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Abandon ship: Blue-state Dem Jeff Merkley to co-sponsor Landrieu’s version of “Keep Your Plan Act”
Hotair ^ | 11/13/2013 | AllahPundit

Posted on 11/13/2013 12:21:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind

It’s not just red-state Democrats who are panicking. Then again, Merkley’s not a typical blue-state Democrat. He won his Senate race in Oregon by fewer than four points in 2008, a year in which Hopenchange fever boosted Dems nationally. Not only won’t he have that working for him next year, he’ll have the albatross of Obama’s biggest “achievement” hanging around his neck. Time for him to do what little he can to shed it by joining Landrieu’s bill.

Last night a source told Greg Sargent that House Democrats were being whipped by the leadership to oppose Fred Upton’s bill, replete with warnings that rich liberals would turn off the money tap if they didn’t. How are the threats working out this morning? New from Sargent:

A senior Democratic aide tells me opposition to the Upton plan will be increasingly difficult to maintain among House Dems if the administration doesn’t offer a workable fix of its own. The aide adds the need to maintain House Dem opposition has been made more urgent by another problem: Senate Dems (the latest being Dianne Feinstein) supporting their own politically expedient “fixes” that could also undermine the law.

“Now that Feinstein has broken off, that makes it even more important that House Democrats stay together as much as possible — to keep Senate Ds from caving,” the senior Dem aide says. But the aide adds, in a reference to this week’s House action: ”We need an administrative fix that works before the vote.”

Twelve hours later, not only haven’t the threats stopped the bleeding, they’ve lost another key blue-state Dem in the Senate. Despite the painfully obvious fact that kicking healthy people off of cheap plans is how ObamaCare is supposed to work, the moronic Democrats in Congress who voted for it en masse three years ago and then stood by silently ever since while O repeated his Big Lie now demand some sort of quick political fix. I’m honestly curious to see what, if anything, Obama can come up with before Friday to placate them.

In the meantime, an interesting debate is happening among righties (and a few lefties) over what the GOP should do. Fred Upton’s “Keep Your Plan Act” is going to pass the House for sure, if only as a sort of formal censure of the Big Lie, so the debate is mainly academic, but it’s worth considering the implications for future O-Care votes. For starters, Erick Erickson thinks that the Upton bill will be quietly replaced in a conference with the Senate by Mary Landrieu’s bill, which, unlike Upton’s, requires that insurers resurrect plans that have been canceled. It’s a mandate, in other words. If House Republicans pass Landrieu’s bill, does that mean they’re now pro-mandate?

In one fell swoop, the Democrats will have the GOP on record saving Mary Landrieu’s re-election in Louisiana by casting her as the one who saved Americans’ health care plans, and also getting on record as really being in favor of fixing Obamacare with the use of mandates.

The GOP is walking right into the trap.

Republicans will spin that away, I assume, by saying that this isn’t a mandate aimed at limiting what the insurance industry can do, it’s a mandate aimed at the White House to force O to keep his promise by expanding what the industry can do. On the flip side, Conn Carroll argues that it’s actually Upton’s bill, not Landrieu’s, that presents the most political headaches for the GOP precisely because it gives insurers merely the option to resurrect canceled plans if they want. There’s no mandate that they do so. Which means, if/when insurers refuse to resurrect those plans, whether because it’s too logistically difficult to bring them back on short notice or because they’re too excited about the revenue they’re making off of the expensive new ObamaCare plans, the insurance industry will replace Obama and the Democrats as the main bad guys in all this:

Why on earth would Republicans want to bail Democrats out on Obamacare by supplying them with a villain to scapegoat?

More importantly, however, at no point does Capretta or Upton explain how they can guarantee the legislation will accomplish what the title says it will: that all Americans will be able to keep the plans they currently have.

True, millions of Americans who have not had their plans cancelled yet might have their plans saved… for a little while. But that still leaves millions of other Americans with cancelled plans.

Why do Republicans feel the need to make the same impossible promises about keeping your current plan that Obama did?

More cancellations are coming next year as the employer mandate takes effect and small businesses dump employees onto the exchanges. But that’s the Democrats’ problem, right? Republicans could offer a new version of Upton’s bill next year, after those cancellations start happening; if Democrats want to sign onto that too, that’s fine, but it’ll only make the industry’s adverse selection problem worse as healthy people decide to stay put in their old, cheaper plans. Essentially, by undoing cancellations periodically via legislation, the GOP and its Democratic allies would be making ObamaCare economically unsustainable.

