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Dems give Obama ultimatum: Fix health plan cancellations by Friday
Fox News ^ | November 13, 2013

Posted on 11/13/2013 11:57:37 AM PST by Zakeet

House Democrats delivered a fix-it-or-else ultimatum Wednesday to President Obama, giving his administration until Friday to find an affordable solution for the millions of Americans losing their health plans under ObamaCare -- or risk some Democrats backing a Republican solution.

The ultimatum from President Obama's own party is another sign of the unrest within the Democratic caucus about the cancellation notices. The end-of-the-week deadline is significant, because House Republicans are planning to call a vote Friday on a bill that would extend current policies for another year.

It's unclear whether Democrats would go so far as to support that bill if the administration does not offer a Plan B. But one senior Democratic source told Fox News that, at a closed meeting Wednesday, Democrats made clear to the administration that they need a proposed fix before Friday's vote.

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The Rats are starting to get tired of falling on their swords for the Royal Idiot!

1 posted on 11/13/2013 11:57:37 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

Wonder what sort of laughably desperate Hail Mary play Obama’s gonna try and run?


2 posted on 11/13/2013 11:58:59 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Zakeet

When the Upton bill passes and goes to the Senate, Harry Reid will make it unrecognizable.


3 posted on 11/13/2013 11:59:16 AM PST by AU72
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To: Zakeet

The only fix that should be on the table is a complete repeal or defunding, which is a repeal.

Repeal is the only way to go.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 12:00:08 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Zakeet

this is about the time GOP surrenders right?


5 posted on 11/13/2013 12:00:10 PM PST by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: Zakeet

I don’t get it, didn’t they already have it?


6 posted on 11/13/2013 12:01:20 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: AU72

Republicans should not HAVE a “solution” except REPEAL. FFS it isn’t tough people.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 12:01:25 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Wonder what sort of laughably desperate Hail Mary play Obama’s gonna try and run?”

He’ll blame the insurance companies.


8 posted on 11/13/2013 12:01:37 PM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

He’s going to hit the campaign trail, of course. That’s his answer to everything. Or he’ll visit the Philippines. Or he’s start a little war somewhere.


9 posted on 11/13/2013 12:02:19 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Zakeet

Time for a “major policy announcement!”


10 posted on 11/13/2013 12:02:22 PM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Zakeet

See tagline.


11 posted on 11/13/2013 12:02:38 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (I Love 0bamaCare! It proves government incompetence forever.)
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To: Zakeet

How can Obama fix it? It’s the law!!! He’s not the king! He can’t just change a law because he wants to! Those idiots passed it, and if they want to change it, they’ve got to do something about it.

So what’s your choice, morons? Is it worth screwing the American people to keep from doing what you hate the most - siding with Republicans? Are you that hateful of everyone to the Right of you that you would rather keep wrecking the health insurance of American families just to keep yourselves “clean” and free of conservative blight?


12 posted on 11/13/2013 12:02:41 PM PST by Shadowfax
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To: Zakeet

Nothing is more dangerous that a trapped RAT.
Keep all eyes on Reid, McCain and Pelosi as they are going to swing a switch-a-roo.


13 posted on 11/13/2013 12:03:37 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Shadowfax

Didn’t the regime delay the employer mandate 1 year via executive order?


14 posted on 11/13/2013 12:03:43 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's 3rd term: squaw Warren? Lord help us!)
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To: Zakeet

Just like those German officers at the Nuremberg trials in post war Germany, these rat politicos are going to tell their constituents back home that in 2009 they were just following orders.


15 posted on 11/13/2013 12:03:58 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: sappy
this is about the time GOP surrenders right?

EgggZakly!!

16 posted on 11/13/2013 12:05:07 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: LS

Amen, amen, and amen!


17 posted on 11/13/2013 12:05:59 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Zakeet

Those Dems better watch it. Presenting an ultimatum to Obama is not very respectful, and President Jarrett will not be happy. She will invoke something called “The Chicago Way”.


18 posted on 11/13/2013 12:06:02 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Zakeet

To wit: “Now that we’re almost done bulldozing the neighborhood, let’s give people another year to get their houses up to the new zoning codes.”

Too.
Damn.
Late.


19 posted on 11/13/2013 12:06:03 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: Daveinyork

He blamed them in Round 1. 2 for 2?


20 posted on 11/13/2013 12:08:02 PM PST by sarasota
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To: Shadowfax

Obama IS king. He’s tweeked this thing 16 times iirc since the law was signed (waiver for unions, waiver for fed employees, etc.) Tweeking things over three years hasn’t made it better. What tweeks can he do in three days that will help?

Perhaps the rats are abandoning ship. This way come re-election time they can say “I pleaded with the president to change things.....”


21 posted on 11/13/2013 12:08:06 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Zakeet

...or else we’ll send you a strongly worded letter.


22 posted on 11/13/2013 12:08:22 PM PST by Lucky9teen (“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” ~ Albert Einstei)
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To: Zakeet
The Congress can't fix this.

Those plans are gone and they aren't coming back without wholesale repeal of Obamacare and persuading the insurance companies to reinstate without coercion.

