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(Washington) State rebuts Obama plan to allow old health insurance policies
KOMO News ^ | November 14, 2013

Posted on 11/14/2013 12:48:56 PM PST by Zakeet

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To: F15Eagle
There may be people with pitchforks chasing after Democrats when this is all over.

When this is all over they will be hunting dims with dogs - open season with no bag limit.

51 posted on 11/14/2013 1:37:59 PM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: BunnySlippers

“Don’t the poor insurance companies have any say in Barry dictating what they are and are not going to do?”

That is the kicker - they don’t have to do anything he says.


52 posted on 11/14/2013 1:37:59 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: cuban leaf

I would love to be a fly on the wall with Obama and his advisers.


53 posted on 11/14/2013 1:38:01 PM PST by matt04
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To: PGR88

<....”Its a slow motion train-wreck. Every step Odumbo takes gets him further into the mire”....>

His agenda for single payer is working just fine.....when all is unsaid by congress, and Obama continues with his plan that this indeed fails....he and the Dims will say they tried but the Republicans and Insurance companies did them in leaving them with no other alternative but to go to single payer...


54 posted on 11/14/2013 1:38:09 PM PST by caww
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To: SVTCobra03

Nope...when this is all over the Dims will be hero’s for rescuing us from the Insurance Companies by taking us all under single payer.....all these fix’s will not work....and these scenes playing out in the news were well anticipated by this administration. In the end it will mean no skin off their noses at all.


56 posted on 11/14/2013 1:40:59 PM PST by caww
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To: Zakeet

Can i get off this broken ride now?


57 posted on 11/14/2013 1:49:25 PM PST by Leep (Obama Care has hit the fan)
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To: bigbob

This ruling that WA State residents will not be allowed to keep their insurance is not a rebuke of Obama, but statement of support.

WA State was way ahead of the feds on Obamacare. Gregoire shoved through the set up of the state exchanges and other regulations before the Supreme Court even ruled on the constitutionality of the law. She did it because the State Attorney General had signed onto the law suit against Obamacare without her permission.

What the insurance commissioner is saying is that with or without the feds, WA is going forward with the plans for socialized medicine.


58 posted on 11/14/2013 1:59:16 PM PST by Eva
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To: wbill
However, the fact that people are idiots doesn't mean that they need to be pushed into a single payer "State Knows Best" system. No winners there, you just take what you get and be thankful for it.

The low information voter predominate. They are easy to control and manipulate. I see this a threat to our Republic, Isn't it any wonder that the politicians think they can do whatever they want?

People get the government they deserve. Obama is the result.

59 posted on 11/14/2013 1:59:30 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar
Totally. Obama isn't the problem, he's just an opportunist.

The problem is an electorate who would vote for him. Twice.

60 posted on 11/14/2013 2:00:33 PM PST by wbill
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To: steve86
Well, I know three people (one guy and two women here in WA in a cancer fight who have lost their coverage. talk about the “war on women”. One business owner lost coverage for his employees.

And the idiots in the Boeing union voted 67% not to ratify their contract.

61 posted on 11/14/2013 2:08:09 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: PGR88

I think Americans are doing something by doing nothing. No one is signing up.


62 posted on 11/14/2013 2:12:50 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Zakeet

People, really, go to the article and read exactly why he won’t let people keep these policies. He’s a diehard lib who refuses to budge from the position that everyone whose policy was canceled will get a better deal on the exchanges. He wants to force them to get an Obamacare policy “for their own good” :)

With friends like these, Obama doesn’t need enemies!


63 posted on 11/14/2013 2:19:45 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Zakeet

Please to not overfeed animals. Tank you.


64 posted on 11/14/2013 2:31:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Zakeet

It is literally impossible to do what Obama suggested.

WTF is he doing?


65 posted on 11/14/2013 2:32:45 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: caww
"he and the Dims will say they tried but the Republicans and Insurance companies did them in leaving them with no other alternative but to go to single payer..."

After this debacle, who would be stupid enough to EVER trust "the government" about ANYTHING healthcare related.

I actually think this is exhibit A in why single payer would be even more of a bust.

The democrats would run as fast as they could away from it.

66 posted on 11/14/2013 2:44:19 PM PST by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
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To: Zakeet
Kreidler, a Democrat, says all of them can get better coverage on the new health care exchange.
67 posted on 11/14/2013 2:52:48 PM PST by fso301
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To: stubernx98

I do pray daily for people who have been caught in a real bad way in this. Hoping that some way can be found to continue treatment. I am not saying everything is peachy in WA, believe me, just a matter of relatively so compared to some other states.

Even if the insurance commissioner had allowed the “restart” to go ahead, there doesn’t seem to be any way realistically that insurance companies could reinstate policies in anything near that time frame. Plus their business models and risk pools would be screwed up beyond comprehension.


