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It’s a Trap! ( GOP to save Obama )
http://www.redstate.com ^ | November 13th, 2013 | By: Erick Erickson

Posted on 11/13/2013 10:32:38 AM PST by Para-Ord.45

Republicans are walking into a trap and they don’t even realize it.

They are about to consider, in the House of Representatives, legislation by Congressman Upton that would allow people to keep their insurance plans.

There’s a problem though. It is widely acknowledged that Congressman Upton’s legislation is more messaging than substance. His legislation does not have anything in it that can force insurance companies, in the topsy-turvy world of Obamacare, to keep insurance plans going.

But there is a plan than does. Senator Mary Landrieu has written legislation in the United States Senate that the Democrats love. It mandates insurance companies have to keep people on their present insurance. The GOP is supposedly against mandates and against government forcing private businesses and individuals into contracts they don’t want.

Here’s what is going to happen.

The House, with the help of a good number of Democrats, will pass the Upton plan and send it to the Senate. Harry Reid will substitute the Landrieu plan and send it back to the House. The House will be forced to either vote for the Landrieu plan or be characterized as siding with insurance companies against people.

In one fell swoop, the Democrats will have the GOP on record saving Mary Landrieu’s re-election in Louisiana by casting her as the one who saved Americans’ health care plans, and also getting on record as really being in favor of fixing Obamacare with the use of mandates.

The GOP is walking right into the trap.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Louisiana; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: abortion; california; deathpanels; diannefeinstein; fredupton; louisiana; marylandrieu; michigan; obamacare; zerocare
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To: cripplecreek

21 posted on 11/13/2013 10:54:07 AM PST by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

*sigh*

when all the dust clears the Republicans will get the blame for people losing their current plans.


22 posted on 11/13/2013 10:54:38 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
The GOP should just tell the Dems to fix the mess they created and step away.

In reality there is no "fix," mandated or not. The policies have already been cancelled, the damage already done. The insurers have already re-written their policies to comply with Obamacare. It's too late to do anything else.

23 posted on 11/13/2013 10:55:20 AM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Para-Ord.45
BINGO!

The Dems are trying to ASSOCIATE REPUBLICANS WITH OBAMACARE by luring them into 'fixing' it, which is de facto SUPPORTING IT.

Heads up, Republicans! Leave it be. Don't touch it!

24 posted on 11/13/2013 10:55:30 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Para-Ord.45


25 posted on 11/13/2013 10:55:31 AM PST by swamprebel (a Constitution once changed from Freedom, can never be restored.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

26 posted on 11/13/2013 10:58:12 AM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
Personally, I thing the trap is that any plan to pass "if you like it you can keep it" is now doomed to failure and will only provide Obama with cover. Millions have already lost their coverage. The insurance companies have killed off entire plan structures. Do they think they can force them to go back and recreate plans they've eliminated? Send out thousands and thousands of "nevermind" letters?

If a bill likes this passes, and the insurance companies are unable to reoffer cancelled plans, it will be they who are blamed for the losses. Obama will be able to weather the storm of his blatant lies as MSM coverage will shift. It will get the dems off the hook.

At the very worst, it will allow republicans to join in with a very active role in this absolute debacle. Please just let the entire darn thing collapse.
27 posted on 11/13/2013 10:58:25 AM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: Para-Ord.45
But there is a plan than does.

Wrong, Eric Eric. The government can't force the insurance companies to restore the plans they've already cancelled.

28 posted on 11/13/2013 10:58:38 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Why not? The government is the one who forced insurance companies to cancel people’s plans in the first place!


29 posted on 11/13/2013 11:03:56 AM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Check out post #27.


30 posted on 11/13/2013 11:05:41 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We're At That Awkward Stage: It's too late to vote them out, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: mmichaels1970

31 posted on 11/13/2013 11:06:20 AM PST by Para-Ord.45 ( Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Insist on repeal, or at least defunding. Making the people live with Obamacare is immoral.

However, if they delay the mandate a year and put the to-be-cancelled plans back in place, what that does is to push the cancellations in the individual market back a year, to join the cancellations in the small and big business markets to the fall of 2014 — right in the homestretch of the election campaign.


32 posted on 11/13/2013 11:12:08 AM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Yo-Yo

First thing I thought of when I saw the title of the article. Thanks for posting.


33 posted on 11/13/2013 11:14:19 AM PST by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: Junk Silver

“Maybe just once the GOP could try telling American voters the truth?”

They could join with senators Cruz and Lee in a filibuster, but that might set their “friends” to calling them names. Can’t have that!

Oh, and they’d also have to apologize and admit that Ted Cruz has been right all along.

Nope. Get ready for Lucy, Charlie Brown, and the old football trick.


34 posted on 11/13/2013 11:15:06 AM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: Para-Ord.45

Starring Elijah Cummings....


35 posted on 11/13/2013 11:19:45 AM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Para-Ord.45
But there is a plan than does. Senator Mary Landrieu has written legislation in the United States Senate that the Democrats love. It mandates insurance companies have to keep people on their present insurance.

Helping them put these companies out of business even faster than originally planned, hello single-payer.

36 posted on 11/13/2013 11:21:12 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Para-Ord.45

The author is dumb if he thinks the GOPe doesn’t realize it.


37 posted on 11/13/2013 11:21:46 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Yo-Yo

38 posted on 11/13/2013 11:27:02 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

The next time we hear a Democrat saying that Republicans are stupid, let’s remember that such an opinion has a foundation in reality.


39 posted on 11/13/2013 11:28:18 AM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: cripplecreek

LOL!!!


40 posted on 11/13/2013 11:30:20 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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