Skip to comments.(Live Thread) Obama will allow insurance companies to extend current plans [Lie Thread]
Posted on 11/14/2013 8:49:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Obama does not have the authority to do this as he did not have the authority to give some companies and unions exemptions. Those policies have been canceled. They no longer exist.
This is political Cover Your Ass. When the insurance companies do not renew the discontinued policies he will wage a political war of rhetoric against the Insurance Companies. Their game plan is, “its not my fault.”
That's what I figured -- months to do it.
In the meantime people's plans are expiring.
I agree, it would be a big administrative mess.
Obama is half an hour late for his press conference. He’s probably in the bathroom waiting for the Imodium to kick in...
Illegal for one year then everyone is screwed again after he re elects democrats.
Blame insurance companies. Thats exactly the purpose.
All these insurance companies have spent millions to conform. They can’t undo what Obama forced on them.
The US government is at war with its own people.
Makes my stomach retch.
Precisely my point. It’s quite maddening.
.... The Prez with a fez is almost a half hour late .... bet he is waiting for Rush to start his show in order to have it pre-empted.
So what happens if you insurance company offers you the chance to go back to your old plan, even if you have paid for the new plan?
Will they offer that option to people who have already enrolled and paid for the new plan, or will it be offered to those who have not?
This guy looks like he just got beaten...
He is not, nor has never been my choice. However he was and still is the choice of 47% of the voters and the Democrats are capable of stealing enough to make 51% when it gets that close.
Under what authority does the President (ANY President) have to simply “modify” laws which were passed by Congress? I mean, without having to go BACK to Congress to get these changes codified into an actual LAW?
I mean, as written, these insurance companies can NOT just make wholesale changes because a President said, “Okay, just do it!” They could be held liable, REGARDLESS of what the President said!
The first person who keeps his old plan, then has some medical condition which is NOT covered under the old plan, but WOULD BE covered under an Obamacare plan, has a very STRONG legal leg with which to beat the insurance company to death!
And when the insurance companies say, “The President said it was okay.” The courts are going to FORCE the insurance companies to pay and will probably award damages, because the LAW says they MUST comply!
If I was the insurance companies, I would say, “NO EFFING WAY are we going to operate on the word of a KNOWN LIAR!” Because it will be THEIR asses that pay, not The Won!
There are industry consultants though who have been speaking out.
“Cruz was right, we need to delay this for a year. Sorry about the shutdown.”
He should know that not even the Emperor can unring a bell.
Unbelievable, isn’t it.
President Obama will allow insurance companies to continue offering individual health plans....
From where does he get this power?
Ted Cruz was RIGHT.
And what gives him the legal authority to chang a law written by congress?
Oh, that’s right. He is our King, not President.
Insurance companies have done enough to drag themselves through the mud without anyone else doing it.
I was wondering that also. And in the case of our group plan the final paperwork hasn’t been signed so there are going to be employees who want to go back and those who don’t.
I wonder if this decree extends to groups plans or just individuals?
What happened to “It’s the law, deal with it?” How many modifications has Obama written into this law after it was passed?
Would someone explain how he can direct health insurance companies to reinstate plans that have already been cancelled? Is this another GM and Chrysler?
I hope for two things.
That the insurance companies lose their behinds in this deal because they jumped on the obumbler care band wagon only because they thought they would be on a gravy train at our expense.
The other thing I hope for, probably without any chance:
Is that congress will insist that the only way to get out of this mess is to repeal obumbler care and go at the problem from the standpoint of free choice and free enterprise, with a good dose of charity for those really in need.
Not likely, but the only right way.
Forever, not 1 year, not 2 years.
And eliminate the individual mandate which is illegal and unconstitutional. And eliminate the employer mandate which is illegal and unconstitutional.
What the h#&* is he rambling on about.
“He will allow it? By whose permission will he do that? Another executive order?”
Exactly!! FU Emperor Obama!
Did that FOOL just say, “Drag us back into a broken system”?
What the F*** is ObamaCare? a Functioning system?
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“President Obama will allow ...”
Huh? Under what authority can he “allow” anything?
A truly Machiavellian move. The King “allows”, but ins. Co’s can’t do it.
He is now blameless. Ins. Co’s are evil.
So, we must outlaw them & go to single payer.
Has 0Dictator now nationalized the health insurance companies??
Is he on drugs? I’m serious.
Shouldn’t this be called a Lie Thread?
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In otherwards they are being extended until right after the next years elections.
Prior to Obama, executive orders were limited to the management and administration of the various executive offices and departments. Since health insurance companies are not part of the executive branch (at least not yet), King Obamna has no authority to unilaterally dictate what insurance comapanies can and cannot due. The big question then is whether there is something in the Obamcare law that gives Obama legal authority to dictate this change in the law. Since no one has actually read the entire Obamacare Act and the resulting regulations, I'm not sure anyone can even answer this question with any degree of certainty. A regulatory change, however, would require many months to accomplish given the publication and public comment requirements.
Rush Limbaugh: “He has declared war against the insurance companies and made it impossible for them to do business. He reiterated the original lie. He is acting like a dictator. This pre-empts the Upton bill which serves as a potential trap for the Republicans. This is an absolute swampt and minefield.”
Filibustering with 8 minute answers.