Skip to comments.Dems give Obama ultimatum: Fix health plan cancellations by Friday
Posted on 11/13/2013 11:57:37 AM PST by Zakeet
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This is a sucker bet. The House should not do anything and force Obama and his Senate Dims to come up with a fix. We tried during the shutdown and had the door slammed in our face while calling us "terrorists." Screw 'em. They broke it and they can fix it.
If the GOP was smart (begin laughing) they’ll demand repeal of at least the individual mandate and for the ones that already signed up for Medicaid, make Obama pay for them out of the IRS and HHS budgets.
What budget is that?
While they’re at it on Friday, why don’t they also pass a law that McDonalds has to sell pizza. Or Home Depot has to come to your house and put the Behr Premium Ultra on your walls for the $38 bucks. No difference.
Taxpayers deserve their 643 million dollars back!
“...Wonder what sort of laughably desperate Hail Mary play Obamas gonna try and run?...”
Whatever it is, he won’t have the same result that Roger Staubach had with Drew Pearson, that being a successful scoring attempt.
“Substandard Plans” is the mantra...
Mark Steyn pointed that about two or three years ago. From this point forward, the ONLY debates that will occur in federal government are how to “fix” health care and reduce costs. Nothing else will ever be discussed or debated.
Probably. Same thing went down with PPACA. House passed a “filler” bill, Senate removed all verbage, filled it back up with PPACA and sent it back to the House for “reconciliation”.
The BAIT n SWITCH here? House Dems want to pass a bill demanding “you like it, you keep it”, which will be another joke bill. Senate will remove all verbage and fill it with Landrieu’s bill. The bill goes back to the House. The House Republicans will then be in a lose-lose position.
Actually if we had a legit impartial media in this country instead of a communist propaganda machine, it would be that witch Nancy Pelosis ass on the fire as well as she pushed this Obamination more than anyone. “Ok Nancy it was passed and we see what’s in it - a disaster”
“restless democrat cockus”——I’m pretty sure that’s covered somewhere around page 1999 in Kenyan care. Them boys are going to have to suck it up and take their medicine. I’m pretty sure the dose is taken rectally-—kind of like jamming a ballot box into a crooked election-—or was it erection?
The House Republicans are going to get a great opportunity to role back a bunch of dumb stuff if they can just stand to get it together.
Let's just back this Obamatanic ship up and show that iceberg who's boss.
I noticed Jarrett came out talking this morning——that’s how bad it is. I expect she told the Kenyan “I’ll take it from here.”
LOL! A perfect moniker for the Blamer-in-Chief!
The House leadership should convene the Rules Committee tonight and vote on Upton a day earlier than expected.
Give the House RATS their only chance to vote on a legislative fix BEFORE Obama announces a regulatory fig leaf on Friday, specifically designed to give the RATS political cover.
Vote ASAP on Upton.
Don’t fix it. Let is crash and burn. This is the only way we can get the country back to sound governance.
“Fixing” it further destroys the country.
Any Republican who helps the Democrats fix ObamaCare should be fixed themselves. As in spayed and neutered.
All they gotta do is trick the peasants until November 5, 2014...
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Even if things get extended for a year, plans that were already cancelled are cancelled. Even if the insurance companies re-offer those plans, people would be getting on NEW plans, and pre-existing conditions from the old plans would not be covered.
Those people who got diagnosed with cancer or some other condition would be well and truly screwed, and would have no choice to go Obamacare.
“Those people who got diagnosed with cancer or some other condition would be well and truly screwed...”
I hadn’t thought of that part. Evil, greedy insurance companies. /s
In for a penny, in for a pound. The dems will solve this issue by spending more money that they don't have. And when the republicans balk at the increases subsidies, all hell breaks loose again. No way the dems walk away from this first step on the road to single payer healthcare.
