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Reid calls special ObamaCare meeting
The Hill ^ | November 13, 2013 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 11/13/2013 1:12:32 PM PST by jazusamo

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To: jazusamo

Mcconell owes Cruz and Lee an apology.

Now they ought to be working daily to defund Obamacare. No fixes just defund legislation daily.


101 posted on 11/13/2013 4:40:30 PM PST by RginTN
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To: Zathras

“The RATS are scared and that is when they are the most dangerous.”

You’re spot on, Zathras, but you’re misreading the signals. The elitists aren’t dangerous. They’re scared sh*tless of getting hanged from lampposts.

Cheers, buddy


102 posted on 11/13/2013 5:12:57 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: jazusamo
“Several Democrats have signed onto a proposal sponsored by Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) that would force insurance companies to let people keep their health plans if they like them.”

So the Rats plan on forcing the insurance companies to violate the law?

103 posted on 11/13/2013 5:14:09 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: wmfights

I got everything you said the first time, no need to repeat it. My opinion is the incentive is only there to do it for the lower-income employees, just like companies are not worried about cutting part-timers to under 30 hours. Because those employees don’t have many other options as to where else to go and they are not difficult to replace if they do leave. I believe middle-to-higher income level employees are not as easy to replace and will be incentivized to move to another company who is still offering group health care if their health care is cut off. Because since they make too much money to get subsidized health care, cutting their health care benefits would be a pay cut to them. Cutting pay is not something a company who doesn’t want to lose good employees will do.


104 posted on 11/13/2013 5:19:23 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: jazusamo

All the GOP should do in this mess is act like King Putt and vote Present.


105 posted on 11/13/2013 5:21:47 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: jazusamo
Excellent advice...The implosion of the Rats is just beginning, it’ll be fun watching them finish the suicide.

Careful there. A wounded animal is a dangerous animal. They will take everybody down with them out of spite. It's all the libs know.

106 posted on 11/13/2013 5:24:38 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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To: AMDG&BVMH
“what I’d give to be a fly on the wall...” you beat me to it!

Or the fly on Barry's face.

107 posted on 11/13/2013 5:27:11 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The Gubment Has No Legitimacy. It needs to be Removed!)
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108 posted on 11/13/2013 5:29:59 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: RedMDer

109 posted on 11/13/2013 5:32:18 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: musicman

Thanks :)
I’m done now.


110 posted on 11/13/2013 5:34:47 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: tellw
How do you “un-cancel” cancelled health insurance? I mean don’t these things need to be negotiated and approved?

Exactly. The changes in the law have already been enacted. They cannot take them back at this point.

Insurance companies will rue the day they agreed to this disaster. All of those new premiums from young healthy people are not going to materialize. But all those new claims coming from high risk people will be coming in early in 2014. Meanwhile, the government continues to print new money to cover their losses, while the insurers have to live with theirs. And in 2015, those still struggling to pay for their insurance will see their rates double to cover the 2014 disaster.

111 posted on 11/13/2013 5:34:59 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

Exactly. The changes in the law have already been enacted. They cannot take them back at this point.


The bills are more mandates on top of the mandates that got us in this mess. Total nonsense.

It makes me nervous an old bull like Upton is leading the charge. It seems conservatives have been sidelined from the kenyancare debate for the moment by leadership.


112 posted on 11/13/2013 5:42:02 PM PST by lodi90
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To: jazusamo

‘McCain attends the meeting’

That would make it, ‘bi-partisan’.


113 posted on 11/13/2013 5:49:03 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: RedMDer
BUMP!
114 posted on 11/13/2013 5:51:03 PM PST by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: seeker41

First thing I saw on that graphic was the postponing of the House meetings regarding the self driving car.


115 posted on 11/13/2013 5:54:02 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: lodi90
This is the point where Republicans should be going for the kill. They should be emphasizing that Ted Cruz was right all along, that Democrats cannot be trusted, and that they will settle for nothing short of full repeal of the entire law in all its glory. And any time any Democrat has the chutzpah to suggest a delay in the individual mandate, point out how that very same Democrat had voted against any such delay only a month ago.

DO NOT LET THEM OFF THE HOOK FOR THIS. Drive it home again and again and again how the Democrats have been dead wrong about this for 3½ years now. We were able to fight WWII in less time than it has taken the Democrats to implement this. Except that WWII was actually a success.

116 posted on 11/13/2013 6:05:45 PM PST by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: MrB

1. Exactly. It was a calculated lie.
2. They do not want Obamacare to succeed. They want single payer.


117 posted on 11/13/2013 6:09:25 PM PST by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: jazusamo

Gotta gettheir lies strait.


