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Dems give Obama ultimatum: Fix health plan cancellations by Friday
Fox News ^ | November 13, 2013

Posted on 11/13/2013 11:57:37 AM PST by Zakeet

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To: Buckeye McFrog
The problem is the House may pass something acceptable, but the Senate will re-write it. And if the House doesn't pass the Senate's amended bill, they will blame the House Republicans for all the cancellations.

This is a sucker bet. The House should not do anything and force Obama and his Senate Dims to come up with a fix. We tried during the shutdown and had the door slammed in our face while calling us "terrorists." Screw 'em. They broke it and they can fix it.

51 posted on 11/13/2013 12:42:28 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Zakeet

If the GOP was smart (begin laughing) they’ll demand repeal of at least the individual mandate and for the ones that already signed up for Medicaid, make Obama pay for them out of the IRS and HHS budgets.


52 posted on 11/13/2013 12:46:47 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Extending the subsidies to all those people is a complete budget-buster.

What budget is that?

53 posted on 11/13/2013 12:52:02 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Zakeet

While they’re at it on Friday, why don’t they also pass a law that McDonalds has to sell pizza. Or Home Depot has to come to your house and put the Behr Premium Ultra on your walls for the $38 bucks. No difference.


54 posted on 11/13/2013 12:58:03 PM PST by ToastedHead
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To: Zakeet

Taxpayers deserve their 643 million dollars back!


55 posted on 11/13/2013 12:59:27 PM PST by Mashood
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“...Wonder what sort of laughably desperate Hail Mary play Obama’s gonna try and run?...”

Whatever it is, he won’t have the same result that Roger Staubach had with Drew Pearson, that being a successful scoring attempt.


56 posted on 11/13/2013 12:59:45 PM PST by NCC-1701 (LIV's are products of an incomplete education.)
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To: Daveinyork

“Substandard Plans” is the mantra...


57 posted on 11/13/2013 1:01:47 PM PST by Shady (It is called LIBERTY...Freedom linked to Responsibility. Any questions?)
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To: fhayek

Mark Steyn pointed that about two or three years ago. From this point forward, the ONLY debates that will occur in federal government are how to “fix” health care and reduce costs. Nothing else will ever be discussed or debated.


58 posted on 11/13/2013 1:02:38 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Zathras

Probably. Same thing went down with PPACA. House passed a “filler” bill, Senate removed all verbage, filled it back up with PPACA and sent it back to the House for “reconciliation”.

The BAIT n SWITCH here? House Dems want to pass a bill demanding “you like it, you keep it”, which will be another joke bill. Senate will remove all verbage and fill it with Landrieu’s bill. The bill goes back to the House. The House Republicans will then be in a lose-lose position.


59 posted on 11/13/2013 1:03:41 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Zakeet
March Obama pledges $2 TRILLION in 2014 to fix all the problems. LoFo voters, Dems, illegal immigrants, insurance companies, and lawyers all believe him and follow the Pied Piper of Communism. He implements via Exec Orders, QE VX11 at the Fed, and blames Bush for previous failures.
60 posted on 11/13/2013 1:06:26 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Zakeet

Actually if we had a legit impartial media in this country instead of a communist propaganda machine, it would be that witch Nancy Pelosis ass on the fire as well as she pushed this Obamination more than anyone. “Ok Nancy it was passed and we see what’s in it - a disaster”


61 posted on 11/13/2013 1:07:38 PM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: ZULU
THEN, when they get control of the House and Senate in the fall out in 2014, IMPEACH that bastard Barrack HUSSEIN Obama.

YES!! 2014 - The Impeachment Election!!
62 posted on 11/13/2013 1:09:02 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Zakeet

“restless democrat cockus”——I’m pretty sure that’s covered somewhere around page 1999 in Kenyan care. Them boys are going to have to suck it up and take their medicine. I’m pretty sure the dose is taken rectally-—kind of like jamming a ballot box into a crooked election-—or was it erection?

The House Republicans are going to get a great opportunity to role back a bunch of dumb stuff if they can just stand to get it together.


63 posted on 11/13/2013 1:11:55 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Zakeet
Yes indeed!

Let's just back this Obamatanic ship up and show that iceberg who's boss.

64 posted on 11/13/2013 1:12:24 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys=Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat, but they know what's best for you.)
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To: MrChips

I noticed Jarrett came out talking this morning——that’s how bad it is. I expect she told the Kenyan “I’ll take it from here.”


65 posted on 11/13/2013 1:15:00 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: clintonh8r
FUBARack

LOL! A perfect moniker for the Blamer-in-Chief!

66 posted on 11/13/2013 1:16:15 PM PST by ssaftler (Obama speaking is like the Fat Lady warming up: "Me Me Me Me Meeee")
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To: N. Theknow

The House leadership should convene the Rules Committee tonight and vote on Upton a day earlier than expected.

Give the House RATS their only chance to vote on a legislative fix BEFORE Obama announces a regulatory fig leaf on Friday, specifically designed to give the RATS political cover.

