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Obama claims ‘enforcement discretion’ to make Obamacare changes
Washington Times ^ | November 14, 2013 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/14/2013 4:56:12 PM PST by george76

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To: P-Marlowe; catnipman

Can Obama justify selective enforcement of laws based on Scutus’ terrible decision last year in the Arizona vs Fed where they said the state can’t tell the fed how to enforce laws?


51 posted on 11/15/2013 7:35:21 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Gabrial
Imperial Edicts worked for a while in England in the 1600s, and then some kings got a lot shorter real fast with the swing of the axe for doing what Obama is doing now.

Good point.

There have been times in human history when people have deposed their rulers over fundamental breaches of the solemn trust that keeps them in power.

A people can endure a great deal of suffering and want, as long as they believe their rulers care about them and their country. When a ruler proves through word and deed that he holds the people and the nation in contempt, look out. The people will withdraw their allegiance from him and look for ways to bring him down.

52 posted on 11/15/2013 7:36:30 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: xzins

There’s no power like arbitrary power.
That’s where REAL power lies.


53 posted on 11/15/2013 7:37:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB; P-Marlowe

That was a horrendous decision by Scotus last year. Scalia dissented and basically said that states have interests, constitutional interests, and are authorized to deal with those. It is only rational.


54 posted on 11/15/2013 7:40:17 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Dogbert41

That’s why all Democrat Congressmen and Senators are complicit, as they’ve uniformly endorsed the “You Republicans may impeach, but it’ll be futile, as our Senate majority will never convict and remove.” In that biased partisanship, they (figuratively, OF COURSE!) “ALL HANG TOGETHER!”

HF


55 posted on 11/15/2013 8:08:16 AM PST by holden (Alter or abolish it yet?)
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To: Steely Tom

I wish this was satire. Now we will have a constitutional crisiis , but Obama powns SCOTUS. Good bye America!


56 posted on 11/15/2013 8:34:24 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: JPG

Oh! Look!

It’s the STINKX!!!

Great likeness they made there!!!


57 posted on 11/15/2013 9:02:26 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: xzins
We are dealing with a federal government that has completely come off the rails. Basically the congress and the Supreme Court, by failing to hold back the Laviathan of unconstitutional anarchy, have created a dictatorship in which Obama tells America what the law is and which parts will be enforced and which parts will be ignored.

I am not sure we can put the train back on the rails short of a Civil War. We are no longer living in the land of the free and the home of the brave. We are slaves to our dictator who is being empowered by 500 or so cowards in Congress and on the Supreme Court.

It has gotten to the point where I can no longer watch the news or listen to talk radio without getting sick to my stomach.

I don't see an end to this. I can only see that we may be witnessing the beginning of God's judgement on this Nation. We have systematically murdered more babies since 1973 than all the people killed in all the world during WWII. We now have mainstream churches embracing homosexual marriage and abortion on demand. How can we avoid His judgment?

Without a huge spiritual revival and a return to our Godly roots, we cannot survive as a democratic Republic. Our only Hope is in Christ.

58 posted on 11/15/2013 9:03:23 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

Selective enforcement is simply an end-run for the dictatorially minded “president.” That is essentially what SCOTUS told Obama was fine and dandy in last year’s Arizona ruling. I don’t see a way for him to set aside the 2016 elections yet, so I think we’ll be rid of him in 3 years.

However, we’ll keep killing babies, we’ll keep sexually abusing our children, and we’ll keep enslaving our poor and middle class.

That is the ancient Egypt from which God extracted his people. Egypt NEVER recovered from that.

Revolution? They’re too busy watching comedy central.

Depression? It’s coming. Hardship is coming.


59 posted on 11/15/2013 9:23:12 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Depression? It’s coming. Hardship is coming.

Lets all party like it's 1929.

60 posted on 11/15/2013 9:55:00 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

The stock market did the same in 1929, and I’ve read recently for the same reason, because interest rates were being kept low.


61 posted on 11/15/2013 9:57:40 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe

Do you know what strikes me more than anything? It’s that most folks don’t have a clue. They’re fat, dumb, and happy.


62 posted on 11/15/2013 10:37:28 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Red Dog #1
I can’t remember, did the President swear to faithfully execute or faithfully exploit the laws?

You'd have to ask John Roberts. Oh, I forgot, he's been compromised also...

63 posted on 11/15/2013 10:40:16 AM PST by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: george76

EVERYTHING “President” Muhammad Al-Obama DOES is illegal.


64 posted on 11/15/2013 10:46:34 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Venturer

Certainly NOT the MSM, our ‘watchdog of the public interest’!!


65 posted on 11/15/2013 12:52:04 PM PST by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: Secret Agent Man

obama “granted” all kinds of waivers. Nobody called him on it. obama extended the employer mandate. Nobody called him on it. At the press conference not one reporter asked him how he has authority to tell the insurance companies it’s okay to break the law. Initially, only Howard Dean, of all people, “wondered” if obama has the authority.

And that’s why obama’s team came up with this plan to blame the insurance companies. I wouldn’t bet that it won’t work.


66 posted on 11/15/2013 3:38:10 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: george76

This is going to be weird. The law explicitly states that the plans must meet the standards after 31 December of this year, but it is the regulation whichndefinesmthe standards. If he waives the standards he has the authority...but he doesn’t have the authority to waive the law. If he waives the regulation...or temporarily reverts it...then anyone should be able to apply for any plan that the respective states allow.


67 posted on 11/15/2013 4:57:46 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: george76
Andrew McCarthy has an excellent essay on this at National Review Online.

Two main points.....

First, it is still against the law for insurers to write policies that do not conform to ObamaCare.

Only Congress can change the law, not the president.

Thus, policy owners will have a hundred different ways to sue insurance companies.

Thus, no rational insurer will write a policy that deviates from ObamaCare law.

Second, Obama has grotesquely twisted the meaning of “prosecutorial discretion.”

It is, in fact, a common sense authority granted to the president so that finite resources may be allocated to the most important crimes.

For instance, if there is a sudden increase in heroin use, the president can order the DEA to divert agents away from marijuana crimes and reassign them to heroin cases.

Bottom line.....

Obama is just trying to push responsibility for this political disaster onto insurers, who will not write old policies without a new law.

Then, Obama will ask Congress to rewrite the law, and when Republicans refuse, he and the MSM will try to blame Republicans for blocking his completely bogus solution.

68 posted on 11/17/2013 12:07:25 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: george76

Well, you’re damned if you do and you’re damned if you don’t, or if you do after you don’t, or if you don’t after you do, or something like that.


69 posted on 11/17/2013 12:30:42 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: P-Marlowe
After the insurers refuse to write illegal policies, there is one more shoe to drop.

Obama will ask Congress to write a waiver into ObamaCare.

When Republicans refuse, Obama will blame the GOP for his catastrophe.

70 posted on 11/17/2013 1:04:30 AM PST by zeestephen
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