The architects of this plan have been working on it for 40 years or more and are sitting out there congratulating themselves over what a marvelous success it was and what fabulous pawns Obama and Democrats in Congress were.

23 posted on 11/13/2013 12:09:46 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Zakeet

Update: Schmucktastic.

“They’re telling us all about actuarial tables and all about how the process would work and all of this is fine and great and it would be great in a classroom and you would get an A on your test, but this isn’t about getting an A on your test, this is about ads,” said Rep. Steve Cohen, a Memphis liberal…

“It’s ugly,” said one Democratic source in the meeting. “There’s no way Obama and Pelosi will let their legacy go down in flames. I just wouldn’t want to be from a swing district right now. Or anything that closely resembles one.”…

If they stand with the White House on Friday’s vote, they face the worst of all possible worlds: Campaign ads pointing out that they not only backed Obama’s broken promise but also opposed legislation to fix it. The White House has two days, they warned, to come up with an alternative way to ensure Americans aren’t thrown off their health plans. The president has vowed to find an administrative fix—rather than a legislative one—but that has proved difficult so far.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/13/angry-house-dems-demand-obamacare-fix-from-white-house-aides-in-heated-meeting/


24 posted on 11/13/2013 12:10:08 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Zakeet

Funny.....when Republicans were doing this we were called terrorists and hostage takers.


25 posted on 11/13/2013 12:10:10 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: MrChips
Or he’s start a little war somewhere.

Heh...funny you should mention that...

New Iran sanctions will lead to war, White House warns
26 posted on 11/13/2013 12:10:40 PM PST by Lucky9teen (“No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it.” ~ Albert Einstei)
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27 posted on 11/13/2013 12:10:48 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: ctdonath2

********** To wit: “Now that we’re almost done bulldozing the neighborhood, let’s give people another year to get their houses up to the new zoning codes.”

*********

More like “Let them keep their old houses that are already destroyed.”

My insurance company has already given me the notice that they have cancelled my plan and will roll me over into a Obamacare compliant (and more expensive) plan.


28 posted on 11/13/2013 12:10:53 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: nickcarraway

Once they get this solution, they will need a solution to fix the solution. Then they will need a solution to fix the solution that fixed the solution. It will be perpetual motion. Lord, I miss America.


29 posted on 11/13/2013 12:11:32 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Zakeet
...or risk some Democrats backing a Republican solution.

Since this is Fox News, they're calling it a "Republican solution."

If it were MSNBCBSABCNN, they would call it the Landrieu-Feinstein Democrat solution.

-PJ

30 posted on 11/13/2013 12:11:59 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Wonder what sort of laughably desperate Hail Mary play Obama’s gonna try and run?”

Isn’t it about time for Syria to explode again?


31 posted on 11/13/2013 12:12:34 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Increase the subsidies to “free” for the majority but prorate it down in out years.


32 posted on 11/13/2013 12:12:44 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Zakeet

There really aren’t any viable options. Every thing that can be done will only make a bad situation even worse.


33 posted on 11/13/2013 12:12:51 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: LS

I’m afraid that a Republican backed bail-out of this national disaster will only provide cover for these Dems come next November.

It hurts to say this, but only with further prolonged unraveling and suffering by this country will people (maybe) finally wake up.

The pain and chaos needs to continue and the embarrassment needs to sink to even further depths.

It is times like this that a Reagan figure can rise from the right and it will most likely be the Tea Party.


34 posted on 11/13/2013 12:12:54 PM PST by motoman
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To: SeaHawkFan

I’d be satisfied with a 30 year delay.


35 posted on 11/13/2013 12:13:07 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Zakeet; All

Democrats irresponsibly rammed Obamacare, not letting anybody read it, and now Obama seems to be getting a dose of that same “medicine,” pun intended.


36 posted on 11/13/2013 12:13:37 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Zakeet

The GOP should say, “Golly, jee, guys, this is YOUR mess! But we will go along with whatever you decide” :)

At THIS point, it is such a freaking mess that it CAN’T be fixed and the GOP should allow the Dems to get their filthy, incompetent fingerprints all over any defective efforts to repair it while standing well out of range of public ire.

THEN, when they get control of the House and Senate in the fall out in 2014, IMPEACH that bastard Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.


37 posted on 11/13/2013 12:15:49 PM PST by ZULU (Impeach that Bastard Barrack Hussein Obama)
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To: Zakeet
Where's Michelle?? Why isn'[t she promoting...the sex portion of Obamacare...after all...she's a free woman

...and her hubby has already told his girls they could and should kill their baby if it is inconvenient.

Come on Michelle...step to the plate...promote killing babies...spreading aids...

38 posted on 11/13/2013 12:17:57 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Lucky9teen
Yeah, a war with Iran might overshadow Obamacare.

Hey, do you know how to add a tagline to one's name, as so many people here do? I can't figure it out.

39 posted on 11/13/2013 12:18:19 PM PST by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: 21twelve

The LIBs/DIMs are such a-holes. They created the menu featuring the Clown-Prince-nobama-care-Sh**-Sandwich. They should choke on it. Choke, you Freedom-hating, anti-American jerks...CHOKE!


