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Boeing machinists reject contract Wednesday night
Kiro 7 News ^ | Nov. 12, 2013

Posted on 11/13/2013 9:45:45 PM PST by 21twelve

Excerpt: Boeing machinists (Washington State) rejected a contract Wednesday that would have exchanged worker concessions for years of secure jobs.

(Excerpt) Read more at isearch.avg.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aerospace
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1 posted on 11/13/2013 9:45:45 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: 21twelve

http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/boeing-machinists-face-contentious-contract-vote/nbrnQ/

Sorry - here is the real link to the Kiro 7 News website.


2 posted on 11/13/2013 9:47:26 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

Greed is never pretty. Union greed is downright ugly.


3 posted on 11/13/2013 9:48:34 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Millions are losing their healthcare thanks to ObamaScam! What a country!!!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Full pay ‘til the last day” -Eastern Airlines labor slogan


4 posted on 11/13/2013 9:51:42 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: 21twelve

Boeing could get the negotiations moving by changing all the signs in the plant from English to Spanish.


5 posted on 11/13/2013 9:52:18 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2022195247_boeingiam777xxml.html

an excerpt from an earlier article, Nov. 5, 2013

To try to secure a “yes” vote by the IAM’s 31,000 members here and 1,500 more in Portland, Boeing wrapped the bitter pill of its contract proposal in lots of sugar.

The IAM deal includes substantial cash awards: not only the big ratification bonus but also a “golden handshake” buyout that would allow retirement with boosted pension terms of $95 per month per year of service for anyone over age 58.

The take-aways include significantly higher health-care premiums and, crucially, the radically changed pension plan.

The new pension plan would have the company contribute a fixed percentage of gross salary into a retirement savings account each year: 10 percent the first year, 8 percent the second; 6 percent the third, and 4 percent every year thereafter.

The IAM is the last Boeing union with a traditional pension, and the company has sought unsuccessfully in multiple contract negotiations to move away from a defined-benefit pension plan to such a defined-contributions savings plan.

The offer would also change the wage structure so that new hires would take 16 years to reach the top of the pay scale instead of the 6  years it takes today.....

A company source said that during secret negotiations over the past months, Boeing moved somewhat toward the union on the pension and health-care numbers.....

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In tonight's Kiro 7 article they also talk about the stuff that the Governor added to try to keep Boeing and the union happy.

6 posted on 11/13/2013 9:54:05 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

Boeing, Inc. is very hard to deal with.


7 posted on 11/13/2013 9:54:53 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: 21twelve

Good, we can use more jobs down South.


8 posted on 11/13/2013 9:55:31 PM PST by Kent1957
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Boeing already has other plants in non-union states that are itching to expand and get this contract.


9 posted on 11/13/2013 9:55:41 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve

SOUTH CAROLINA HERE WE COME!!!!!


10 posted on 11/13/2013 10:00:33 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 21twelve

Seattle is booming. I counted 7 construction cranes looking at the Lake Union side of the city. Boeing would be better off in the South where they are appreciated.


11 posted on 11/13/2013 10:05:03 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: 21twelve

So what happens now? hope their skills include making Twinkies..


12 posted on 11/13/2013 10:06:04 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: USNBandit

““Full pay ‘til the last day” -Eastern Airlines labor slogan”

Eastern could have been a great airline too. But the unions tried to act like the UAW and play ‘hardball’.


13 posted on 11/13/2013 10:08:50 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: rainee

Another ?...article says they are the last holdout about pensions so this one baffoon union can sink all Boeing jobs?
Crazy greed, tons of Boeing jobs will be lost in that region.


14 posted on 11/13/2013 10:10:52 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: 21twelve
[Boeing already has other plants in non-union states that are itching to expand and get this contract.]

You can bet Obama has the National Labor Relations Board keeping a watchful eye on this.

15 posted on 11/13/2013 10:11:41 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: rainee

Not sure what happens now. It sounds like the unions figure Boeing will negotiate. But I’ve read too where some think that Boeing will start negotiations with other state’s to see what their options are (tax breaks, etc.) And I imagine WA state will try to make their offers better to the company and the unions.


16 posted on 11/13/2013 10:11:46 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Yep.


17 posted on 11/13/2013 10:13:13 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: 21twelve

If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. Mark 3:25 NIV. Of course the unions are not interested in unity, only control and money, the same as the feds. What a shocker.


18 posted on 11/13/2013 10:17:59 PM PST by Fungi
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To: rainee

Thought the same thing. These folks have just voted themselves out of a (pretty darned good) job, in the midst of what is very close to a Great Depression in many areas of the country. Maybe they think Obama is going to ride his Magical Flying Stallion into the plant and scatter Golden Fairy Dust to each and every employee.

Idjits.


19 posted on 11/13/2013 10:18:39 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: JennysCool; rainee

The average gross pay for Boeing Machinists last year was about $85,000.


20 posted on 11/13/2013 10:22:35 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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