Vote ASAP on Upton.


67 posted on 11/13/2013 1:16:24 PM PST by mwl8787
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To: esoxmagnum
Should just tell Reid what Reid has told the House since 2010. NO! You guys voted on this bill "THAT MUST PASS IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT'S IN IT". So maybe you Senators should have taken a little more time to read this bill because this is YOUR MESS!

I would also throw Obama's words back at him. Hey Obama, the House is not going to vote on anything that will result in another mandate. "You don't like a particular policy or a particular president? Then argue for your position. Go out there and win an election."
68 posted on 11/13/2013 1:17:02 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Zakeet

Don’t fix it. Let is crash and burn. This is the only way we can get the country back to sound governance.

“Fixing” it further destroys the country.


69 posted on 11/13/2013 1:17:43 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: Zakeet

Any Republican who helps the Democrats fix ObamaCare should be fixed themselves. As in spayed and neutered.


70 posted on 11/13/2013 1:19:14 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Zakeet

All they gotta do is trick the peasants until November 5, 2014...


71 posted on 11/13/2013 1:23:59 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: MrChips

Adding a tagline is easy. When you post next time, take a look below your reply, there is a field for your tagline.


72 posted on 11/13/2013 1:28:51 PM PST by Kenton
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To: SeaHawkFan
The only fix that should be on the table is a complete repeal or defunding, which is a repeal.

Yep

73 posted on 11/13/2013 1:30:09 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: Mashood
Taxpayers deserve their 643 million dollars back!

I have seen this amount floating around before, but I have only seen official numbers of $293 million.
74 posted on 11/13/2013 1:30:16 PM PST by Eagle of Liberty (Be the Enemy Within the Enemy Within...)
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To: Kenton

OK thanks


75 posted on 11/13/2013 1:35:28 PM PST by MrChips (Ad sapientiam pertinet aeternarum rerum cognitio intellectualis - St. Augustine)
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To: 21twelve
More like “Let them keep their old houses that are already destroyed.” My insurance company has already given me the notice that they have cancelled my plan and will roll me over into a Obamacare compliant (and more expensive) plan.

Even if things get extended for a year, plans that were already cancelled are cancelled. Even if the insurance companies re-offer those plans, people would be getting on NEW plans, and pre-existing conditions from the old plans would not be covered.

Those people who got diagnosed with cancer or some other condition would be well and truly screwed, and would have no choice to go Obamacare.

76 posted on 11/13/2013 1:52:26 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Those people who got diagnosed with cancer or some other condition would be well and truly screwed...”

I hadn’t thought of that part. Evil, greedy insurance companies. /s


77 posted on 11/13/2013 1:56:32 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Zakeet
Shortly, we'll see a proposal from the dems increasing the subsidies people receive to compensate for the increased costs of Obamacare. It's the only way out for them, without killing the program or siding with republicans.

In for a penny, in for a pound. The dems will solve this issue by spending more money that they don't have. And when the republicans balk at the increases subsidies, all hell breaks loose again. No way the dems walk away from this first step on the road to single payer healthcare.

78 posted on 11/13/2013 2:04:32 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Eagle of Liberty

If I was the GOP, I’d be flooding the air waves right now, framing the debate. I’d run 30 second spots that just say “If you want to keep your healthcare plan you can keep your healthcare plan. Period.” And show the president saying it a few times at different events. Then at the end, show his clip where he scolds the house and says “Elections have consequences”. Maybe toss in Pelosi and her “you gotta pass it to see what’s in it”, I dunno.

Just simple, keep it at that.

I’d run those ads in every battleground state until ‘14.

But of course, the GOP won’t, instead they’ll do whatever they can to hinder anyone running against their darling establishment girlfriends, be them D or R. That’s all the establishment wants, to keep the status quo, it doesn’t matter if it’s a donk or elephant, just so long as they are a “team player”.


79 posted on 11/13/2013 2:10:20 PM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: Zakeet

I watched part of the hearings today. The Obamacare bureaucrats acted like, or were told to act, as if everything will be fine in awhile, don’t worry.

One rep asked one tech head was the system fully tested. The tech guy said, what do you mean by “fully”? The rep just laughed.


80 posted on 11/13/2013 2:22:46 PM PST by Rennes Templar (America needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.)
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To: Zakeet

The jug eared superturd just shiite a brick.


81 posted on 11/13/2013 2:42:06 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Wonder what sort of laughably desperate Hail Mary play Obama’s gonna try and run?

What ever it is, will be illegal and incredibly expensive.

82 posted on 11/13/2013 2:52:00 PM PST by depressed in 06 (America conceived in liberty, dies in slavery.)
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To: Zakeet

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This bill was written by the rats in congress.....Obama can’t fix shit.....its the law of the land you stupid bitches...

