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Obama claims ‘enforcement discretion’ to make Obamacare changes
Washington Times ^ | November 14, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/14/2013 4:56:12 PM PST by george76

Obama said Thursday that what’s good for illegal immigrants is also good for people who are losing their health insurance because of Obamacare, saying he’ll use prosecutorial discretion to let companies continue to offer health plans that violate his law.

It’s the latest example of the White House trying to work around Congress and instead take action on its own, and in this case it comes as Mr. Obama seeks to stop a wholesale abandonment of his health law by Democrats who have watched the rocky rollout.

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That immigration policy, known by its acronym of DACA, has proved controversial as well. Under it, Mr. Obama has determined that young illegal immigrants shouldn’t be deported, even though the law calls for that.

A federal judge in Texas ruled that the administration had exceeded its power in telling immigration agents not to arrest or deport those young illegal immigrants.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: amnesty; benghazi; daca; doma; fastfurious; illegal; illegalimmigrants; illegals; immigrants; immigration; obamacare
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1 posted on 11/14/2013 4:56:12 PM PST by george76
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To: george76

This has to be satire.


2 posted on 11/14/2013 4:57:46 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: george76

Lawsuits by the weekend...


3 posted on 11/14/2013 5:00:32 PM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: george76

Rule of Law no more.


4 posted on 11/14/2013 5:00:47 PM PST by La Lydia
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To: Steely Tom

A company that fails to comply with that law is still violating the law ?


5 posted on 11/14/2013 5:01:28 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


6 posted on 11/14/2013 5:01:42 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: george76

Sorta like a RETRO Line Item veto...


7 posted on 11/14/2013 5:02:01 PM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Mad Dawgg
Sorta like a RETRO Line Item veto...

Can you imagine the reaction if a Republican president came out with anything like this.

I can just picture Chuck Schumer on the Sunday talk shows, with a grave expression on his face, intoning something like this: "under our Constitutional form of government, the President doesn't get to decide which laws to enforce and which laws to ignore. One would think that a President who claims to have been a Constitutional Law Professor would know that."

But when a Democrat is in the White House, it's more like "hey, that's cool."

8 posted on 11/14/2013 5:06:03 PM PST by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

Judge Dredd - I AM THE LAW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itmNiTwHOsM


9 posted on 11/14/2013 5:08:13 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

REPEAL OBAMASCAM NOW!


10 posted on 11/14/2013 5:10:05 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Millions are losing their healthcare thanks to ObamaScam! What a country!!!)
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To: La Lydia

if republicans aren’t going to correct this and neither will the military it falls onto us.


11 posted on 11/14/2013 5:15:37 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Steely Tom
This has to be satire.

My first thought too but afraid not.

12 posted on 11/14/2013 5:16:21 PM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: george76

Everything he gets away with is setting another precident. That’s why he should have been impeached back in 2008 when he decided certain laws he didn’t like would not be enforced.


13 posted on 11/14/2013 5:18:19 PM PST by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

IMPEACH the Kenyan organizer


14 posted on 11/14/2013 5:19:08 PM PST by bkaycee (John 3:16)
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To: george76
Under Clinton, the line was -- "Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Pretty cool."

Under Obama, the line is -- "We do what we want. You can't stop us."

15 posted on 11/14/2013 5:22:28 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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To: george76

I can’t remember, did the President swear to faithfully execute or faithfully exploit the laws?


16 posted on 11/14/2013 5:25:21 PM PST by Red Dog #1
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To: george76

One downside of enforcement discretion or prosecutorial discretion is that it can disappear as quickly as it appears.

The US President is charged with faithfully executing the laws of the nation, ALL of them.

However, the a$$clown that occupies the office right now sees himself as a monarch, a dictator, and he’s given to enforcing only those laws that serve his goal of forcing America into a communist society, with himself at the top.
Laws are mere devices for his use, as he sees fit, or to discard as he wishes.

He cannot leave a minute too soon, IMO.


17 posted on 11/14/2013 5:38:15 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: george76

Arbitrary enforcement = KENYA.

“he law is WHAT I SAY IT IS”

what’s Magna Carta...?


18 posted on 11/14/2013 5:44:27 PM PST by gaijin
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To: george76

Ask yourself this. Congress stood by and let him get away with Fast & Furious, Benghazi the killing of 20 Seals, Doma, and Amnesty,

Does anyone really think they will buck him on this?

Who will take him on?

Nobody.