118 posted on 11/13/2013 6:19:00 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: wmfights

Exactly.


119 posted on 11/13/2013 6:33:20 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: jazusamo

Sparks will fly. Get out the popcorn!


120 posted on 11/13/2013 6:36:21 PM PST by opres
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We are inches away from living in a Vampire Ecnomy....everyone should read the book by the same name.


121 posted on 11/13/2013 6:36:32 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: MrB
Without the lie of “you can keep your plan and doctor”, Obamacare would not be law, and Obama would not be president after Jan, 2012.

Well said.

Look now at where this goes and ends.

The democrats have disgraced themselves and injured 5 million good citizens who through no fault of their own have lost their (and their families') health insurance. There will be a Republican House and a Republican Senate.

There will be impeachment charges in the House of Representatives. That will include exposure that Obama does not even qualify to be president.

There will be a trial in the senate. Removal of Obama from the office.

Once he is removed prosecution of Obama will follow for the fraudulent false promises that people could keep their insurance and their doctor if they wished. A prison sentence looms for serial frauds on the people.

122 posted on 11/13/2013 6:37:29 PM PST by Rapscallion (The people of the lie compel you to buy Obamacare.)
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To: henkster

You forgot “racist”


123 posted on 11/13/2013 6:38:59 PM PST by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (It is going to be Foot to Ass combat on election day....my foot and a Rat's ass.)
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To: JediJones

I wish, but still too many socialists in congress. We must vote them out in 2014!


124 posted on 11/13/2013 6:41:27 PM PST by opres
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To: opres

The Pubs need to just stay the he!! out of the way of this coming disaster. The dims deserve what’s coming. They are responsible for this. They own it. IT’S ON THEM! Who’s got the popcorn around here? I want a big, big bowl of it and sit back and watch the disaster occur.


125 posted on 11/13/2013 6:59:57 PM PST by NCC-1701 (LIV's are products of an incomplete education.)
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To: lodi90
The bills are more mandates on top of the mandates that got us in this mess. Total nonsense.

Spot on.

How do you force an insurance company to let someone keep their plan at the same price AND comply with obamacare's mandates? You can't.

If insurance plans don't have to comply with the obamacare mandates then obamacare is null and void.
126 posted on 11/13/2013 7:12:30 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: jazusamo

Dean Wormer agrees as long as it is a double secret meeting.


127 posted on 11/13/2013 7:27:43 PM PST by DAC21
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To: olezip

You are 100% right.


128 posted on 11/13/2013 7:33:40 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: jazusamo

Hold onto your wallets boys and girls. Zero and Harry are about to fix the problem by subsidizing massive numbers of insurance policies until we get past the 2014 elections. Of course this will all be sold as a temp fix.

The GOP will fold like cheap cameras.


129 posted on 11/13/2013 7:39:31 PM PST by Fzob (Jesus + anything = nothing, Jesus + nothing = everything)
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To: jazusamo

Look for Mitch to offer some suggestion for them.


130 posted on 11/13/2013 7:39:45 PM PST by kempster
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To: henkster

Headline after headline should read: Obama, Reid and the Democrats SHUT DOWN America’s Healthcare System with Lies and Deceit!

How many headlines did the media have stating that Cruz shut down the Government.(when he really didn’t) Fair-play, now it’s time for the Dems to be held accountable for destroying our healthcare system!!! Folks, they are against the ropes....jab, jab, jab....


131 posted on 11/13/2013 7:48:13 PM PST by Ms Mable
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To: Zathras
"The RATS are scared and that is when they are the most dangerous."

Agreed. They have been exposed by their own arrogance and incompetence. This one has Cloward-Piven written all over it and the dems own every last vote of it.

132 posted on 11/13/2013 9:47:02 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: seeker41

That’s racist!


133 posted on 11/13/2013 9:47:52 PM PST by WSGilcrest (/s)
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To: notpoliticallycorewrecked

Is the day coming when we’ll all say “Judge Roberts! You’re a genius!”


134 posted on 11/13/2013 10:19:26 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Fzob
Zero and Harry are about to fix the problem by subsidizing massive numbers of insurance policies until we get past the 2014 elections. Of course this will all be sold as a temp fix.

As with any other fiscal 'crisis', the solution will be to force taxpayers to pay for the resolution. Taxpayers currently over the Obamacare tax credit limit will get a tax credit equivalent to those under the limit, phased down as income rises, for one year, or for a two or three year phase-out. The cost will be $150 to $200 billion. That's my rough prediction.