40 posted on 11/13/2013 12:18:30 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: MrChips

That was my thought...He already took a trip down south...and Jindal chewed his a**


41 posted on 11/13/2013 12:18:54 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Zakeet
Landrieu, Feinstein, Hagan and all the other so-called "progressive" regressives who propose a "fix" in order to save political "seats" simply don't understand the real problem though:

The problem is that the "fix" just involves more coercive intrusion on the rights of individuals, on intrusion into and distortion of the insurance marketplace, on the future quality and proliferation of health care providers, and the damaging impact that their own regressive and arrogant assumptions is having on real individual American citizens and their families.

Just who do the Clintons, the Obamas, the Landrieu's, the Feinsteins and all "progressives"--no matter how good they believe their intentions are--believe they are? That great intellectual freedom fighter, Author of the Declaration of Independence, and former President may have, inadvertently, identified them in the following quotation:

"The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately." —Thomas Jefferson

One other thought: lest the Democrats who laid this oppressive legislation on the nation by their votes now claim that they did it to "help" us and it is just "not working" as they intended, let them consider the words of C. S. Lewis about "moral busybodies" who use the coercive power of government to "do" their good:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. Lewis

42 posted on 11/13/2013 12:19:16 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Amendment10

Just add a drop down box to Healcare.gov for people to reactivate old insurance coverage.

That’ll work real well....


43 posted on 11/13/2013 12:19:51 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: Rebelbase
Don't think that will happen...Russia is in charge. Amazing they said it would take years and years to get rid of their chemical weapons...and I believe there is only one site left.

When will the USA get rid of its chemical weapons.

44 posted on 11/13/2013 12:21:22 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Zakeet

Just remember, the Democrats aren’t even trying to fix Obamacare, they are only concerned with fixing the elections in Nov 2014.

Whatever happens on Friday I already know that it’s all the fault of those greedy, racist, obstructionist 1% Republicans!


45 posted on 11/13/2013 12:29:45 PM PST by Junk Silver
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To: All

The Moron's major magic moment will never take effect!

Here's how I'm betting that things play out:

October: Government clowns can't even build a website to enroll the subjects. Democrats talk tough and hold fast. Mainstream media blames the Tea Party.

November: Millions are dumped by insurance companies ... millions more are forced to change doctors and hospitals. Democrats begin to wet their pants. Mainstream media becomes concerned and begins to wonder about the Community Organizer.

January: People without insurance start get sick and need care immediately. A huge burden is placed on the Treasury. Doctors and hospitals accepting ObamaCare are overwhelmed. Government idiots discover that approving and processing claims is far more daunting a task than enrolling customers. Approvals are delayed and denied. People start to die in droves. Democrats start jumping up and down while wetting their pants. Mainstream media begins to openly wonder about everybody but themselves.

February: Government check-writers are overwhelmed. Payments are delayed and denied. Banks are ordered to extend emergency loans to patients and healthcare providers. Healthcare providers drop out of ObamaCare in droves. Patients start to die in ever increasing numbers. Horror stories abound. Budget talks and debt limit talks add to the circus. Healthcare system melts down. Remaining confidence is lost in government and mainstream media. Liberals form a circle and begin the world's greatest p*ssing contest.

Timing may be a little off, the outcome is inevitable. I would love to be wrong ... but, unfortunately, we are dealing with government ineptitude and central planning.

46 posted on 11/13/2013 12:34:22 PM PST by Zakeet (If socialists understood economics, they wouldn't be socialists - Friedrich Hayek)
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To: Zakeet

FUBARack doan lak to be toad wut to doo.......


47 posted on 11/13/2013 12:35:12 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: ZULU

Dead on! Instead, the R’s will offer some compromise. This thing is a train wreck. There is NO compromise that will fix it. None. It must be repealed, but not till AFTER the ‘14 or maybe ‘16 elections when we have the senate. If we repeal now, or give a compromise, then this thing hangs around the neck of the GOP, and the dems will campaign endlessly on how we wrecked Obamacare, insuring big wins in the next two elections.

Screw em, anyone wanting to toss in some fix now, is short-sighted.

No putting off the mandate until after the ‘14 elections either!

Remember, “IT’S THE LAW OF THE LAND”

The dems made their bed, let them lay in it until after the elections, let them scramble and bang their heads on the wall. It is not the GOP’s job to rescue this sinking Titanic at this point.

I know some will say I am heartless. Yes, some people will pay a lot more until we take the Senate back, but I say that is a small price to pay to save our nation. Also, every week this goes on, more and more libs will be mugged. A conservative is a lib who has been mugged. Let the moochers see that THEY are the ones getting screwed by their own party.


48 posted on 11/13/2013 12:35:26 PM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Extending the subsidies to all those people is a complete budget-buster. Obama can’t do it anyway without Congress. And if the Pubbies in the House go for THAT, it really WILL be time to blow-up the GOP.


49 posted on 11/13/2013 12:36:18 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: motoman

Yes, yes, yes. There must be MUCH more suffering here. Teach these people what it means to elect liberals.


50 posted on 11/13/2013 12:36:50 PM PST by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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