If I was the GOP, I’d be flooding the air waves right now, framing the debate. I’d run 30 second spots that just say “If you want to keep your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan. Period.” And show the president saying it a few times at different events. Then at the end, show his clip where he scolds the house and says “Elections have consequences”. Maybe toss in Pelosi and her “you gotta pass it to see what’s in it”, I dunno.
Just simple, keep it at that.
I’d run those ads in every battleground state until ‘14.
But of course, the GOP won’t, instead they’ll do whatever they can to hinder anyone running against their darling establishment girlfriends, be them D or R. That’s all the establishment wants, to keep the status quo, it doesn’t matter if it’s a donk or elephant, just so long as they are a “team player”.
I watched part of the hearings today. The Obamacare bureaucrats acted like, or were told to act, as if everything will be fine in awhile, don’t worry.
One rep asked one tech head was the system fully tested. The tech guy said, what do you mean by “fully”? The rep just laughed.
The jug eared superturd just shiite a brick.
What ever it is, will be illegal and incredibly expensive.
This bill was written by the rats in congress.....Obama can’t fix shit.....its the law of the land you stupid bitches...
Scrap this POS
Great picture! LOL
Dennis Miller said disappointed Leftists react like a bucnh of racoons caught in the trash dump at 3 AM - hissing & baring their teeth. Don’t handle it well, IOW. Miller warns everyone to “look out” - leftists are basically insane (irrational) and violent people....
You, my friend, are absolutely, 100% correct. The American people are going to have to feel the pain of their love affair with Socialism before they truly understand what an abominable, destructive thing it is.
I don't want to see Americans suffer either, but they'll never truly see the light if they don't.
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Insurance companies have little incentive to do anything. They have a guaranteed bailout as part of the bill. They can do as they please-question is what do they want (other than young and healhy customers)?
The right door looks perfectly safe. Right is right, as usual.
Doesn’t Obamacare force them to give refunds to customers if they spend less than 80% on health care costs? Seems like their only incentive is to make a 20% profit. They certainly don’t have any incentives to overcharge customers under Obamacare since they have to send that money back after that point.
healhy = healthy
It’s their fault for ever passing it in the first place.
Re-elect new Congressmen and Senators.
Seriously, I never said anything about over charging, so I don't really know why you asked me that.
They wanted the young and healthy to help offset the costs of the sick people. I myself, thought that when the government took over the sickest segment (people over age 65) that the Insurance companies got more than enough help to allow them to provide a competitive product and still make a decent profit.
However, then the government decided that health care was cosing too much, so they decided they would just pay what they wanted to the Docs. So the Docs had to recover their costs from the private sector. So health care costs skyrocketed. It's a vicious cycle.
Just goes to prove the scariness of those famous words: I'm from the government and I am here to help.
Regarding the return of “overcharges”: Was it 80 or 85%? Either way a 15 - 20% profit margin is a darn good margin.
So they hedge their bets, and make sure that their pricing gives them the max profit allowed, and redefine health care “costs” if they need to.
And they get protection from downside risks via the ACA. So like I said, they have no incentive to do anything, other than whatever the heck they want. They have arranged to be in the cat bird seat so to speak.
It would be really nice, if they would just let Obama and his ilk twist in the wind. One the other hand, I really would like to see people who are getting insurance canceled and prices raised so much have some recourse. It's criminal really what's happening to them.
Can you imagine having a spouse or child with cancer or some other severe illness and not being able to continue your insurance coverage because of this government caused debacle? And to add insult to injury, you have to pay a penalty? These socialists will pay for this. In this life or the next.
Oh yes, I forgot, they didn't ready the freakin' bill in the first place.
Everyone of these toads needs to be run out office, tarred, and feathered.
Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster on every level. It's a showcase of incompetence, corruption, waste, fraud, and criminal conduct.
The insurance companies are losing millions. They’re not selling anywhere near the number of policies they’re cancelling.
I was very surprised at Gloria Borger today. She basically said there’s nothing the democrat senators can say that will save them.
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