68 posted on 11/14/2013 2:57:27 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you Something wrong here wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Zakeet

So it is going to take congressional action to force this issue to happen! So the vote tomorrow in the House is important.


69 posted on 11/14/2013 3:08:54 PM PST by rawhide
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To: stubernx98

I’m in Washington state and it seems that our leftist government is set on doing anything that would be good for the public or for the economy.

And I am appalled at those dumb Boeing machinists not taking their contract deal.


70 posted on 11/14/2013 3:10:19 PM PST by angry elephant (Endangered species in Seattle)
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To: fso301

“Better coverage”

But is it better overall, considering the increase in premiums and higher deductibles, and paying extra for coverage you not need nor want.

NO!


71 posted on 11/14/2013 3:14:15 PM PST by rawhide
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To: carriage_hill

Yes, the mantra from dems up for re-election will be “we are working hard to get your old plans back, but the republicans are the party of NO”


72 posted on 11/14/2013 3:38:43 PM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: Red Badger

We all knew he picked Biden because old Joe is a moron. Insurance against impeachment.


73 posted on 11/14/2013 3:39:44 PM PST by esoxmagnum ( Some hide in bunkers when there is trouble, others run towards the trouble.)
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To: Zakeet; SkyDancer

Exodus from Washington!

Sort-of welcome back to America, Jane. What’s the reaction to this locally?


74 posted on 11/14/2013 3:40:28 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: Mr. K

I can just hear the obamabots now...
“But King Canute ordered the tides to stop!”

Actually the obamabots will be saying,
“Obama ordered the tides to stop and they would have
except for those nasty republicans stamping their
feet and making waves!”


75 posted on 11/14/2013 3:43:42 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: llevrok

Obama can’t simply decree outside the confines of legislation...he tried for a while... he really did....but it’s come home to roost. he wrote a law, it doesn’t work, and he wants to fix it sans ...congress...er...i mean, “ reality.”


76 posted on 11/14/2013 3:45:55 PM PST by Fernet Branca (i had a tagline but....)
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To: steve86

And most importantly, their two housewifey dem senators are NOT up for re-election in 2014, no?


77 posted on 11/14/2013 4:28:20 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: wastedyears

Lots of questions about this and that. So, how’re you doing??


78 posted on 11/14/2013 4:29:38 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: Logical me

As a national spokesman for the “National Assocation of Rocks”, I “represent” that remark comparing us to 2/3rds of the American people.

We are strong, solid, enduring. People build long-lasting things with us including homes, buildings, BBQ pits. The low-educated Americans burn down their homes when building a BBQ pit.

We are old but still here, unlike the temporary stupidity of too many Americans.

We are the weapon of a David against a Goliath. Even in Afghanistan and Vietnam, American soldiers used rocks against the enemy, successfully. Ever throw a Democrat against a commie or a jihadist? Would never hit the target. Besides, you saw how Obama threw a baseball. Embarrassing.

Rocks are beautiful works of nature. Democrat/liberal/marxists are “zombie works” of a demented American Left.

Finally, people collect rocks, not Democrats or the low-educated blindly obedient voters.

Please use another item to compare the 2/3rds of American fools that you are talking about. Perhaps Sea Slugs or fans of Alec Baldwin.


79 posted on 11/14/2013 4:39:47 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: fso301

And I’ll bet Bill Gates gets the best health coverage of all in the State of Washington! He could and probably has bought his own doctors, hospital room, etc., etc., and enough to buy a fully staffed modern hospital for just himself and his family.

However, the little guy now has to pay a hell of a lot more for that Best Coverage there, Mr. Kreidler.

Now for some, the choice is going to be pay the mortgage or pay for health coverage, but not both.

Thanks, democRATS!


80 posted on 11/14/2013 4:42:21 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: wbill

Third!


81 posted on 11/14/2013 4:43:20 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: SkyDancer

Can’t complain much, was accepted by Medicaid recently (I’m thankful but don’t like taking from the public trough) because jobs are scarce and I don’t have insurance. At least it means I’ll be able to start seeing doctors and be able to get my health to where it should be. I don’t mean to complain, but endocrine problems make me feel like an old man, and that’s no good when you’re only 28.

Other than that, finished Matt’s (Travis McGee) first book last night, and while I enjoyed it, the ending made me sad. He’s a good writer, and you could probably find his books around for a decent price, if you don’t mind points in the book that would make your blood boil. But if you’ve already read Unintended Consequences, then you’ve experienced something like it already.


