Skip to comments.Democrats Threaten to Abandon Obama on Health Law Provision
Posted on 11/13/2013 2:48:11 PM PST by jimbo123
Anxious congressional Democrats are threatening to abandon President Obama on a central element of his signature health care law, voicing increasing support for proposals that would allow Americans to retain the health insurance coverage they are losing because of the Affordable Care Act.
The dissent comes as a vote looms Friday in the Republican-controlled House on a bill that would allow Americans to keep their existing health coverage through 2014 without penalties. The measure, drafted by Representative Fred Upton, the Michigan Republican who is the chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee, is opposed by the White House, which argues that it would severely undermine the Affordable Care Act by allowing insurance companies to continue to sell health coverage that does not meet the higher standard of Mr. Obamas health care law.
But a growing number of House Democrats, reflecting a strong political backlash to the rollout of the health care law, are warning the White House they might support the measure if the administration does not provide a strong alternative argument. The approaching House vote is shaping up as an important test for both the health measure and the unity that Democratic leaders have so far been able to maintain around the health law despite a fierce Republican attack against it.
In a closed-door meeting Wednesday of House Democrats and White House officials, tensions flared as several lawmakers upbraided the administration, saying that the president had put Democrats in a tough political position by wrongly promising consumers that they could keep their existing health care plans. In fact, hundreds of thousands of Americans have received cancellation notices from their insurers because their health care coverage does not meet the minimum standards dictated by the new law.
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It is the law of the land.
Pass the popcorn.
These Democrats need to hang with Obama. They wrote it. They voted for it. They pimped it. Show them no quarter. Attack!
RATs going down with their filthy ship. FUBAR.
As we were oh-so-pointedly reminded during the shutdown, this is “settled law,” passed by both houses of Congress, signed into law and confirmed by SCOTUS!
No deals with the dark side. THEY sold their souls to it, so they can drown in its bilge!
Just how is this going to work? How do you pass a law that says that you get keep something that you no longer have? Do they really think these insurance companies are going to go back and re-offer the old plans? This is crazy talk.
This is a congressional democrat bill as much as it is Obama’s. They CAN’T abandon it now. It’s their tar baby.
Eat your peas!
They were for it before they were against it, just bidding their time for a few years from now when all those people die along with their health plans.
The veneer is going to be stripped away, it was always intended that millions would be not allowed to keep their plans, Obama has admitted that already!
Wasn’t the entire supposed point of Obamacare to insure something like 20 - 30 million “uninsured/underinsured”?
And instead it has destroyed the insurance of 30 - 53 million people and counting?
Yeah, I wonder what Roberts is going to say now. It’s just another exemption.... from a tax...
Funny thing that the “shutdown” is SUCH a distant memory now.
Pubs, tell your “friends across the aisle” there are 40 repeal bills languishing in Harry Reid’s “ignore” file. House dems can tell their counterparts in the Senate to take it up with Reid.
Trying to apply surface “fixes” to this hot mess is akin to putting earrings and perfume on a warthog. At the end of the day, it’s still just a warthog. Get rid of it. Now.
Not long enough. Maybe make a deal if it's 2017 or beyond.
IT’S THE LAW OF THE LAND!
and exemptions were NOT part of the law. Go the USSC and make sure the full LAW OF THE LAND is implemented without delay!
I think it's just over 5 million who have lost their insurance.
Let us see what the law does before we read it... filthy swines do not like the visibility of the crucifiction they so much favored, all these feminists and their wuss gop e husbands lying.
Umm, the Justice Brothers will be knocking on your door... Remember “Tar Baby” is racist now.
As is Briar Patch.
Anybody saw the psycho idiot in chief’s “I get away with it” smirk when he was making his phony appology. How can Americans be so stupid...
Lets get ready to RrrrrruuuuuuuuuummmmmbbbbLLLLLLLLLie..
A new level of stupid is taking place.
You either sponsor a bill to create the legislation to repeal the Affordable Healthcare Act of 2010, vote yes on it in both chambers and send it to the president for his signature, or you STFU and eat yer peas.
House Republicans should pass a clean, full repeal of Obamacare and make the Dems choke on it...
Remember the names the Dems call you Republicans? Remember Nancy Pelosi with that big-ass gavel and purposefully walked through Tea Party protesters daring them to say something vile to Rep. Lewis?
Remember how Dems shut you out of the debate and shoved this s--t sandwich down our throats?
Nope. Once the plans are cancelled, THAT'S IT.
It takes months for the plans to be re-registered with their state insurance regulator.
That would be my position. “its the law of the land” “Its settled law” deal with it.
The only real way to fix the problem of people losing their current coverage is to abandon all the new mandated “minimum standards” like mental health, substance abuse treatment, birth control, maternity care, children up to 26, etc. All those provisions are the main drivers of the higher costs. If Democrats aren’t talking about ditching those mandates, they aren’t serious about letting people keep their old plans.
Obama, tell ‘em “no way!” Remind them you’re worth losing elections for, and it’s time to eat their peas!
Kabuki Threats and Theater. The Clown has their files. NSA, anyone?
I totally agree, Triple E.
Like Prohibition, Obamacare was a bad idea from the start, was imposed by elites, hurt average Americans, undermined the rule of law, and undermined confidence in government. Prohibition was, and Obamacare is, defended as being settled law. The solution for Obamacare is the same as was the case for Prohibition: REPEAL!!!
They won’t abandon him. They’re going to have the screws put to them and they’ll get money for their campaigns.
It’s all theater for the masses.
The GOP should demand either 1) complete repeal now or 2) ALL laws enforced with NO waivers for ANYONE!
Short way to put it - Democrats won’t join Ted Cruz and the Tea Party terrorists.
They just magically think the insurance companies can recreate these plans just because Congress passes a law that says “do over”? They ignore the legal issues and the computer system issues and then all the hopsitals and doctors who’ve adjusted their practices and billing...
They have FUBARd the pooch big time.
yes but it’s just beginning.
Just "hundreds of thousands"?! A little downplaying in the NY Slimes??
Exactly right, you cannot force a company to sell a product. But they will probably try.
Seen all kinds of numbers out there.
If they abandon ship giv’em at leastc one brownie point for having the sense to know that they needed to jump overboard.
THS IS A TRAP.
Tell Upton to stuff it.
If they pass the bill, Reid will substitute the Landrieu language—WHICH SAVE OBAMACARE AND SAVE LANDRIEU!!!
It might have been nice if those democrats read the bill first-—they probably did, but they have their arses so far up there, they think nobody should notice.
Through 2014? THROUGH 2014?! Are you bleepin' kidding me?
The Collaborators truly are the stupid party.
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