19 posted on 11/14/2013 5:48:33 PM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: Nachum; All

Three quick points:

1.) Tyrant Obama cannot legally change the Obamacare Bill that he signed into Law.

Only the US Congress can legally change the Law, which then can be signed by Obama.

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2.) The MANDATORY dictate in Obamacare is the only factor that is essential to that Federal Law.

Take out the MANDATORY dictate in Obamacare, and only the Federally subsidized, or chronically unhealthy will buy it.

For example:

“What would be the incentive for increased consumer demand for policy purchase of a NON-MANDATORY Obama Socialized Health Insurance Tax (OSHIT) instead of purchasing a policy from a private insurance company?”

_________________

3.) Will the House RINOs think of either of the above two points? I seriously doubt it.


20 posted on 11/14/2013 5:49:52 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: george76
What is decreed must be obeyed.
21 posted on 11/14/2013 5:52:45 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: george76

Since its all Laws are now Discretionary, I will be implementing Tax payment Discretion.

At least King George admitted he wasn’t giving us representation.


22 posted on 11/14/2013 6:05:04 PM PST by R0CK3T
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To: george76

Who will be the American Cromwell?

The King has turned on the people.


23 posted on 11/14/2013 6:52:18 PM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: george76
“The ‘fix’ amounts to new legislation — but enacted without Congress,” Mr. Kontorovich argued. “The president has no constitutional authority to rewrite statutes, especially in ways that impose new obligations on people, and that is what the fix seems to entail.”

So how many of us are going are going to call our Representatives tomorrow to ask them what they plan on doing about this?
24 posted on 11/14/2013 6:54:04 PM PST by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: bigbob

...otherwise, we’re officially a Banana Republic.


25 posted on 11/14/2013 7:04:28 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: george76

his recreational drug use is really starting to tell on him


26 posted on 11/14/2013 7:31:54 PM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: All

How many times is this POS going to break the law and walk???
Impeachment is not enough, he needs to be locked up for a long time.


27 posted on 11/14/2013 7:41:52 PM PST by thegrump (It is who we are. It is what we do. Live for nothing or die for something !)
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To: george76

High crimes and misdemeanors???

I guess as soon as those impeachment articles for Eric Holder are ever filed...Like they said they would do today, yesterday...

We might get to see this house of cards fall...

Not holding my breath...


28 posted on 11/14/2013 7:54:14 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Venturer
Who will take him on? Nobody.

Have to VEHEMENTLY disagree. He's gone a bridge too far. He's done something that affects the Low Information Voter.

It's curtains.

29 posted on 11/14/2013 8:07:02 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: george76

There is no stinkin’ way this guy EVER even attended a class on constituional law let alone taught it.


30 posted on 11/14/2013 8:10:00 PM PST by rey
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To: george76

What he’s doing is unConstitutional.

Aw forget it, no one’s listening (or cares) :( .


31 posted on 11/14/2013 8:12:16 PM PST by Tzimisce
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To: La Lydia

>> Rule of Law no more.

Enforcement of Law no more, or actually skewed.


32 posted on 11/14/2013 8:14:06 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: JennysCool
"Who will take him on? Nobody."

Have to VEHEMENTLY disagree. He's gone a bridge too far. He's done something that affects the Low Information Voter. It's curtains.

I've been making the same point for weeks. Many of the egregious things Obama's done up to this point, were targeted to hurt only certain segments of the population that defied him, or who got in the way of his agenda.

Not this. This hurts Americans across the boards - including those who've so fervently believed in him the whole way through. It's why he's suddenly trying to stave off the worst of the pain through Imperial Edict. He and his cronies are already feeling the backlash from 'their people'.

And it's only just begun.

33 posted on 11/14/2013 8:15:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: rey
There is no stinkin’ way this guy EVER even attended a class on constituional law let alone taught it.

That's been obvious from his early days in the White House. What he knows of the Constitution, he learned at the knees of radical Marxist professors who despise the Constitution and our founding.

He knows that stuff like the back of his hand, but can't explain with any authority how our form of government works under its root document. It shows in everything he does.

34 posted on 11/14/2013 8:19:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: george76
saying he’ll use prosecutorial discretion to let companies continue to offer
health plans that violate his law.

Once you join the Mafia, there's no leaving the Mafia. The GOV can lie
and do this all they want. Blackmail.

