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(Live Thread) Obama will allow insurance companies to extend current plans [Lie Thread]
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/14/2013 | Lisa Mascaro

Posted on 11/14/2013 8:49:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind

WASHINGTON - President Obama will allow insurance companies to continue offering individual health plans that do not meet the standards of the Affordable Care Act through next year, according to a Democratic source on Capitol Hill familiar with the plans.

The plan, which the president will announce Thursday morning, is intended to placate millions of consumers who have received cancellation notices from insurers in recent weeks. Obama had repeatedly promised that consumers would be able to keep plans that they liked.

The president was under intense pressure from Democrats on Capitol Hill to find a fix. House Democrats have increasingly threatened to support a Republican proposal due for a vote Friday. And Democratic senators have offered their own legislative fixes.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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1 posted on 11/14/2013 8:49:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

If some of these insurance CEOs do not speak up now about the dangers and failures of government intrusion, they are just as much of the problem as the socialist leaders.


2 posted on 11/14/2013 8:51:48 AM PST by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: SeekAndFind

All Hail Lord Hussein!


3 posted on 11/14/2013 8:52:21 AM PST by EEGator
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To: ilgipper

they haven’t spoken up so far, even after they’ve been dragged through the mud for the past 20 years.


4 posted on 11/14/2013 8:52:42 AM PST by newnhdad (Our new motto: USA, it was fun while it lasted.)
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To: SeekAndFind
None of these articles asks the ins. companies what they think of this.

Typical MSM -- just report the press release.

5 posted on 11/14/2013 8:52:49 AM PST by MUDDOG
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To: ilgipper

it’s only for 1 year...enough for the elections of 2014. Then they revert back to the same bullcrap of permanent cancellation. Once the Dums win the election, they wont give a rip.


6 posted on 11/14/2013 8:52:56 AM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: SeekAndFind

It sounds like what he’s really saying is, Ted Cruz had a great point!


7 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:03 AM PST by sappy (criminaldems)
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To: SeekAndFind
0bama will allow insurance companies to extend current plans which is to drop millions of people?
8 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:10 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I thought this was the LAW and could not be changed come hell or hi water....wait till next year after the elections... yeah that is the idea


9 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:13 AM PST by JoanneSD
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To: SeekAndFind

He will “allow it”? By whose permission will he do that? Another executive order?
No. Repeal and replace. Nothing less. Now.


10 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:27 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=aiGg8D4hFLc&vq=medium


11 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:29 AM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just like immigration policy... It’s too much work to enforce the law so we’ll ignore it.


12 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:35 AM PST by ken in texas
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To: SeekAndFind

I wonder if anyone on the left will be offended by the concept of the president “allowing” something to be sold...


13 posted on 11/14/2013 8:53:49 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Update: Another reminder from Team Klein that today’s “fix” is something that was already available:

Sarah Kliff
@sarahkliff
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Most insurers have the option to “early renew” policies in December 2013, to last through Nov. 2014 under current law.

10:37 AM - 14 Nov 2013

Insurers could have extended canceled plans for another year, but why would they? That would only complicate the new risk pool created by ObamaCare. Go figure that they need more revenue from the healthy to pay for preexisting conditions for the sick. The scapegoats are unhappy:

John Harwood
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More from insurance industry source on WH O-care fix: “This is a joke - doesn’t change anything but allow WH to blame insurance companies”

11:11 AM - 14 Nov 2013

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/11/14/open-thread-obama-to-make-statement-on-obamacare-at-1135-et/


14 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:00 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: SeekAndFind

BS “allow” .... Write it down & PASS THE LAW !


15 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:03 AM PST by mikrofon (Quaint Concept)
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To: SeekAndFind

That’s nice. But if it’s not profitable for them, they’re not going to do it. Socialism sucks. Repeal Obamacare and go back to free enterprise. Government is not the solution; it is the problem.


16 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:25 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

A shameless political ploy to get democrats through the 2014 elections. He thinks Americans are idiots.

He’s right about 53% of the time.


17 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:40 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Dictators are cool

Can’t wait until there is a right wing dictator in the WH, lots of things to dictate on


18 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:44 AM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Obama will allow ...”

Sounds like he’s our Supreme Dictator who can determne unilaterally what will and will not be allowed.

I pray the Republicans will not negotiate nor attempt to revive this “landmark legislation” foisted upon us by the fascist, totalitarian, narcissistic piece of garbage and his apparatchiks and sycophants desecrating the halls of our Constitutional Republic.


19 posted on 11/14/2013 8:54:51 AM PST by Westbrook ()Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They will somehow try to shift all the blame on insurance companies.. wait and see.


20 posted on 11/14/2013 8:55:21 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama will ALLOW....

makes me want to vomit


21 posted on 11/14/2013 8:56:10 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: MUDDOG

Some companies might engage and pursue this. Most will ask how it’d work, and worry about turning this around so quick. A figure on the numbers? That’s the real issue. Usually, you’d have two or three months to toss the numbers around and reach a conclusion over next year’s rates.

The problem I see...what if half the companies say “no”? Even if five percent say no....you’ve got a big mess.


22 posted on 11/14/2013 8:56:23 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: ilgipper

Exactly! What makes the Dems think the Insurance companies will do it? Just to be nice to their customers so that they can screw them over next year? Companies don’t typically like to dick over their customers twice. Especially for the same reason.

