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Boeing may move 777X out of Washington state
Yahoo News ^ | 14 Nov 2013 | MIKE BAKER

Posted on 11/14/2013 3:53:09 PM PST by mandaladon

SEATTLE (AP) — Boeing's history in the Pacific Northwest dates back more than a century, when William Boeing purchased a Seattle shipyard that would become his first airplane factory. In recent years, however, those ties have been fraying, first with the company shifting its headquarters to Chicago, then with the development of a new production line in South Carolina. Now, the relationship between Boeing and Washington state is near the point of unraveling after a fiery debate among machinists this week led the workers to reject a long-term contract.

On Thursday, Boeing made good on its threats and said it is looking elsewhere to develop its popular new 777X airplane — and the company may take thousands of jobs along with it.

Boeing Co. spokesman Doug Alder declined to specify where the company is now looking, saying there is no short list and that there are many places both within Boeing's current operations and outside that are being explored.

"Everything is back on the table," he said.

Boeing has helped anchor western Washington state's economy for decades, but that relationship began to fray about 15 years ago. In 2001, the company moved its headquarters from Seattle to Chicago.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 777x; aerospace; boeing; boing; economy; manufacturing; obama; redstates; unions
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Unions and liberals doing what they do best.
1 posted on 11/14/2013 3:53:09 PM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

I figured they would try to move it to China.


2 posted on 11/14/2013 3:56:04 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: mandaladon
Boeing has helped anchor western Washington state's economy for decades, but that relationship began to fray about 15 years ago. In 2001, the company moved its headquarters from Seattle to Chicago.

Gee, why'd they go and do a thing like that?

Stupid media. Another day, another insult to my intelligence.

3 posted on 11/14/2013 3:58:28 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: mandaladon; SpinnerWebb

Boeing 777’s ... this year’s Hostess Twinkie.


4 posted on 11/14/2013 3:58:54 PM PST by tx_eggman (Liberalism is only possible in that moment when a man chooses Barabas over Christ.)
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To: mandaladon
the leftist governor just called a impromptu special session and our lovely state legislature obligingly voted in another big tax break for Boeing that will last until 2040......

no other companies stand a chance at that kind of special treatment...

5 posted on 11/14/2013 3:59:59 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: mandaladon

Dollars to doughnuts they won’t be moving to California...


6 posted on 11/14/2013 4:00:06 PM PST by JoeDetweiler
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To: mandaladon

Please pick Virginia!


7 posted on 11/14/2013 4:03:22 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: mandaladon

In Nashville, several years ago, the union at the Peterbuilt truck assembly plant went on strike for the second time in about 3 years. Peterbuilt decided that they could make due with the non-union plant in Texas and just shut down the Nashville plant and moved all of the production to Texas.


8 posted on 11/14/2013 4:03:28 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (From time to time the.tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.)
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To: mandaladon
i hope all the union scumbags lose their house, their car, everything they have with a loan on it... let them eat cake
9 posted on 11/14/2013 4:05:07 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
In Nashville, several years ago, the union at the Peterbuilt truck assembly plant went on strike for the second time in about 3 years. Peterbuilt decided that they could make due with the non-union plant in Texas and just shut down the Nashville plant and moved all of the production to Texas.

That's surprising, when you consider what a garden spot Nashville has turned into lately.

10 posted on 11/14/2013 4:05:56 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: mandaladon

Seattle features a prominent statue of Lenin.

It’s not meant with any kind of hipster irony.


11 posted on 11/14/2013 4:11:08 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: mandaladon

12 posted on 11/14/2013 4:11:47 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: mandaladon

Alabama has the work force the infrastructure and we are a right to work state that has a true conservative state government.


13 posted on 11/14/2013 4:13:46 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: mandaladon

I worked at Boeing for a couple years, non-union.

You know what? If I was a small, independent parts producer in the Seattle/Everett/Renton area, and I lost business or even went out of business because of the vote, I’d be lining up lawyers around the block to sue the pants off the union.

This WILL effect alot more people and families than the union thugs!