135 posted on 11/13/2013 10:34:22 PM PST by Kennard
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

The more computer work I see being done by this white house, the less I’m concerned about being the government spying on me.


136 posted on 11/13/2013 10:35:34 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: seeker41

They’re still used in the print media, just not on the Internet. Too fast for love.


137 posted on 11/13/2013 10:47:23 PM PST by firebrand
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To: onyx

Rush is brilliant on this. I’m sure this is just what the Dems are planning.


138 posted on 11/13/2013 11:00:26 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Libloather
Mary Landrieu (Dim-La) has legislation all the desperate Dims who stupidly voted for Boobamba/Care think could save their seats......mandating that those "rotten insurance companies" re/offer plans that were cancelled by Obama and Dims own stupidity.

"Little Mary Sunshine" is desperate to save her seat---they got her on tape---parroting the ruinous Obama phrase "if you like your plan you can keep it."

Dems hope to dupe the voters---by creating the impression insurance companies----not Obamacare----caused the cancellations.

139 posted on 11/14/2013 2:31:30 AM PST by Liz
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To: jazusamo

They are planning on doing a bill reading to find out what really is in there.


140 posted on 11/14/2013 2:57:53 AM PST by pas
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To: jazusamo

Good. Now don’t help them just let them twist in the wind.


141 posted on 11/14/2013 3:07:42 AM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Rapscallion
Removal of Obama from the office.

I believe, if this happens, we'll be able to see how good our Zombie Apocalypse preps are.

142 posted on 11/14/2013 5:16:12 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: jazusamo

The ‘pubs should tell Dingy that if he and the dems want their support, they’ll need to negotiate... with Ted Cruz and Mike Lee.


143 posted on 11/14/2013 5:52:11 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: jazusamo

Miss me yet?


144 posted on 11/14/2013 5:58:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Hoodat

“How do you un-cancel health insurance” you ask?

Its done the same way that Barry “fixed” the Banks that were too big to fail.

He Natioanalizes the Insurance Companies.

Cloward Piven - the American way to implement Socialism in the US.

I believe the plan he had was to have this thing melt down over time, but he didn’t expect it to happen this fast.

He is counting on the impending collapse, to be the great savior with the Federal Government when people are crying in despair. Its what Hope and Change were made for.


145 posted on 11/14/2013 6:17:45 AM PST by R0CK3T
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment
"...Stop carping about this. Get over it. It's the law. It's the legacy of Barack Obama and always will be."

I am personally offended by Reid's remarks. He should resign as a result.

146 posted on 11/14/2013 6:29:16 AM PST by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: JediJones
The “free lunch” logic applies to employers as well as individuals. If they’re think they’re going to save money by pushing costs on the government, who is only going to drive costs and inefficiency up more and eventually have to raise taxes to run a health care system more expensive than it was previously, they’re wrong.

Employers have wanted to decouple healthcare from employer-provided benefits. Obamacare gives them the tool to do that. The fines for not providing it are far less than the costs of providing it to their employees. Tens of millions will be dropped from employer plans and forced into the exchanges. It is logical and human nature for most employers to make this decision. The financial incentive is clear.

Employer mandate

Beginning in 2015, employers with 50+ full-time employees or full-time equivalents must offer medical coverage that is "affordable" and provides minimum value to full-time employees and their children up to age 26 or face penalties.

Coverage is “affordable” if employee contributions are less than 9.5% of:

Employee's W-2 wages

Employee’s monthly wages (hourly rate x 130 hours per month),

OR Employer Penalties

147 posted on 11/14/2013 6:51:53 AM PST by kabar
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To: jazusamo

I would bet anything right now they are discussing how they can blame Republicans and the communist propaganda machine posing as our impartial media will blare it on the headlines for the next 3 years. “Republicans hacked website”


148 posted on 11/14/2013 10:49:00 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: jazusamo

Hey Harry,,,Obamacare is THE LAW OF THE LAND!!! No changes,,,,as in NO!!!!!

Bwaaahaahahaa! See how old Reid likes it now.


149 posted on 11/14/2013 1:40:58 PM PST by austinaero
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To: JediJones

“I’m saying if a company largely has lower-income employees they will do it but not if they’re largely stagged with middle-to-upper-income types. Just like the companies with lower-income employees have been cutting them back to under 30 hours now, but not companies with a more educated and higher paid workforce.”

You obviously didn’t hear how IBM cut benefits for its retirees and have no idea how many contractors IBM relies on......


150 posted on 11/14/2013 2:17:09 PM PST by austinaero
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