82 posted on 11/14/2013 5:31:23 PM PST by wastedyears (The Ender's Game movie was a stupendous, colossal, galactic failure to me.)
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To: F15Eagle

‘scuse, me. this is waaaay more
than “shenanigans”.

i really get upset when anyone
minimalizes the damage these
people are doing...

kg/nancy


83 posted on 11/14/2013 5:35:52 PM PST by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: Marcella
That is the kicker - they don’t have to do anything he says.

The states and insurance companies won't/can't comply--then wallah! He now has someone to blame. That is what this all about.

84 posted on 11/14/2013 6:06:07 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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Support Free Republic.

85 posted on 11/14/2013 6:21:02 PM PST by RedMDer (Happy with this, America? Make your voices heard. 2014 is just around the corner. ~ Sarah Palin)
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To: Zakeet
Essentially they have to decide to either follow the current law or the illegal instructions of a community organizer.

Looks like they chose to follow the law.

86 posted on 11/14/2013 6:42:11 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: Fernet Branca
Obama can’t simply decree outside the confines of legislation..

I disagree. He can do any thing he wants for as long as he wants. And he has and will so continue. Until someone stops him. And I don't see any politician or judge with hair to do that so far.

87 posted on 11/14/2013 7:28:37 PM PST by llevrok (Obama 2008 : "If you vote for me, aaaaaa, you can keep your country")
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To: bigbob

88 posted on 11/14/2013 7:43:25 PM PST by devolve (- "He's (Obama) just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." - Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett)
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To: Zakeet
""I have empathy for these people, I certainly feel for them, but at the same time, people really have a chance right now to shop and compare various health plans and make some decisions that best fits themselves and their families in ways that could never do before," Kreidler said.

They can shop? Really?
89 posted on 11/14/2013 9:00:10 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: Williams
Oh you mean Obama was not an expert on all the nuances of what he is doing?

When Dear Leader Barack is in a Porta-Potty, he's pretty much the smartest guy in the room...

The stuff below him is smarter...

90 posted on 11/14/2013 9:24:19 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: PGR88
Trust me people care because this is directly effecting them and in real time not years later.
Most people either will personally lose their HC in the next year or have a loved one lost theirs and have to get on ACA for more money, less services.

People don't like losing their doctor either. The left is a big evil lie.

91 posted on 11/14/2013 9:39:59 PM PST by snarkytart
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To: Alas Babylon!

And I’ll bet Bill Gates gets the best health coverage of all in the State of Washington! He could and probably has bought his own doctors, hospital room, etc., etc., and enough to buy a fully staffed modern hospital for just himself and his family.

he pays CASH

92 posted on 11/14/2013 10:05:59 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: SpaceBar
Re: “And we all know cancellation is change.”

According to ObamaCare, a price increase is also “change.”

So, if your “restored” policy has gone up in price since you last paid, technically, the restored policy should be illegal.

Obama has exempted dozens of union health plans from the price rule.

93 posted on 11/14/2013 10:57:42 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: angry elephant

Re: “Those dumb Boeing machinists not taking their contract deal.”

It’s worse than that.

A lot of people in the state don’t realize that the Legislature is (was) in special session.

They just voted around $2 billion in tax breaks and technical education benefits for the aviation industry, most of it, obviously, going to Boeing.

The Union voted AFTER the tax breaks passed.

I’ll guess they keep voting “NO” until Boeing agrees to put most of its tax break into union paychecks.


95 posted on 11/15/2013 12:25:01 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: Yaelle
How many people will lose NOT JUST THEIR INSURANCE but THEIR LIVES over this “community planning?”

Remember, there are very sick people in treatment who might not be insured on January one, then what??

Yeah....and they have a LOT of angry relatives and friends.

Buy stock in companies making pitchforks, scythes, rope and tar.

96 posted on 11/15/2013 12:41:27 AM PST by spokeshave (Obamacare is planned, just like the planned famine by the Russians to eliminate the Ukrainians.)
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To: edwinland

Yes I did make it.

Use it however you see fit. I’m not a copyright kind of guy.


97 posted on 11/15/2013 4:06:54 AM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Zakeet


…nevermind

98 posted on 11/15/2013 4:55:14 AM PST by devolve (- "He's (Obama) just 'too talented' to do what 'ordinary people' do." - Iranian-born Valerie Jarrett)
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To: Zakeet

It is amazing how liberals pass legislation to try and stop the very natural consequences of their idiotic laws. They are perpetually attempting to trick the laws of economics.


99 posted on 11/15/2013 5:39:54 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: Zakeet; Nachum; 444Flyer

Just a reference for all of you. This is a list of R submitted amendments that the D’s rejected regarding the ACA.

http://rsc.scalise.house.gov/uploadedfiles/gop_amendments_submitted_to_hr_4872—8.31.10.pdf


100 posted on 11/15/2013 6:01:10 AM PST by HollyB
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