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Boeing machinists reject contract Wednesday night
Kiro 7 News ^ | Nov. 12, 2013

Posted on 11/13/2013 9:45:45 PM PST by 21twelve

Excerpt: Boeing machinists (Washington State) rejected a contract Wednesday that would have exchanged worker concessions for years of secure jobs.

(Excerpt) Read more at isearch.avg.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: aerospace
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To: 21twelve

I remember right after the crash in 2008 when some union at Boeing went on strike. One of the big sticking points would be that they would start having to pay a $5 co-pay for doctors’ visits.


21 posted on 11/13/2013 10:24:48 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Eastern had lots of problems, not just the Unions. But the failure to accept a new reality by the unions is what eventually shut the airline.

It was worth far more in pieces, than as a going concern, in the end.


22 posted on 11/13/2013 10:25:36 PM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: 21twelve

If I’m Boeing, call their bluff & start packing down south..Inslee & his goons were obviously spooked enough to pass the tax breaks so unless they have more tax payer $ to bribe Boeing, ball is in their court.


23 posted on 11/13/2013 10:29:34 PM PST by rainee (Her)
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To: USNBandit
I don't remember that one, but I thought they did say they would last one day longer than the airline. Eastern Airlines, a belligerent, stupid union and bad management weren't a good combination. However, I believe all the major airlines from that time ended up in bankruptcy at least once.

(I say the union was stupid because there was no way they could replace the pay they were getting for the work they did.)

24 posted on 11/13/2013 10:37:42 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: 21twelve
"And I imagine WA state will try to make their offers better to the company and the unions."

The state already agreed to huge tax breaks for Boeing - I heard a figure of $1-2 BILLION, but I don't know how many years it would take to reach that figure. Still, a big tax cut for Boeing would be made up with a tax INCREASE somewhere else.
25 posted on 11/13/2013 11:05:05 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: 21twelve

If I were Boeing, I’d have a contingency plan all set to go to move production to other Boeing plants. I’d also make arrangements to transfer as much of its work out of Washington state to other states without these IAM pukes. Let the union strike — Boeing shuts down operations in the state and moves out completely. Screw Barry’s union thugs.


26 posted on 11/13/2013 11:15:41 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: Steve_Seattle

Well, the 777x deal going to Texas or South Carolina would ALSO mean a big loss in tax revenues that will be made up somewhere else.


27 posted on 11/13/2013 11:23:39 PM PST by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

In my mind I'm going to Carolina
Can't you see the sunshine,
     can't you just feel the moonshine?
Ain't it just like a friend of mine
      to hit me from behind?
Yes, I'm going to Carolina in my mind.

28 posted on 11/14/2013 12:14:08 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Even the ENGINEERS at Boeing are unionized (well, Boeing Aircraft anyway).

The last machinist’s strike at Boeing was 2006-2007 or so, and they were still feeling the effects YEARS later. .


29 posted on 11/14/2013 1:27:22 AM PST by Salgak (http://catalogoftehburningstoopid.blogspot.com 100% all-natural snark !)
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To: USNBandit
“Full pay ‘til the last day” -Eastern Airlines labor slogan

Interesting that they don't mention "work" in that slogan.

30 posted on 11/14/2013 1:43:11 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: JennysCool

The union members think that Boeing is bluffing. They do not know how hard Obamacare has hit the corporations. They do not know how expensive these pensions when are taken in the context of the economy.


31 posted on 11/14/2013 2:07:27 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: 21twelve

Move to South Carolina, Boeing.


32 posted on 11/14/2013 2:15:40 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: MasterGunner01

It is these same unions in Washington State that lined the pockets of the Washington State Democrats. It is these pension programs that the unions use as a slush fund for their donation money to Democrat politicians. The unions in Washington State pay people to man the phone banks, walk the precincts, make the political signs and all the things the typical grass root volunteers do for Republicans. These are the same people who put Zer0 into office; who are now suffering the consequences in their benefits package because of Obamacare.

If Boeing production goes the South Carolina, it is the Democrat ass kissing unions that have themselves to blame.


33 posted on 11/14/2013 2:21:56 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Rodamala

Funny. Use a communist to promote capitalism...

34 posted on 11/14/2013 2:47:51 AM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: jonrick46; All
The union members think that Boeing is bluffing. They do not know how hard Obamacare has hit the corporations. They do not know how expensive these pensions when are taken in the context of the economy.

Do your due-diligence on this. Former Boeing looked over employee Alan Mulally now Ford CEO is diligently working to totally remove the pension Liability from their balance sheet by funding aggressively and or Buy-Outs.

Boeing screwed up by not promoting Alan, Ford's gain, but it is times like this I bet they wish they had him back....

35 posted on 11/14/2013 2:59:21 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: 21twelve
Not sure what happens now. It sounds like the unions figure Boeing will negotiate. But I’ve read too where some think that Boeing will start negotiations with other state’s to see what their options are (tax breaks, etc.) And I imagine WA state will try to make their offers better to the company and the unions.

And Holder and Obama and Reid and Pelosi will be out front as the Feds bring suits/edicts that they cannot relocate because of the suffering it will cause - sometimes they think suffering is bad; other times it is the goal...

36 posted on 11/14/2013 4:31:29 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Rodamala
OMG, is that Steve Ballmer?!?

Here's a better image, at least the one I remember:


37 posted on 11/14/2013 4:42:10 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: 21twelve

They have torn down the renton plant where Boeing built the famous B-17,B29,B47,B52.No history left to keep them there.Time to move south Boeing.


38 posted on 11/14/2013 4:43:19 AM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 21twelve
good... now move the plant to a right to work state!!!

39 posted on 11/14/2013 4:45:30 AM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Greed is an element but timing is the key. The union must go for broke while Obama is president. If the union can not bully Boeing with the current contract negotiations, it will lose out until the next round.


40 posted on 11/14/2013 4:49:21 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Travon... Felony assault and battery hate crime)
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