Scrap this POS


83 posted on 11/13/2013 3:43:49 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: Zakeet

~~~Fix health plan cancellations by Friday~~~

ROTFLOL

Might as well ask him to start telling the truth.

Popcorn, anyone?


84 posted on 11/13/2013 4:16:48 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Zakeet

Great picture! LOL


85 posted on 11/13/2013 4:20:42 PM PST by mandaladon (The truth about Benghazi is all I want)
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To: Zathras

Dennis Miller said disappointed Leftists react like a bucnh of racoons caught in the trash dump at 3 AM - hissing & baring their teeth. Don’t handle it well, IOW. Miller warns everyone to “look out” - leftists are basically insane (irrational) and violent people....


86 posted on 11/13/2013 5:01:51 PM PST by 4Liberty (Mr President 'If you Like your college transcripts...can we see them?')
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87 posted on 11/13/2013 5:25:12 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: motoman
It hurts to say this, but only with further prolonged unraveling and suffering by this country, will people (maybe) finally wake up.

You, my friend, are absolutely, 100% correct. The American people are going to have to feel the pain of their love affair with Socialism before they truly understand what an abominable, destructive thing it is.

I don't want to see Americans suffer either, but they'll never truly see the light if they don't.

88 posted on 11/13/2013 6:01:56 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Zakeet

REPEAL or RESIGN


89 posted on 11/13/2013 7:11:18 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: F15Eagle; All
"Dems give Obama ultimatum:
Fix health plan cancellations by Friday"


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90 posted on 11/13/2013 7:17:55 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: elkfersupper

Insurance companies have little incentive to do anything. They have a guaranteed bailout as part of the bill. They can do as they please-question is what do they want (other than young and healhy customers)?


91 posted on 11/13/2013 7:19:04 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: musicman

The right door looks perfectly safe. Right is right, as usual.


92 posted on 11/13/2013 7:20:09 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: greeneyes

Doesn’t Obamacare force them to give refunds to customers if they spend less than 80% on health care costs? Seems like their only incentive is to make a 20% profit. They certainly don’t have any incentives to overcharge customers under Obamacare since they have to send that money back after that point.


93 posted on 11/13/2013 7:21:24 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: greeneyes

healhy = healthy


94 posted on 11/13/2013 7:33:58 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Zakeet

It’s their fault for ever passing it in the first place.

Re-elect new Congressmen and Senators.


95 posted on 11/13/2013 7:37:32 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: JediJones
That all depends of what the meaning of costs “is”.LOL

Seriously, I never said anything about over charging, so I don't really know why you asked me that.

They wanted the young and healthy to help offset the costs of the sick people. I myself, thought that when the government took over the sickest segment (people over age 65) that the Insurance companies got more than enough help to allow them to provide a competitive product and still make a decent profit.

However, then the government decided that health care was cosing too much, so they decided they would just pay what they wanted to the Docs. So the Docs had to recover their costs from the private sector. So health care costs skyrocketed. It's a vicious cycle.

Just goes to prove the scariness of those famous words: I'm from the government and I am here to help.

Regarding the return of “overcharges”: Was it 80 or 85%? Either way a 15 - 20% profit margin is a darn good margin.

So they hedge their bets, and make sure that their pricing gives them the max profit allowed, and redefine health care “costs” if they need to.

And they get protection from downside risks via the ACA. So like I said, they have no incentive to do anything, other than whatever the heck they want. They have arranged to be in the cat bird seat so to speak.

It would be really nice, if they would just let Obama and his ilk twist in the wind. One the other hand, I really would like to see people who are getting insurance canceled and prices raised so much have some recourse. It's criminal really what's happening to them.

Can you imagine having a spouse or child with cancer or some other severe illness and not being able to continue your insurance coverage because of this government caused debacle? And to add insult to injury, you have to pay a penalty? These socialists will pay for this. In this life or the next.

96 posted on 11/13/2013 8:01:11 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Zakeet
Do these F&*#ing idiots not realize that there is no affordable solution under Obamacare?

Oh yes, I forgot, they didn't ready the freakin' bill in the first place.

Everyone of these toads needs to be run out office, tarred, and feathered.

Obamacare is an unmitigated disaster on every level. It's a showcase of incompetence, corruption, waste, fraud, and criminal conduct.

97 posted on 11/13/2013 8:35:12 PM PST by Lysandru
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To: elkfersupper

The insurance companies are losing millions. They’re not selling anywhere near the number of policies they’re cancelling.


98 posted on 11/13/2013 10:41:47 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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I was very surprised at Gloria Borger today. She basically said there’s nothing the democrat senators can say that will save them.


99 posted on 11/13/2013 10:49:13 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Zakeet
On what authority would 0 be able to mandate that publicly traded company do anything, especaily something that would violate the ACA (law of the land)? The only vehicle available for a “fix” by Friday would be an executive order requiring the insurance companies to brake the law.
100 posted on 11/14/2013 6:10:49 AM PST by john316 (JOSHUA 24:15 ...choose you this day whom ye will serve...)
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