathpanels; democrats; diannefeinstein; fredupton; jaycarney; keepyourplanact; louisiana; maryland; marylandrieu; michigan; obamacare; obamacarebailout; stenyhoyer; toobig2fail; toobigtofail; zerocare
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Let's say the bill passes... WILL OBAMA SIGN IT?

And if he does not, will there be enough votes in Congress to override his veto?

1 posted on 11/12/2013 7:01:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The troops are ready to mutiny...it’s reaching the “Oh, Boy” stage.


2 posted on 11/12/2013 7:06:16 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So all those people who’ve received cancellation notices (or “transition” notices) will receive notices that they’re back on their old plan?


3 posted on 11/12/2013 7:06:55 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is like trying to call a bullet back.


4 posted on 11/12/2013 7:06:55 PM PST by Gator113 ( Cruz, Palin and Lee speak for me, most everyone else is just noise.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It's Popcorn time!!!


5 posted on 11/12/2013 7:07:18 PM PST by ssaftler (Obama speaking is like the Fat Lady warming up: "Me Me Me Me Meeee")
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To: SeekAndFind

Will the GOP help Obama and the Dems fix it or end it? If a fix takes the political pressure off the Dems for the 2014 elections, why help them? The Reps should use the desire of the Dems for a deal as leverage to make other changes.


6 posted on 11/12/2013 7:07:30 PM PST by kabar
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise

Horses Back In the Barn Act!


7 posted on 11/12/2013 7:07:59 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Keep Your Plan Act”

I don’t know what’s in the bill but I know at this point that is not possible.


8 posted on 11/12/2013 7:08:00 PM PST by DManA
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That's what it is all about, destroy the insurance companies, so that it will be a single payer system.
9 posted on 11/12/2013 7:08:18 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: SeekAndFind; a fool in paradise

Toothpaste Into The Tube Act!


10 posted on 11/12/2013 7:08:31 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Get the popcorn ready, the same Dems who voted FOR Commiecare now want to get their asses as far away from it as possible LOL


11 posted on 11/12/2013 7:08:35 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SkyDancer

That’s exactly the question I have. Somehow I think not. I got my cancellation letter and it tells me my corresponding plan on the exchange will almost double my premium ($371 to $738). Why would they want to keep offering my old plan when I can pay double for a shiny new one?


12 posted on 11/12/2013 7:09:00 PM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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Let's say the bill passes... WILL OBAMA SIGN IT?

The answer is no, he will veto it. But democrats will claim that they "did something" and so they can't be held accountable at election time.

13 posted on 11/12/2013 7:09:28 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Coldwater Creek

Of course that is their idea..Bob Beckel was practically begging today for Single Payer on The Five. I wonder how long that drug addicted fat ass would last on Canadian insurance, I give it a week


14 posted on 11/12/2013 7:09:43 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: SeekAndFind

The Walking Dead reelected their Kenyan boy last year and the DNC “media” beat Americans over the head with it. The 42%ters wanted their ObamaCare. They again got all hot and bothered over the government shutdown and whined about the GOP. They thought Cruz was evil because Ken and Barbie on the nightly news read to them that he was. Shove ObamaCare down their throats. They deserve it. Don’t bail out the Kenyan. Every GOOB needs to vote against this atrocity.


15 posted on 11/12/2013 7:09:58 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Millions are losing their healthcare thanks to ObamaCare! What a country!!!)
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re: So all those people who’ve received cancellation notices (or “transition” notices) will receive notices that they’re back on their old plan?

Yes, If they WANT their plan back (no coercion), that’s how I understand the INTENT of the bill.


16 posted on 11/12/2013 7:10:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Verrry clever! Dig this: the RATS will try to shift the blame on the Stupid Party which is going to vote against this stupid legislation!


17 posted on 11/12/2013 7:10:45 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind

“...some sort of federal bailout “
BINGO!

But it would be hidden in ‘subsidies’ for buyers.
Yeah the dems could win back the House with this.


18 posted on 11/12/2013 7:13:02 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Republicans should beat them to the punch and push legislation that will stop implementation until this law can be studied, and they know exactly what it is going to do. But the Republicans will surely circle the wagons to help their “friends” on the other side of the aisle. Then they can get together and attack the Republican base.


19 posted on 11/12/2013 7:14:24 PM PST by Yogafist
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To: SeekAndFind

Hahahahahhahaha! Guess you should have read it before you passed it.

Where’s that gloating bug eyed Pelosi? Laying low now isn’t she? Where’s the interviews of demented Pelosi?


20 posted on 11/12/2013 7:15:11 PM PST by Ray76
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