35 posted on 11/14/2013 8:20:49 PM PST by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
REPEAL OBAMASCAM NOW!

ping

36 posted on 11/14/2013 8:22:04 PM PST by alrea (weÂ’re running on ObamaCare next year)
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To: george76

I was wondering how Obama could wave his magic dictator’s wand and “allow” insurance companies to offer non-compliant policies. He’s telling them: “Don’t worry, it’s OK to issue illegal policies because I promise my administration won’t prosecute you.” In other words, Obama can’t make the policies legal, so he’s encouraging the insurance companies to break the law.


37 posted on 11/14/2013 8:25:04 PM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Steely Tom

Impeach


38 posted on 11/14/2013 9:46:08 PM PST by WilliamRobert (Rafael Cruz is an American hero, and he makes me proud to be Texan.)
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To: catnipman

There might be three or four ‘maverick’ insurance companies out there...willing to just take the President’s vouch that all-is-OK. But most insurance companies are filled with lawyers in the top level of management, and they look at the threat of lawsuits on a continual basis.

If the law says “X”, and someone says they invented a waiver, but it’s not part of written law, then some idiot can drag you into court and pursue a case against your company for a marginal health insurance policy.

I’d take a guess and say thousands of lawyers are now reviewing this possibility, and just waiting for 1 January to roll around.

So, I’m going to take this humble guess. In two weeks, several insurance companies announce after reviewing the mess...they won’t offer old-style policies in 2014. It’s too risky.

Then, all heck will break loose in early December as Congress must now get into the mess. If they could write 2,000 pages of crap, never read it or comprehend it....then they’d go and repeat the entire exercise again.

A bigger mess? I think between the budget crisis....yet to unfold in December, and this massive game to be played out....it’ll be an exciting month for intrigue and dimwittedness.


39 posted on 11/14/2013 10:58:36 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: rey

I viewed an exam of “Professor” Obama when he was “teaching”. One of the exam questions was about the rights of a gay couple in adopting a baby.

Not much about the constitution, all about agitating.


40 posted on 11/14/2013 11:07:21 PM PST by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Steely Tom

It isn’t.


41 posted on 11/14/2013 11:40:20 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: Windflier
Imperial Edicts worked for a while in England in the 1600s, and then some kings got a lot shorter real fast with the swing of the axe for doing what Obama is doing now.

By bypassing congress, Obama’s “I am the Law” BS is just that. It only exists in his head. He has no authority to do what he is trying to do and bypass Congress.

Autocratically cherry-picking which pieces of the law will not be enforced is simply illegal.

42 posted on 11/15/2013 1:43:42 AM PST by Gabrial (The nightmare will continue as long as the nightmare is in the Whitehouse.)
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To: george76

Can we subjects claim “abidance discretion” to 0bamacare?


43 posted on 11/15/2013 1:48:20 AM PST by windsorknot (>>>)
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To: george76

And Dubya said he couldn’t open up ANWR for drilling in 2002, despite a 90% approval rating, a Patriot Act which permitted environmental waivers for ‘national security’, and a Senate which refused to even vote on it.


44 posted on 11/15/2013 3:01:55 AM PST by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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To: JennysCool

The low information voters are signing up for free Medicare, but I hope you are right.

We shall see, so far the republicans are mute.


45 posted on 11/15/2013 3:28:23 AM PST by Venturer (Keep Obama and you aint seen nothing yet.)
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To: george76

So then the rule of law is irrelevant.

It’s enforcement that rules the day.

Who needs Congress or the Presidential pen??


46 posted on 11/15/2013 4:12:42 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: catnipman; xzins
In other words, Obama can’t make the policies legal, so he’s encouraging the insurance companies to break the law.

As an attorney who has represented insurance companies for over 25 years, I can assure you that none of them are going to issue policies that do not comply with the letter of the law.

This promise by Obama is just another lie intended to shift the blame from him onto the evil insurance companies (who will ignore his dictatorial edict)

Obamacare must be repealed and Obama must be impeached.

47 posted on 11/15/2013 6:06:11 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: george76

Enforcement discretion is when a cop ignores a jaywalker.


48 posted on 11/15/2013 6:16:14 AM PST by AU72
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To: george76
It's just what I thought. He is slow dissolving his program to where the GOP can't get credit for killing it and it protects the Rats for the next election. The GOP House needs to pass a repeal immediately but add something like a guaranteed committee to look at the health care industry to solve some problems.
49 posted on 11/15/2013 6:40:36 AM PST by tobyhill
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To: Steely Tom

Don’t count on it.


50 posted on 11/15/2013 7:06:46 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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