14 posted on 11/14/2013 4:20:48 PM PST by djf (Global warming is turning out to be a bunch of hot air!!)
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To: Steely Tom

expand....has Nashville really gone to the dogs?


15 posted on 11/14/2013 4:25:55 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: cherry

the other thing about the Boeing union workers is that because of “international” competition, they get extended unemployment and can travel anywhere to look for work and get paid for it....lots of goodies even when they’re out of work...


16 posted on 11/14/2013 4:29:13 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

George C. Marshall Space Flight Center provides a talent pool and customer base...


17 posted on 11/14/2013 4:29:49 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: cherry
expand....has Nashville really gone to the dogs?

More like it has gone to the illegals...

18 posted on 11/14/2013 4:36:46 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: mandaladon

Both Tennessee & Texas have no income tax. I wonder how many of the NON-UNION personnel will go with Boeing?


19 posted on 11/14/2013 4:37:10 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: null and void
Huntsville and Mobile would be good locations. But Boeing won't come here due to the shenanigans that happened to reverse the USAF decision to award the tanker contract to Airbus BAE to build them in Mobile.
20 posted on 11/14/2013 4:37:42 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Hmmmmmm, another labor pool to poach...


21 posted on 11/14/2013 4:43:02 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: mandaladon
" Unions and liberals doing what they do best. "

Jobageddon, destruction of jobs and the economy.
23 posted on 11/14/2013 4:53:37 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: null and void

Poaching? Not as much as you might at first guess-—nobody else really wants that old union slag. Why would I bring people into my company who are going to mostly whine about the old days when they had a union job? I’ve picked up hitchikers before who spent the whole trip explaining how great things were when they could get the bucks together to pay their union dues. I got zero sympathy for a bunch of people who think their asses are so golden they’d vote their own job right out of town.


24 posted on 11/14/2013 4:54:49 PM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: Steely Tom
I was there at the time that it happened. Boeing was part of the landscape of WA and the Democrats (Governor Locke) and the unions knew they could always turn on the tap and get the honey out of Boeing. It took a lot of abuse over a long time before this company moved it's headquarters to Chicago. Throw in the debacle with the South Carolina Plant with the dept of Labor using it's power strictly for the benefit of the unions. You knew it was a matter time when these union idiots would kill off any hope of retaining Boeing in WA state.

15 years ago +/- I watched a union member in Spokane bemoaning the fact that Alcoa was closing it's Spokane plant. He was telling the reported he had worked there for 18 years and the had gone on strike 3 times and now the plant was leaving. He would not understand the idiocy of his comments.

These Machinist have really solidified their pension and health care clear to the point they and future generations is WA will have nothing!

Oh wait, they will have Obama to take care of them.

25 posted on 11/14/2013 4:57:38 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country)
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To: cherry
Imagion how much less cost it would be for a airline to buy a Boeing aircraft if Boeing didn't have to pay for those Union goodies.
Imagaion how much more aircraft they could produce and sell if the costs were lower.
Imagion how much it would help the over all economy.... imagion if you try.
26 posted on 11/14/2013 4:57:41 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Conspiracy Guy
South Carolina has more room Boeing.
27 posted on 11/14/2013 4:59:03 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Steely Tom

Actually, it was stupid to move to Chicago, one of the worst taxed states and cities in the USA. They were considering Dallas,but I have a brother-in-law who worked at Boeing, and he said the CEO’s wife was into Arts and insisted they go to Chicago instead of Dallas. (don’t know how much of that is true). Boeing’s excuse was they wanted to be in the middle of the country between the East and West Coasts.


28 posted on 11/14/2013 5:00:47 PM PST by Aussiebabe
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To: dirtymac
15 years ago +/- I watched a union member in Spokane bemoaning the fact that Alcoa was closing it's Spokane plant. He was telling the reported he had worked there for 18 years and the had gone on strike 3 times and now the plant was leaving. He would not understand the idiocy of his comments.

It almost sounds like he thought his time on the picket line was some kind of investment in his future job security.

Come to think of it, he may actually have been told that by his union leadership, and been stupid enough to believe it.

29 posted on 11/14/2013 5:00:59 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: JPG

Roflmao!..............you beat me to it!