But wait a sec, says lefty Brian Beutler. If Republicans are so opposed to the idea of people losing their insurance, how can they support repealing the law entirely?

The Keep Your Health Plan Act would be immensely damaging to Obamacare if it ever became law, and preventing it from becoming law will require Senate Democrats and President Obama to sustain real political damage over the next few weeks. But looking ahead, it will be useful for them to have Republicans on the record against forcing people off of their insurance.

Keep Your Health Plan would be consistent with the broader repeal campaign if Obamacare really provided no benefits. And if you’re cocooned in an impenetrable conservative information bubble, it must seem like that’s the case. But, even if you ignore Medicaid, which is expanding on a somewhat distinct path, the law’s already providing tangible benefits to tens of thousands of people. If Healthcare.gov is working in two weeks, that number will swell into the millions.

What happens to all the people with preexisting conditions who’ll have successfully enrolled on January 1 if O-Care becomes unsustainable or if, somehow, the GOP eventually manages to repeal it? Republicans have spoken for years of “repeal and replace,” not just repeal, but embracing Upton’s bill means they really do need to have their own plan to pay for the sick ready to go if/when Obama’s boondoggle finally loses Democratic support. That’s a nice problem to have, but still a problem.

Via the Daily Caller, here’s Kirsten Powers on Fox News last night recognizing the Big Lie for what it is. Skip to 2:35 for the key bit.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Michigan; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: 113th; abortion; deathpanels; fredupton; jeffmerkley; landrieu; louisiana; marylandrieu; merkley; michigan; obamacare; oregon; zerocare

1 posted on 11/13/2013 12:21:46 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If they’re not ripping this garbage out by its roots they are doing absolutely nothing!


2 posted on 11/13/2013 12:23:42 PM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 11/13/2013 12:24:10 PM PST by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ironic that they very thing the act needs to survive may be undermined by Rats jumping ship.


4 posted on 11/13/2013 12:24:35 PM PST by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I really think the GOP would be stupid to help the libs change this law at all. Why should they help the libs out?


5 posted on 11/13/2013 12:24:35 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Like watching chimpanzee’s on crack....


6 posted on 11/13/2013 12:24:59 PM PST by Col Frank Slade
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To: SeekAndFind

Repeal and replace—with free enterprise. Government stay OUT!!

“In our current crisis, government is not the solution; government is the problem.”

Reagan’s law always applies.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 12:26:33 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Dick Bachert
I’m honestly curious to see what, if anything, Obama can come up with before Friday to placate them.

How about the political equivalent of "You wouldn't look very good in cement overshoes and sleeping with the fishes."

8 posted on 11/13/2013 12:27:19 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind
I think someone should introduce the "Live To 150 And Save" Act.

If Congress mandates that insurance companies assume an average lifespan of 150 years, then think of the income they can bring in during all those extra "healthy" years that a millenial will live before needing a payout from their insurance plans!

Congress acts! Problem solved! Mission Accomplished!

-PJ

9 posted on 11/13/2013 12:27:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone needs to ask these afterthought dumba$$es.... How exactly does someone regain a plan that no longer exists?


10 posted on 11/13/2013 12:27:44 PM PST by Common Sense 101 (Hey libs... If your theories fly in the face of reality, it's not reality that's wrong.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Jim Robinson
Landrieu, Feinstein, Hagan, Merkley and all the other so-called "progressive" regressives who propose a "fix" in order to save political "seats" simply don't understand the real problem though:

The problem is that the "fix" just involves more coercive intrusion on the rights of individuals, on intrusion into and distortion of the insurance marketplace, on the future quality and proliferation of health care providers, and the damaging impact that their own regressive and arrogant assumptions is having on real individual American citizens and their families.

Just who do the Clintons, the Obamas, the Landrieu's, the Feinsteins and all "progressives"--no matter how good they believe their intentions are--believe they are? That great intellectual freedom fighter, Author of the Declaration of Independence, and former President may have, inadvertently, identified them in the following quotation:

"The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately." —Thomas Jefferson

One other thought: lest the Democrats who laid this oppressive legislation on the nation by their votes now claim that they did it to "help" us and it is just "not working" as they intended, let them consider the words of C. S. Lewis about "moral busybodies" who use the coercive power of government to "do" their good:

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. Lewis

11 posted on 11/13/2013 12:28:52 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: SeekAndFind

12 posted on 11/13/2013 12:29:42 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: SeekAndFind

I wouldn’t trust the ‘critter who stole our light bulbs to save our healthcare.