I’d take the hit now. For the larger companies, we’re probably not talking much money. Take the hit and the PR hit and let it go away. Be done with it.

If they give into this, they’ll be dealing with the PR mess for another year. Who wants that?

This is FUBAR


23 posted on 11/14/2013 8:56:52 AM PST by TangledUpInBlue (I have no home. I'm the wind.)
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To: ilgipper

They rolled over early on expecting to have financial benefit for their companies. I am like an elephant. I remember these cowards falling into line back in 2010.


24 posted on 11/14/2013 8:56:53 AM PST by Parmy
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To: tflabo

you are exactly right - now they will blame the “bad apple” insurance companies.


25 posted on 11/14/2013 8:56:56 AM PST by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Westbrook

“Sounds like he’s our Supreme Dictator who can determne unilaterally what will and will not be allowed.”

The Wizard of Oz will simply wave his Magic Wand, and make all this bad news go away.

And anyone that DARES to mention it from here on out will simply be a RACIST, or worse, an EVIL CHRISTIAN!

“You don’t want to be known as an EVIL CHRISTIAN, do you Mr. Sheeple?”- Mainstream Media


26 posted on 11/14/2013 8:57:00 AM PST by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: sappy

Perhaps nobama should pay Ted Cruz a finders fee for figuring a (temporary) way out of this mess.

Damn sure glad I don’t work for an insurance company right now.


27 posted on 11/14/2013 8:57:13 AM PST by upchuck (I can't stand people that don't know the difference between 'your' and 'you're.' Their so stupid...)
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To: EEGator

28 posted on 11/14/2013 8:57:15 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve already paid my premium which now includes : Maternity, Infertility, and pediatric dental. None of which I need.
My ‘baby’ is a 32y.o. pharmacist with kids of her own.
Damn you, Barack Hussein Obama.


29 posted on 11/14/2013 8:57:25 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: SeekAndFind
Obama will ALLOW...

"Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual" - MO

30 posted on 11/14/2013 8:57:26 AM PST by Errant
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To: MUDDOG
“None of these articles asks the ins. companies what they think of this.”

If I'm not mistaken I think 0, or more likely valerie, told the insurance companies not to criticize the ACA...or else. The same thug tactics he's been getting away with from the beginning.

31 posted on 11/14/2013 8:57:44 AM PST by Paulie
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To: JoanneSD

Really,How do they do that without breaking the law they just passed. It boggles the mind!!


32 posted on 11/14/2013 8:58:01 AM PST by refermech
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is this even Obama’s slightest prerogative? He is not a king, dammit.


33 posted on 11/14/2013 8:58:03 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: EEGator

Obama thinks he’s a friggin dictator. If changes in the law are needed it’s up to congress.


34 posted on 11/14/2013 8:58:10 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ok, what a dumbass, next year it starts all over again x10.


35 posted on 11/14/2013 8:58:17 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ilgipper

He screwed it up so he could fix it then brag about how HE did it.


36 posted on 11/14/2013 8:58:25 AM PST by pfflier
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To: tflabo

And the mean republicans...


37 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:00 AM PST by refermech
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To: SeekAndFind
It's like I said before...

Obama thinks that Article II is the only section of the Constitution.

-PJ

38 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:10 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind

the only branch that can’t or won’t legislate in this post-constitutional gov’t is the legislature.


39 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:26 AM PST by dadfly
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To: SeekAndFind

Allow or require? Why would the insurance companies reinstate the canceled plans? In fact, I’m not sure how they would do it.


40 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:28 AM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the 5 million who have already lost their plans?


41 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:39 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

He will allow it?

But its the law of the land, remember??


42 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:43 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind
HE CAN'T TELL INSURANCE COMPANIES WHAT TO DO!!!!!!

HAIL OBAMA...ALL POWERFUL!!!

THIS IS TYRANNY!!

43 posted on 11/14/2013 8:59:47 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

The flies are the perfect touch.


44 posted on 11/14/2013 9:00:26 AM PST by EEGator
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To: MUDDOG

The MSM is O’s rubber stamp


45 posted on 11/14/2013 9:00:37 AM PST by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: SeekAndFind

That is nice of him. We Have now officially became a Banana Republic. The next step is the abolition of Congress because since the people now have Obama as their king, Congress serves no useful purpose and the money allocated to it can now be applied the reducing the National Debt or toward supporting the people’s king in the manner he is used to.


46 posted on 11/14/2013 9:00:39 AM PST by sport
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To: Westbrook

So a President can now create, change, amend, ignore or provide his own exemptions from acts of Congress...

Congratulations America — You have installed your first dictator!


47 posted on 11/14/2013 9:00:40 AM PST by FerociousRabbit
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama, Criminal in Charge.
Change laws whenever he wants.
Ignore laws whenever he wants.


48 posted on 11/14/2013 9:00:46 AM PST by FreedomGuru (Time for torches and pitchforks.)
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To: SeekAndFind
You SEE? This PROVES The Dear Leader is most merciful! Thank you Dear Leader THANK YOU!


49 posted on 11/14/2013 9:00:51 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (What do we want? Time travel. When do we want it? It's irrelevant.)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

Congress passes a law and the President signs it into law.

The Great Dictator then pronounces the law delayed, modified, changed, and in general ignored.

None of the Republican leadership wonders whether this is a Presidential Power.

If it is, could he please delay my due date for my income taxes?


50 posted on 11/14/2013 9:01:24 AM PST by LachlanMinnesota
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