30 posted on 11/14/2013 5:01:56 PM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: null and void

No poaching. The Mercedes plant, Honda plant, Hyundai plant, and the BAE plant employees make a GOOD living and have GOOD benefits. They produce a GOOD product and the lines are expanding.


31 posted on 11/14/2013 5:10:52 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: cherokee1

As in Boeing poaching Airbus, should Boeing move to Mobile, Alabama.


32 posted on 11/14/2013 5:11:21 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Alabama has more room. But Alabama won’t get the Boeing plant. I hope its North Carolina.


33 posted on 11/14/2013 5:13:10 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Steely Tom

A WA Republican (one of the few) just said he wanted to introduce a right to work law. Governor (tax break for corp coronisim) Insley, said “no way”


34 posted on 11/14/2013 5:14:03 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: American Constitutionalist

ooooopps I meant South Carolina.


35 posted on 11/14/2013 5:14:28 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Hope this time around Boeing can justify it by saying that they tried to meet all their demands but where left with no choice but to move.
It's their new re-modernization program... i.e. building new plants, that is ? in new places.
36 posted on 11/14/2013 5:16:02 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: mandaladon
Hope Boeing also takes advantage of the new fracking oil boom and moves to a plave where producting their product and the energy that is takes to produce things is cheaper.
I guess they found out that all their investment in " GREEN ECONOMY " has not panned out.
Did the state of WA force them to go Green ?
37 posted on 11/14/2013 5:20:28 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: mandaladon
BUILD NEW PLANTS IN NEW PLACES BOEING !

It will help you in the long run, no union labor costs and save costs in new production plant techknowlegy.
38 posted on 11/14/2013 5:22:01 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Yes Sir’reee , they already have a base there now with their 787 plant.


39 posted on 11/14/2013 5:23:01 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

They need to do it. Tell the 0bama supporting union to kiss off. I do feel for those union members victimized by the union. They need to go to their union with torches and pitchforks and give them the what for.


40 posted on 11/14/2013 5:26:49 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: mandaladon




Ha, Ha?
41 posted on 11/14/2013 5:29:09 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: JPG
It looks like the Boeing Union workers got Hosted..... Boeing gone Hostal...
What the sheeple don't realize is ? what the low information voter don't realize is ?
They think that Unions are good and that is what has been preached to them for generations of that commie propaganda.
What they don't realize is that their union dues, their union monies go towards anti-American agendas, anti-family agendas, the homo agenda, the DNC, all kinds of nefarious things.
42 posted on 11/14/2013 5:31:08 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: Cen-Tejas
BOEING UNION WORKERS GOT HOSTED.

BOEING GONE HOSTAL ! .....
The unions, they reap what they have sown....
No pity for union thugs and all things nefarious as far as it concerns unions.
43 posted on 11/14/2013 5:33:41 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

As long as they get out of WA, I’m cool.


44 posted on 11/14/2013 5:39:02 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (On the evening of 10/16/13, the ailing republican party breathed its last breath.)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Hey Boeing!

There is Lotsa room in Texas!

:D


45 posted on 11/14/2013 5:41:14 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

And cheap energy.


46 posted on 11/14/2013 5:53:06 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: mandaladon
BOEING GONE HOSTAL !
47 posted on 11/14/2013 5:54:52 PM PST by American Constitutionalist
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To: American Constitutionalist

No state income tax, yeeeehasame

I moved to texas from california ...in texas natural gas is about the same (figure some extra for a colder winter ) but electric is more on account of summer AC.
Water cost can be offset by using rain barrels....
In my city, if you use your house water supply to water your yard they assume it all goes down the sewer and there is a sewage charge.... they peg the sewer charge equal to the water usage . So if I use rain barrels to water the garden, there is no meter to measure and thus no matching charge for sewage. :D


48 posted on 11/14/2013 6:30:44 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: WildHighlander57

yeeeehasame

Should be

Yeeeehaw!

(Doggone smartphone filled in the wrong word)


49 posted on 11/14/2013 6:31:50 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: ridesthemiles

Washington has no state income tax either....


50 posted on 11/14/2013 8:43:24 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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