13 posted on 11/13/2013 12:32:41 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Common Sense 101
"How exactly does someone regain a plan that no longer exists?"

Even if it did exist, it would be ILLEGAL under the Unaffordable Care Act.

14 posted on 11/13/2013 12:32:56 PM PST by anoldafvet
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To: Vigilanteman
I’m honestly curious to see what, if anything, Obama can come up with before Friday to placate them. How about the political equivalent of "You wouldn't look very good in cement overshoes and sleeping with the fishes."

That's why the Dems who want to run away from this went out and got Bill Clinton on their side. Barry has been triangulated and neutered.


15 posted on 11/13/2013 12:33:19 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Message from any sensible conservative: There is no fix. No mandates. Repeal is the only answer. Force it as the ONLY option. Make the squirming Rats get on the Repeal Boat and make the Marxist veto it.


16 posted on 11/13/2013 12:34:25 PM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let the Dims “fix” this, although I don’t think it can be fixed short of repeal. Why should we bail them out?


17 posted on 11/13/2013 12:35:05 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Common Sense 101
Someone needs to ask these afterthought dumba$$es.... How exactly does someone regain a plan that no longer exists?

"An apocryphal Russian proverb tells us that it is easy to turn an aquarium into fish soup, but hard to turn the fish soup back into an aquarium."

Since this was entirely Obama's doing (it was not part of the ACA) perhaps a Congressional resolution telling Obama to turn the fish soup back into the aquarium.

(It can not be done, no matter how many bills they pass. Better Obama should take the entire blame than Republicans take part blame when the "fix" fails, too.)

18 posted on 11/13/2013 12:36:57 PM PST by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: colorado tanker

I’m reading a book about some guys on a life raft, and they just got done repairing it after being strafed by the Japs. Reminds me of obamacare.

They sink our nice, useable, and seaworthy vessel and force us into a cramped life raft riddled with holes. And their “fix” is to let us patch the holes.


19 posted on 11/13/2013 12:40:17 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
That's what we all thought back in the spring of 2008 when the BO Juggernaut was apparently halted by the Hildebeast. It didn't turn out that way.

Mark my words. He's not going to give this up. At best, he will allow a little more lipstick to be put on the pig to kick the can down the road past the 2014 midterms.

This is nothing more than the opening move for 2016. The GOP would be wise to insist that the only real fix is repeal and a promise to work on an alternative. But they don't call them the stupid party for nothing.

20 posted on 11/13/2013 12:47:50 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

21 posted on 11/13/2013 12:48:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SeekAndFind

yeah, force those evil insurance companies to not drop unsustainable policies. That will work....


22 posted on 11/13/2013 1:07:45 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Liberty or Big Government - you can't have both.)
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To: SeekAndFind
What is amazing is that these Democrats could not see this disaster coming.
They were warned time and time again, by Republicans.
Ted Cruz explained it all to them. Sarah Palin explained it to them. They were so busy with lip locks on Obama’s and Nancy's and Harry's buttocks that they just sat there playing with themselves while Rome burned.

Now they are panicking when their constituents are feeling the pain, a pain that just started and is metastasizing every day. It's just getting worse Demmies.

I said in here a month ago that Democrats would be running from the tar and feather buckets when this thing got in gear.

23 posted on 11/13/2013 1:19:08 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: andyk

The only change needed is complete destruction.


24 posted on 11/13/2013 1:20:03 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obamacare was built on the idea that millions would be forced to join it, which meant kicking them off their current insurance plans.

They knew this was going to happen, but they figured that the website would be working, but since it isn't, people are now left uninsured-a disaster for Democrats!

25 posted on 11/13/2013 1:46:53 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let me see: we hang together or hang apart. Yes let them hang together. It was the entire Democrat party that voted for this DeathPanelCare. No compromise - repeal or nothing.


26 posted on 11/13/2013 2:18:04 PM PST by VRW Conspirator (Obama is a proven liar, an admitted liar, an unrepentent liar.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Rats own the disaster and the ship will be takin em down. FUBAR.


27 posted on 11/13/2013 2:28:19 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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